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    MN MN - Amy Pagnac, 13, Osseo, 5 Aug 1989

    There's nothing on here about the missing case or the murder. It was in the seventies. It was solved and there was a conviction. His family went through so much, including mishandling of some of his remains, which also made the news. I have been vague on purpose. His parents are deceased, but...
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    MN MN - Amy Pagnac, 13, Osseo, 5 Aug 1989

    There is an answer. It will be found by seeking and following facts.
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    MN MN - Amy Pagnac, 13, Osseo, 5 Aug 1989

    About the question of whether or not this casts a pall of incompetence over the entire Maple Grove police department, as suggested by another commenter, I think it is a mistake to discredit all Maple Grove PD investigators and the department as a whole because the dispatcher sent MM home from...
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    MN MN - Amy Pagnac, 13, Osseo, 5 Aug 1989

    I recommend reading through from the beginning. Amy's sister was on here for a little while too, and had useful stuff to say that was pretty much ignored as well.
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    MN MN - Amy Pagnac, 13, Osseo, 5 Aug 1989

    First and most important, I am sorry for what your daughter and you and your family went through that. That sounds horrible, and I am glad you went all the way for your daughter and were able to help her. All my best wishes for healing and a happy future. I know you will all carry it forever. My...
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    MN MN - Amy Pagnac, 13, Osseo, 5 Aug 1989

    Thanks for the apology, but it's not really the point. I wasn't harmed by you making that assumption. The case, however, could be harmed by the prevailing attitude here that the solution to this case is a foregone conclusion. Especially when anyone who pushes back on bad information and a...
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    MN MN - Amy Pagnac, 13, Osseo, 5 Aug 1989

    Oh yeah, this article from 2001 temporarily slipped my mind. I saw an entry in my notes and had to go looking for where I got the info. It places him in Minneapolis/St. Paul area in March of 2001: https://www.ketv.com/article/kidnapper-sentenced-to-life-in-prison/7588164 "Zappa, 31, a native...
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    MN MN - Amy Pagnac, 13, Osseo, 5 Aug 1989

    That one has given me some headaches, for sure. Trying to untangle the names is one barrier. He's muddied the waters, since both names are apparently "legal" one given at birth and one a different name on a marriage certificate. He apparently sued in court to be able to have all documents...
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    MN MN - Amy Pagnac, 13, Osseo, 5 Aug 1989

    I also don't remember seeing any references to gun shots being responded to by MGPD in the police blotter in the newspaper that serves Osseo and Maple Grove. Editions checked were for six months on either side of her August 5th disappearance date. Throughout that time, there were many, many...
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    MN MN - Amy Pagnac, 13, Osseo, 5 Aug 1989

    Hi. Yes and No. It's unlikely that any links for the article that even existed are still valid, or that it can even be found online. The New Hope Plymouth Post published it on August 15th. These newspapers get bought and sold so often, it might be hard to find out who even "owns" this anymore.
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    MN MN - Amy Pagnac, 13, Osseo, 5 Aug 1989

    As has been covered in the past on this thread, There is a witness whose information was given to police that told a PI he saw them leave the farm. The police have the information on that witness. They haven't shared what they did to follow up or what they learned. I assume to protect the...
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    MN MN - Amy Pagnac, 13, Osseo, 5 Aug 1989

    Well, I got verified, for all the good it did. Not a family member. Not a family friend, not personal emotion. Just popping in from time to time to see if anyone has said or done something useful, try to correct a bit of misinformation, and then go back to working on it on my own. Anyone who...
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    MN MN - Amy Pagnac, 13, Osseo, 5 Aug 1989

    On further reflection, was that a police report you signed, or was that your witness statement?
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    MN MN - Amy Pagnac, 13, Osseo, 5 Aug 1989

    It hasn't been "handwaved lightly. For instance, the article that was cited from didn't say that it was 65 calls "down the years" It said that it had been 65 calls in the past 30 years. As another commentor pointed out, that at the time of the article, that count included 25 years AFTER Amy...
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    MN MN - Amy Pagnac, 13, Osseo, 5 Aug 1989

    Can't find the post now, but I seem to remember making that exact same point back in 2014. and "grabbing" doesn't necessarily have to be a high-profile noticeable event. It could be luring or even going with someone a person knows, or getting in a car to visit with someone you know and the...

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