04/22/2013 - waiting for rebuttal to continue

[Ms.Heather]

Oh my. Not another psychologist! Who cares if she has BPD or PTSD? She is a confessed murderer. She slaughtered him. And this should be denied. The state and defense could bring I one expert after another until Christmas!

Exactly, I mean come on... We have to draw the line somewhere. They had their chance to put on their case, it should be done. So what, another week of a D witness on the stand, talking about his CV and 30 years experience?
I mean really, who is this guy? Has he ever examined the defendant? This is too much.

 

[gwenabob]

She planned for that question...she said the evil ninja looked at her Auto Registration which she had in her purse :banghead:

So ridiculous. You mean the evil ninja waited for her to find her purse, rifle through it trying to find the registration for a car she wasn't even driving. All that time wasted and she couldn't make a break for it? Sounds like a Monty Python skit. The two of them standing there looking through her purse while Jodi Ann tries to find proof of where she lives to show the evil ninja. While Travis is on the floor dying. Then the evil ninja gives her a wink and makes her promise to never breathe a word of it, cross her heart, hope to die, stick a needle in her eye. Riiiiight.

 

[ILikeToBendPages]

Passion

Main Entry: anger
Part of Speech: noun
Definition: state of being mad, annoyed
Synonyms: acrimony, animosity, annoyance, antagonism, blow up, cat fit, chagrin, choler, conniption, dander, disapprobation, displeasure, distemper, enmity, exasperation, fury, gall, hatred, hissy fit, huff, ill humor, ill temper, impatience, indignation, infuriation, irascibility, ire, irritability, irritation, mad, miff, outrage, passion, peevishness, petulance, pique, rage, rankling, resentment, slow burn, soreness, stew, storm, tantrum, temper, tiff, umbrage, vexation, violence


USLegal » Legal Definitions Home » H » Heat of Passion Law & Legal Definition
Heat of Passion Law & Legal Definition

Heat of passion is a criminal defendant's excuse for lacking the premeditation element of a crime due to sudden anger or heartbreak. The defense is usually raised in murder or attempted murder cases, when a spouse or lover finds his/her partner sexually involved with another and shoots or stabs one or both of the coupled pair. To successfully raise the defense, the defendant must have acted immediately after the provocation, without time to "cool off". If the element of premediation is eliminated, the charges may be lessened from provable homicide to manslaughter with no death penalty and limited prison terms. The impassioned defendant may even be acquitted.

 

[Arabian Girl]

That would be sweet.. especially as this witness never interviewed ANYONE.

Who the heck IS this guy and exactly what can he say about anything ??????????

:banghead::jail::facepalm::banghead::jail::facepalm:

 

[Kimster]

PLEASE NOTE:

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Also, watch for our verified professionals. They can help clear things up much of the time. And if you are a verified professional and it doesn't read that under your name, please let one of the admins know and we'll fix it for you.

No more snark. If I see any more, there will be stunning involved. :notgood:

Also, if you are going to talk about the sexual aspects of the testimony, keep it on the trial and don't embellish the information. If you do, it's an automatic time out. We've warned you guys about that one for weeks now.

A reminder to those who weren't here earlier today. :yes:

 

[Bernina]

33, except during the last week of July due to the Gila Monster roundup.

They used one up on the day of the "Emu Races":floorlaugh:

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

I'm aghast at what I am reading here about the DT's latest attempts to keep this trial going ad infinitum. I have been concerned over the past couple of weeks that jurors are going to get fed up and will ask to be let go.

I can't believe that the DT can claim "heat of passion" and ask for the jury to consider manslaughter when it's patently obvious that Jodi premeditated this cold-blooded murder. Manslaughter would likely mean that JA would qualify for time served and would walk away a free woman at the conclusion of the trial. Jodi would revenge on anyone whom she feels has ever wronged her, and she would surely go after Travis' family, friends, Juan Martinez, witnesses for the Prosecution, etc. Scary to even think about it. :moo:

 

[EquallyDivided]

The passion of the victim not even being allowed to shower in peace without a fully dressed intruder coming in to start, continue and end a passionate verbal dispute or continue a physical one in which only the dead guy gets wounded.
:drumroll: Wow!!

So was JA lying on the stand before or has her fog lifted??? Makes me wonder if whatever mental illness JA has isn't contagious and JW and KN have become infected with it.
It was the trial that never ends
It just goes on and on my friends
Somebody started it without knowing what it was
And now they keep on trying it forever just because
It was the trial that never ends..........................

Kill me now. :banghead:

I love Lambchop! So many people have no clue about that little song, which I've sang repeatedly during this trial!

