04/22/2013 - waiting for rebuttal to continue

[Jane Jetson]

It is offensive to me that the defense has made a mockery of the justive system and the bashing of Travis.

The will stop at nothing they seem to have no couth, morals or values.
Of course all JMO.

We have lost sight of justice for Travis and turned this into a circus, half of what has went on should not have been allowed again JMO.

Between the defense and their witnesses it is upsetting to me what justice has become.

Your sig pic is hilarious and amazing!

 

[Nhic]

How many times can a DT change it's theory of its case in Arizona?

 

[neesaki]

it may be just me but i think they have put their big feet in their mouths with this,she says it was self defense because she was in fear for her life,so how can that be an in the heat of the moment crime of passion?

of course i don't believe the self defense but it just doesn't look legit to me.

they know the jig is up and the jury are going for first degree premeditated murder so they are grasping at straws sticking everything in to it

Right, self defense and heat of passion are two different mind sets, imo. Which one is it, I don't believe it can be both. So it's just multiple choice now for JA, just pick which version you want to believe. Gawd, she's such a parasite. Neither are acceptable in my book.:furious:

 

[dog.gone.cute]

asking for heat of passion to be included in jury instructions

:furious: OMG . . . NO !

:waitasec: So this would be story #4 ... no one buying the "abuse story" so now they are desperately trying for "heat of passion" ?

Jodi and DT need to give it up ...

:moo:

 

[SweetT]

How can the defense now be saying "Heat of passion" When Jodi was never even Jealous? I thought she killed in self defense? Am I missing something?

 

[InALandFarFarAway]

...>snip< she will not be in anyone's thought processes ...>snip<

To Jodi, that's a fate worse than death.

 

[Sleuth5]

No, no, no..I can't deal with another two weeks of Wilmott questioning another psychologist. 1 day Juan cross, then another week of Wilmott re-direct or whatever it's called. 1/2 day juror questions and Juan responding, then another 3 days Wilmott going over the juror questions. Let's say 1-2 days Jodi migraine somewhere in there. That's a whole month right there, folks.

I'll be fortunate enough to miss most of it, probably. At least I am going to plan to try to miss the direct and re-direct of the "surrebtuual", because I really can't take another Wilmott-induced coma.

 

[Nezumi]

No doubt a friend of Alyce's.

Bingo.

http://www.alycelaviolette.com/Publications-By-Alyce-LaViolette.htm

FOR OUR CHILDREN by Jane Shatz and Alyce LaViolette
DOMESTIC VIOLENCE OFFENDERS (editors Bob Geffner and Alan Rosenbaum) chapter "Batterers' Intervention: A View From the Trenches" by Alyce LaViolette

 

[kaRN]

If the State proved pre-meditation which I believe they have, we have nothing to fear. The jurors aren't morons. They remember opening statements and the DT case in chief. If this expert Dr Geffner had so much to say, he should have said it then.
Crime of passion? FOG that. JMO

 

[gauntlet]

ACK----I KNEW it. I posted this previously, that I believed they were abandoning their self defense case and going for manslaughter due to her emotionally snapping. I knew they were setting this up.

This has me very worried.

What's worrying you? Surely WHEN JM finishes presenting his rebuttal case, he'll have premed all tied up into one big guilty box.

 

[AZWatcher]

Thanks, Karmady!!

Another "Expert" ... Just shoot me.

Can they just throw in crime of passion like a freakin' hail mary in jury instructions? It flies in the face of the defendant's claim of self-defense... right?

Aw geez.

 

[hilldeccaside]

Bringing this from the other thread:
Quote:
Originally Posted by SunnyinMO
If anyone can go get them I will gladly pay for them....paypal is a wonderful thing!!
I'm going to try and get them today in about 1/2 hour. No need to pay so long as y'all are willing to take my word on what they say

Karmady you are the BOMB!!!:yourock:

What are you going to get? I am confused!

 

[kaydono]

This is infuriating. It's obvious what's going on, the defense sees things aren't going their way so are now trying to regroup with this "surrebuttal". I've never even heard of such a thing and can't believe it's happening, all because this DT didn't have their s*** together in the beginning and obviously didn't know what they were doing. They really are trying to wear down and outlive the jury, imo. I cannot see how this would be allowed at this stage of the game. :banghead:

They would subpeona Santa Clause, the Pope, Mother Theresa, the Easter Bunny, and the The Tooth Fairy if it helped in their delay tactic methods.

 

[LinasK]

Just heard on HLN that Defense is asking for Jury Instructions to include lesser charge of MANSLAUGHTER - HEAT OF PASSION !!! Don't think so! I know the Judge will allow it though, she ALWAYS gives in to the whatever the Defense wants.

To me that says they know their defense of Self-Defense sucks and has been shot down, and they've been reading here for ideas. Posters here have said it would've been more plausible to claim heat of passion. Still won't fly! There was no fight with Travis, I don't think he was posing in the shower- he looks terrified upon seeing her there, and I think she was holding a gun on him while she shot the photos.:twocents::moo:
Plus the premeditation and the overkill will knock Crime of Passion out.

 

[TexMex]

Why are they even bringing up any psychological, mental conditions? Isn't that all to be done during mitigation after she is found guilty?

Yes...they can discuss it at punishment.

Hope the Hon. Judge Sherry denies this. They should have put him on in their CIC

 

[AngelWings444]

Dr. Robert Geffner - in his own words.

"Interpersonal Violence"
Dr Geffner PhD - cochair of NPEIV speaks at Stop Abuse Campaign briefing - YouTube

"Family Violence, Child Abuse and the Brain"
"Family Violence, Child Abuse, & the Brain - Robert Geffner - 4/12/07 - YouTube

 

[DebinGA]

Remember, she killed him three times. Heart (vena cava) *sp. Head (bullet) throat (need I say more?)

So thats three heat of passions, right?

Me thinks I need to go back to bed :facepalm:

And those two deep stabs into the back of his head hard enough to break off bone chips.

 

[chijojo]

What the he!! does "Manslaughter by Sudden Quarrel" mean?

I had to kill him because he quarreled with me???

 

[Southern_Meadow]

I don't quite understand the defense asking for this Manslaughter -- Heat of Passion charge. I thought they argued this was self defense.... heat of passion is not self defense.

Anywho.... Monica Lindstrom doesn't think JSS will allow the surrebuttal case.

 

[snowshuze]

Good Golly Miss Molly. My hopes lie with Judge Stephens putting her judicial foot down and telling the defense NO MORE ! What in the world would be considered new evidence that Juan Martinez introduced from Dr Demarte?