08-18-2009 - Nancy Grace

[Donjeta]

Hmm...I wonder if the mobile home park and the closest convenience store have video surveillance. I recall in the S.Cantu case the MH park had a surveillance camera. You would think the owners would have one knowing how many RSO they rented to. Maybe that is some of what LE has? Just a though to add to all the above as well.

I don't know. I don't remember anything in the news about surveillance footage. It would tell a lot if there were strange vehicles not belonging to the neighbors or someone out at an odd time, or if there was no one. I suppose PCSO might have held on to the knowledge like they've held on other things but I think we'd have heard if there was a suspect stranger caught on surveillance cameras.

 

[elle1919]

If there was surveillance footage of the MH....we would know all the answers wouldn't we?

 

[atherella]

I am very interested in what makes LE think Misty was out of the home that evening? Sure sounds like that is what they are implying, and they sound fairly certain. However, I want to know WHY they think that.

If they had ANY credible evidence she was out of the house, why hasn't she been arrested - child endangerment, or something. Instead, LE is basically "begging" the public for information on Misty's whereabouts on the evening HaLeigh disappeared. The PCSO did NOT ask for information related to HaLeigh's disappearance in this press release, only MISTY's whereabouts. Are they grasping at straws? It's six months later - come on!

 

[elle1919]

I found their plea intriguing as well. We can't know the how's and why's. I am also of the opinion that if they had something along the lines of cell pings or witness statements then they would not be asking the public to come forward. I hope and pray they are not grasping for straws. I would rather believe that they have some physical evidence like they say they do.

 

[Donjeta]

To get her for child endangerment, they would have to show that Misty left the children alone wouldn't they? Maybe it's not sure if Misty was somewhere alone or with the kids or there might have been one of the grannies or someone else at the MH?

Jr. is a problem here though. If he was awake he'd been able to tell.

I just read the NG transcript. Her attitude seems to have changed a lot. She doesn't make any excuses for inconsistencies any more and even points out shortcomings like they smoke in front of children.

 

[snookie]

No, the LE have had to let them know, and they have via media, that this is someone really close, no stranger- Misty is not being truthful, they have even said they think Misty knows what happened to Haleigh- and this just doesn't phase them? Its not a sex offender, there was no picked lock like Ron said- Misty became a bride 30 days later after this mess- this child with a 7th grade education pulled the wool over the Cummings eyes, they just set aside the fact Haleigh went missing and welcomed her into the family, because she was just so good for Ronald?

I think not.

And its nice TN called in TES, it really is, but I believe that was to take the heat off of Ron beating up his brother in law and the rat- now with this information, they cant do anymore damage control-

jmo

Excellent post!

In the beginning, I followed this case intensely, but in the absence of any new information and just speculation, I put it on the back burner.

But............MC has bothered me from the beginning. Her changing stories, her phony tears, her evasiveness just doesn't add up to innocence. I feel she's either covering up for someone or she herself is guilty.

One of the things that's bothered me is one of MC's statements that NG played again tonight. Although I can't quote it exactly, in one of her early statements MC states she was like a mother to these children - that they looked at her as their mother - and she claimed she was good to those kids.

In the course of sleuthing this case, we learned that RC has a former girlfriend and fathered a child with her.......a child who's still an infant. MC posted on a webpage on MySpace and viciously attacked this former girlfriend. If I remember correctly, MC made comments about this former girlfriend being an unfit mother and threatened to take her child away........something along these lines.

MC was 17 when Hayleigh disappeared and she had lived with RC for less than 6 months. In this time, she seems to have moved in and taken over both of RC's children, and also has accused a former girlfriend of RC of being unfit.

I find this behavior scary..........taking over other women's children and promoting herself as a "better mother." This coming from a teenager who's been a part of the children's lives for just a matter of months.

You have summed it up perfectly, imo.

I am beginning to think that the real reason Ron married Misty is to keep control over her so that she can not tell what she knows. If Ron was not involved in his daughter's disappearance and he thought she had something to do with it or was negligent, I think he would have tried to kill Misty.

That would also explain why he was willing to fight her family to keep her. If she is no longer controlled by him, she will tell. She is the weakest link.

Regards,

Montana

Thank you!

<<What if Misty went out and left the door unlocked?>>

Then she lied.

1. she said she was home all night
2. she said the back door was locked

IF she lied to protect herself and somebody took Haleigh, then she is saying she is more important than Haleigh. What innocent person would lie and not let a child be found? .....that is diabolical if not evil

I agree.... thoughtless, selfish, and EVIL.

 

[snookie]

I am sure LE told them not too. Just like they told the families not to speak to each other.

The Cummings appear to be a very tight knit family. I think it's very unrealistic to believe that they have not discussed all of this at length. Regardless of what LE has or has not instructed them to do.