 

[gauntlet]

Poor hWild
Knee scooter = life saver. Hwild is making some progress.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BIec_o5CAAIqgB7.jpg:large

@EvielleA i have a removable boot instead of a cast. Its gray, they were out of salmon.

@azmatthews i ripped the basket off imediately!

@psw9259 oh hyeah.. cant hwait to look like a dingus and hwheel on in. Alison will be in court hwith me tomorrow. Should be an epic day.

@foxone1 put knee on it and push with my good leg.

 

[Nezumi]

I think this is a BAD idea from the defense. I don't think this jury can take another few weeks of testimony from a psychologist...think about it we have been watching it just like they have. The defense team is actively engaged in this every day, so they can't see the kind of effect it has on people who have to sit there and listen to it every day for weeks on end (I'm talking specifically about these psychologist/therapist testimonies). Anyway, fine let them make the mistake, hopefully they will hurt their case even more.

I don't think it will be lost on that the jury that this is version number four.

 

[usnuzuloose]

I thought that if they want surrebuttal that would mean Juan is bringing in new evidence. Do we even know what the new evidence is?

 

[Litigatrix]

I don't understand how they can bring another doctor into this case. Dr. DeMarte's report was available before the trial, with her diagnosis, the DT had ample time to put on a witness who disagreed with her opinion. In fact, they did...Samuels and ALV.

Perhaps Arizona is different, but in most jurisdictions it is "reversible error" for the Judge to disallow surrebuttal testimony on new matters raised by the Prosecution in many circumstances. That means that the jury verdict could later be overturned by a higher court.

Given the Judge's abundance of caution this entire trial, it is likely that they will be allowed to present at least limited surrebuttal testimony. Surrebuttal is limited solely to evidence presented during the rebuttal case and is not an opportunity for the defense to re-try their defense...but given the amount of leeway that they have been given to re-tread old ground over and over again, I can imagine that this case is likely to continue for several more weeks.

Which is ridiculous not just because this case has gone on long enough, but because it is an egregious waste of the jurors time.

 

[cricket49]

:furious: OMG . . . NO !

:waitasec: So this would be story #4 ... no one buying the "abuse story" so now they are desperately trying for "heat of passion" ?

Jodi and DT need to give it up ...

:moo:

Next we will get the insanity defense. :hills:

 

[GoAskAllie]

To me that says they know their defense of Self-Defense sucks and has been shot down, and they've been reading here for ideas. Posters here have said it would've been more plausible to claim heat of passion. Still won't fly! There was no fight with Travis, I don't think he was posing in the shower- he looks terrified upon seeing her there, and I think she was holding a gun on him while she shot the photos.:twocents::moo:
Plus the premeditation and the overkill will knock Crime of Passion out.

I disagree with your take on Travis and the shower photos, but completely agree that the DT knows the self defense/DV claim is bogus and the jurors don't buy it. As horrible as it would be for the Alexander family to have the crime scene photos/autopsy pictures shown again in court, I can't imagine Mr. Martinez won't use them in his closing. The jury needs to be reminded of what Jodi did to Travis. No self defense. No crime of passion. Cold-blooded murder.

 

[Southern_Meadow]

Wait. Hold the phone. This new psychologist the DT wants to testify has never evaluated or even spoken with Jodi?

 

[InALandFarFarAway]

IIRC she sent him a text after she killed him asking when he was going to cash it.... What a sweetheart.

She asked Det. Flores about the check, too.

That gurl clanks when she walks. Honest to God.

 

[kaRN]

A couple of years ago in Vegas two guys who didn't know each other got into words, one punched the other and the one punch killed the other guy.

I believe that would qualify as "manslaughter by sudden quarrel"

I can see that.
Who gets into a sudden quarrel in the shower unless both parties are in there fighting over the shower head or first dibs at shampoo though.
One good thing about this crazy new development is that JA can never accuse her DT of being ineffective or not giving her all shots at a good defense.

 

[Nhic]

I'm aghast at what I am reading here about the DT's latest attempts to keep this trial going ad infinitum. I have been concerned over the past couple of weeks that jurors are going to get fed up and will ask to be let go.

There's method to the DT's madness. The longer they can draw out this trial, the likelier it will be that jurors will drop off, resulting in a mistrial. It couldn't get a mistrial any other way and now the DT is desperate.

JSS must deny this request!

 

[kaydono]

I love Lambchop! So many people have no clue about that little song, which I've sang repeatedly during this trial!

Lambchop as in Shari Lewis, Hush Puppy,and Charlie Horse? Awww I remember my daughter watching that show. Takes me back in time.

 

[kaRN]

I thought that if they want surrebuttal that would mean Juan is bringing in new evidence. Do we even know what the new evidence is?

I don't know for sure but am guessing the diagnosis of BPD is new evidence