100 questions from the jury: Arias answering on her 16th day on the stand #75

[Softail]

I don't understand why he objected. He should have let her talk and hang herself even more.

I completely agree. How can she have memory of emotions while stabbing him but not stabbing him? :waitasec: It clearly told me she does remember, she just chooses not to.

 

[Nali87]

Actually, I don't this is evidence of anything like that. If I'm remembering correctly, Jodi Arias was the one who first invoked the "12 year old school girl" imagery in one of her texts to TA. Paraphrasing "you make me feel like a dirty little 12 year old school girl." I'm not a aficionado by any means but my understanding is that it's a fairly common fantasy in that realm. Engaging in that fantasy isn't confirmation that someone is a pedophile. Pedophilia is the condition in which a persons primary sexual attraction is toward *actual* children. Not grown women dressed up in plaid skirts, pigtails and knee highs.

Anyone got the texts?

 

[Ms.Heather]

Do normal healthy people have fantasies about children, though? I think not.

I believe that Jodi is guilty of murder. But I also believe that we shouldn't dismiss that as "just talk".

But thats what this was, "just talk". Where is the evidence that points to anything other than it being "just talk".

Not to be too detailed, but I once got a wax done and my H told me I looked like a 10 year old girl. Does that mean he's a pedo too?

 

[Davia18]

imo he wasn't literally referring to a 12 year old girl,more of "innocent/virgin having their first orgasm" but that is just the way it came out.

there is no solid evidence he was infact a paedophile,where are the photos, testimony (from his victims) video etc etc?

99.99% of what jodi say is complete BS

yes travis liked sex and he shouldn't have but that does not give her the right to murder him and then murder him a 4th time on the stand!

IMO and in my expeirence Travis was no pedophile as I have dealt with one 1st hand. There is nothing creepy about Travis other than JA. I was also a 18 year victim of domestic violence and again IMO Travis was not abusive. Jodi is not someone who has been abused, Jodi is someone who was treated so kind and had so much done for her, that is was a fairy tale come true with one major twist Travis was not that into her, but still a good enough guy that he would do little things for her such as the cinabon incident, this is not the action of an abuser. This is all Jodi making lies and IMO if anyone believes her trash has not followed all of this case JMO

 

[Sustained]

There is evidence in that sex tape audio.

And yes, supporting a victim is important.

But turning a blind eye to things that may be important to the case is dangerous

BBM -

Yep, sure is ... what's really important is the length of time that elapsed before Arias brought this to anyone's attention. And from what I understand, the fable went from child on the computer to a pic of a little boy in underwear ... did the investigators find evidence of either in Travis' home ? Maybe Ms. LaViolette can testify truthfully about what Arias told her in version #23454 on this fable.

Grasping at straws ...

 

[grammieto5]

Good morning everyone I wish the jury would ask JA since she is having trouble remembering her lies, why doesn't she just tell the truth. The truth never changes, the truth will be the same in 2013 as it was 2008.

 

[Candy_Pickletoes]

OK people, I think we have our guilty person. It is very clear. Everyone knows it. I think we are on the verge of making this into a grand spectacle. What is it about bloody murders that draws so much attention? Would we be here if she ran over him with a car? I don't think so.

I don't believe we'd be here had she simply told her 'self defense' story to begin with. I believe it was her outright lies that drew national attention. Before this trial started, you could have said Jodi Arias to me and I would have said "Who?"

It's obvious we have our guilty person, she has admitted to killing him. We aren't making this a spectacle, she made this into a spectacle, IMO.

And, IMO, had she hit him with a car and then lied the way she did, over and over again, I believe we would still be here. The bloodiness of the crime has nothing to do with it. Caylee Anthony didn't bleed, to my knowledge, and her case had even more attention.

 

[nursebeeme]

I just want to preface what I'm about to write by saying that I do not intend to blame the victim.

Travis Alexander did not deserve to die, but he was recorded on audio saying that 12-year old girls arouse him. And it's pretty clear that he was, with all due respect, kind of a creep towards women.

I just feel like the coverage of this case is so black in white, painting Travis as a saint and Jodi as the devil itself.

To be clear: I believe that Jodi Arias should be locked up forever and have the key thrown away. Travis Alexander did not deserve to die, he did not deserve to be stalked. She mutilated him. I find it incredibly hard to believe that she killed him in self-defense.

But I do believe that Jodi is telling the truth about his pedophilia and abuse, based on the evidence. Just because he was also attracted to full-grown women does not make him less of a pedophile. The victim was obviously not some kind of angel or saint. Can we stop portraying him as one? It is demeaning to abuse victims everywhere to minimize the danger of pedophilia.