It's been 6 months, last time they said anything they said they had no one that saw her out that night and apparently there is still no one that saw her out that night.

I must respectfully disagree.

Just because no one has come forward does not mean that no such person exists.

 

[atherella]

To get her for child endangerment, they would have to show that Misty left the children alone wouldn't they? Maybe it's not sure if Misty was somewhere alone or with the kids or there might have been one of the grannies or someone else at the MH?

Jr. is a problem here though. If he was awake he'd been able to tell.


I just read the NG transcript. Her attitude seems to have changed a lot. She doesn't make any excuses for inconsistencies any more and even points out shortcomings like they smoke in front of children.

BBM

Since you were reading the transcript and couldn't see the video, that was Misty and one of her sister-in-law that were smoking in front of Misty's niece. I have the worst time trying to keep Chelsea and Lindsy apart. It was the thin dark haired one in the video, which, IIRC, is the one that live(d) in Crescent City. I *think* that is Chelsea.

I have to think IF Misty left the house, it would have been after the children fell asleep. However, I just do not believe that LE have ANY evidence. If they did, they would not be begging the public for proof of her being gone. That doesn't make any sense, IMO. If they already had "physical evidence" she was out, why would they need a witness to place her there?

 

[Skully]

BBM

Since you were reading the transcript and couldn't see the video, that was Misty and one of her sister-in-law that were smoking in front of Misty's niece. I have the worst time trying to keep Chelsea and Lindsy apart. It was the thin dark haired one in the video, which, IIRC, is the one that live(d) in Crescent City. I *think* that is Chelsea.

I have to think IF Misty left the house, it would have been after the children fell asleep. However, I just do not believe that LE have ANY evidence. If they did, they would not be begging the public for proof of her being gone. That doesn't make any sense, IMO. If they already had "physical evidence" she was out, why would they need a witness to place her there?

I think that if they can find someone who saw her out, tell them where that was, they may be able to find Haleigh.

 

[atherella]

I think that if they can find someone who saw her out, tell them where that was, they may be able to find Haleigh.

Do you think Misty did something to HaLeigh?

Or do you think Misty was out and while she was out, someone came in and took HaLeigh?

 

[Shaymus at The Rock]

Maybe they don't have witnesses but they said there was physical evidence that contradicted her story. What kind of evidence could place her somewhere else? Cell pings? Security cam pictures of her or her vehicle? What else?

Did LE say she wasn't home ? What if the physical evidence is someone in the mh other than those on Misty's guest list (AC man, brother and nephews). What if the evidence was left by someone on the couch and LE has the DNA but no one to match it to ?

 

[Busylady]

IMO if they have evidence Misty wasnt home she would of already been arrested for child endangerment. I don't buy the we don't want to arrest her for a lesser charge we are waiting for her to break - well 6 months later she hasnt broken, maybe just maybe she doesnt have the answers.

 

[PorcineGranny]

I could be mistaken, but I thought when this all happened that folks came forth and said she was not at home on that night. Who was the initial person who told that?

 

[Whisperer]

Tommy?

 

[Whisperer]

At this point I have to question Chelsea's story about the van and the damage. She may know or may not know alot but to not know who had her van in the middle of the night is bull and trying to confuse or muddy the case. Ever since I read the court docs that she was with Misty and helped with the charges against ..#@#...my radar has gone way up. They appear to be very friendly.

 

[Busylady]

LE has stated no one has come forth to say she was not home that night. You can search the threads the article with LE's statement has been posted many times. It all started as a rumor and was discussed in the rumor thread then it grew legs of its own and just keeps going and going like the energizer bunny.

I could be mistaken, but I thought when this all happened that folks came forth and said she was not at home on that night. Who was the initial person who told that?

 

[illinoismom]

I am beginning to think that the real reason Ron married Misty is to keep control over her so that she can not tell what she knows. If Ron was not involved in his daughter's disappearance and he thought she had something to do with it or was negligent, I think he would have tried to kill Misty.

That would also explain why he was willing to fight her family to keep her. If she is no longer controlled by him, she will tell. She is the weakest link.

Regards,

Montana

I am also one who strayed from this case when there was no updates or information coming from LE.

IIRC, didnt RC make the comment about keeping your friends close and your enemies closer when he was talking to someone after their wedding?

Also, was there a life insurance policy on HC?

TIA...trying to catch up....

 

[cajun]

Hmm...I wonder if the mobile home park and the closest convenience store have video surveillance. I recall in the S.Cantu case the MH park had a surveillance camera. You would think the owners would have one knowing how many RSO they rented to. Maybe that is some of what LE has? Just a though to add to all the above as well.

It's not a mobile home park, it's just a community. People own their individual parcels of land.

 

[Animal04216]

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