Is there any room for someone with my opinion on this forum? Everyone is baying for blood >>
:twocents:

bold and big by me: yes your opinion is welcome.

 

[Wake_me]

Do normal healthy people have fantasies about children, though? I think not.

I believe that Jodi is guilty of murder. But I also believe that we shouldn't dismiss that as "just talk".

Why the need to forge letters attributed to TA where the writer admits his attraction to children?

I think the fact that no other individual other than JA that I am aware of has come out since his death to claim he was abusive, temperamental, showed any odd behaviour around children etc doesn't necessarily mean he wasn't, but it certainly lends credence to the notion that these are lies from a proven liar who has her life on the line.

 

[LadyEdith]

Good morning everybody!

A jury question asked yesterday really got me thinking. The question was in regards to the grandparent's stolen gun. Was it ever recovered? Jodi answered that it had not been recovered, almost like an after thought.

The gun is very important. It proves Jodi premeditated this murder or Travis owned a gun and that gun was used to kill him.

Why aren't there searches being done by Jodi's family and people hired by the defense to go to the area where Jodi says she got rid of the gun?

Because everyone knows Jodi lies. You cannot take anything she says at face value. If she said she threw it in the desert, then the chances are great that it went over the Hoover Dam into Lake Mead.

 

[carnnell]

Actually, I don't this is evidence of anything like that. If I'm remembering correctly, Jodi Arias was the one who first invoked the "12 year old school girl" imagery in one of her texts to TA. Paraphrasing "you make me feel like a dirty little 12 year old school girl." I'm not a aficionado by any means but my understanding is that it's a fairly common fantasy in that realm. Engaging in that fantasy isn't confirmation that someone is a pedophile. Pedophilia is the condition in which a persons primary sexual attraction is toward *actual* children. Not grown women dressed up in plaid skirts, pigtails and knee highs.

Yes this is evidence! It is part of the audio tape admitted into evidence. It is evidence.

 

[Snoopy1]

omg I was making a joke.

sorry - just got a little fired up there for a second :furious:......


:chillout: ......whew. all better

 

[megmono]

Jean c is so wishy washy. At night she says its a good day for JA. The next day she always flips by morning time. Makes no sense. And I like her

 

[LaneGirl]

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I just posted the tape and an article above. Is the fact that he found the idea of a 12 year old having an orgasm arousing not disturbing to you?

Pedo's like children period they don't change ever. If he was a pedo they would have found something on his computer, photos, etc. In fact pedos love kids so much they don't even think what they are doing is wrong they only think society doesn't understand them.

His comment is disturbing, however Jodi had in the 48hrs tape a childlike voice and maybe during her "moment" it was even more childlike. I think TA made a in the moment comment that was very wrong.

Again I would be more inclined to believe this if something else was found to back this up.

 

[CUCKOOHEAD]

She did take a long time, comparatively speaking, to answer that question. I think the wheels were spinning and she was trying to decide what answer would be best - found or not found.

I saw that pause and it shouldn't have been there. It was a simple yes or no answer if the gun had been recovered but the house of cards liar was trying to think of all possible repercussions.

 

[SunDawnn]

IMO and I've said this before, Arias is far more tech savvy than she's leading us to believe. I stand by my statement before that this monster knows to how to use proxy servers, spoof email addresses, change the timestamps on photos, and install keylogging software.

The ONLY reason that she left the memory card in the camera was because she FORGOT to remove it in her haste to get the heck of our Travis' house. She had limited time to clean up the scene before Enrique came home from work.

The whole story about the scratched CDs is a crock as well as anybody that's been taking photos and trying to make a living at it would protect those CD(s) with some form of jacket or sleeve.

In Arias' fable, every tech device she touches either gets lost or breaks down, i.e. hard drive failure, lost cameras, cell phones in hot chocolate, etc. I've been in the systems business for 30+ years and only had one hard drive failure from which I was able to recover the lost data.

I'd like to hear JM ask her about the sequence of phones in her time with Travis, month-by-month. Which phone did she have and when ? There are so many lies embedded deep in her story it would take an army of investigators to unravel them.

Fortunately for us, the monster speaks English and is contradicting herself at every twist and turn.

I agree with your over-all assessment of said-inmate but the other possible scenario is, the camera was accidentally and/or inadvertently dropped in the wash machine.
And because it wasn't HER camera, it lacked instinctive prioritizing when gathering up HER items (including her gun).

If finger print and DNA washing was her main objective then, sticking the camera in the shower with Travis (around his neck w/strap) would've suffice too! Why draw special attention to an item and put it in an unlikely place? That's like putting the gun in the dish washer!
I still think it was an over-sight but, doesn't really matter.

Regardless, they're gonna nuke her!!! No way any one in this jury feels an ounce of sympathy for her.

 

[UKgirl]

She may have said it was a small family-run business but that wouldn't be true since there are 13 locations. Here is some of the history:





That was 1997 so I imagine that by 2005+ he had established many of the locations that currently exist. In order to find out if Casa Ramos had more than one location in 2006 - 2008 I looked them up on Yelp to see if there were any comments about the establishment.

Earliest Yelp comments:
Mt. Shasta - February, 2008
Redding - June, 2006
Chico, 1st Location - September, 2006
Chico, 2nd Location - January, 2009
Placerville - March, 2006
Red Bluff - February, 2010
Lincoln - February, 2010
Corning - June, 2009
Folsom - June, 2010
El Dorado Hills - December, 2012
Willows - February, 2008
Rancho Cordova - November, 2011
Yreka - February, 2010 (though we know this location was open much earlier than that since this is where Jodi worked).

That's 4 locations open at the time Jodi was working there....not as small an operation as she would have one believe.

With that knowledge, I have no doubt that this business had Workers Compensation insurance.

Thank you for clearing it up, we can just add this to another of JA's lies.

 

[CJae]

Actually, I don't this is evidence of anything like that. If I'm remembering correctly, Jodi Arias was the one who first invoked the "12 year old school girl" imagery in one of her texts to TA. Paraphrasing "you make me feel like a dirty little 12 year old school girl." I'm not a aficionado by any means but my understanding is that it's a fairly common fantasy in that realm. Engaging in that fantasy isn't confirmation that someone is a pedophile. Pedophilia is the condition in which a persons primary sexual attraction is toward *actual* children. Not grown women dressed up in plaid skirts, pigtails and knee highs.

That's right. SHE brought this up in text. Again she was baiting him to use against him when she couldn't get her way. I suspect that's what set Travis off in those texts telling her she better stop her crazy behavior and lies or he was go ing to expose her to everyone!

There is a HUGE dif between fantasy and actually acting out on such. There is no law against that.

I don't believe he's ever had such fantasy let alone laid a hand on a child. I think it's disgusting diabolical JA sick twisted mind thinking she will get off on his slaughter if she can hit a nerve with a juror whose truly been abused!!

Now I am DONE with this drivel for the duration!:banghead::banghead:

 

[G&AMom]

Will come back later.

 

[lilyet]

I just want to preface what I'm about to write by saying that I do not intend to blame the victim.

Travis Alexander did not deserve to die, but he was recorded on audio saying that 12-year old girls arouse him. And it's pretty clear that he was, with all due respect, kind of a creep towards women.

I just feel like the coverage of this case is so black in white, painting Travis as a saint and Jodi as the devil itself.

To be clear: I believe that Jodi Arias should be locked up forever and have the key thrown away. Travis Alexander did not deserve to die, he did not deserve to be stalked. She mutilated him. I find it incredibly hard to believe that she killed him in self-defense.

But I do believe that Jodi is telling the truth about his pedophilia and abuse, based on the evidence. Just because he was also attracted to full-grown women does not make him less of a pedophile. The victim was obviously not some kind of angel or saint. Can we stop portraying him as one? It is demeaning to abuse victims everywhere to minimize the danger of pedophilia.

Is there any room for someone with my opinion on this forum? Everyone is baying for blood >>
:twocents:

Good Morning.
I am not sure that "Everyone is baying for blood" because I know I am not. There is no proof, other than Jodi's, that Travis was a pedofile. And really, she doesn't even have any proof. She sees a picture of a boy on a bed and Travis is masturbating and that deems him a pedofile. Seriously, if that were true, and it is not imo, how does she know that the pictures on the bed were there for pleasuring himself. Maybe the "non existant" pictures existed for a diff. reason., like a collage project, or whatever?? This fabricated incident to introduce pedofilia into her defense is just plain STUPID.

Human Sexuality is a taboo subject and many people have personal hangups with it. So- Jodi used it to her advantage for a defense. In actuality, imo, they had a rather healthy sexual relationship. What they did behind closed doors, what they explored sexually together> on the porch, in the forest, phone sex, maid costumes, and finally pop rocks and tootsie pops can just as well reflect great compatability sexually. Phone sex and fantasy sex is practised by THOUSANDS of people. It is not dirty. Their SEXual experiences do not deem travis as "well, he was not a saint", or "he was no angel" So , if anyone with sexual hangups can take sex out of the equation, then YES - you will see Travis was pretty much a saint, and Jodi > the devil.