11/1/11 MSM article claims JI with kids during trip & neighbor kid saw Lisa at 6:30pm

[Abby Normal]

Dan Abrams posted a tweet after covering Lisa's story one morning. Something to the tune of how being there is a reminder of the importance of accuracy.

IMO the lazy reporting in this case is off the hook.

 

[lauriej]

Dan Abrams posted a tweet after covering Lisa's story one morning. Something to the tune of how being there is a reminder of the importance of accuracy.

IMO the lazy reporting in this case is off the hook.

------the writer of the article---was even too "lazy" to finish it.

..here's the ending:

Lisa's brothers were initially questioned by specialists on the day the baby vanished. Another session with them was planned last week but was later postponed. It has not been rescheduled, but was expected to be soon.

Sources close to the case told KMBC 9 News that

---( ummmm, that WHAT ??)

Read more: http://www.kmbc.com/news/29651699/detail.html#ixzz1cW1Tsdsf

 

[cluciano63]

Well, they can't get it wrong if they don't finish the sentence...

 

[gwenabob]

Well, they can't get it wrong if they don't finish the sentence...

Maybe this is turning into one of those Mad Libs or "finish the story they way you choose" books.

 

[In da Middle]

Maybe this is turning into one of those Mad Libs or "finish the story they way you choose" books.

Well, it probably wouldn't be any more wrong than the media has gotten things.

 

[Whisperer]

So, is it now fact that DB saw Lisa @ 7:30am, standing in her crib, and never saw her again? A ten month old awake and standing in the crib would promote the caretaker to pick the child up and take her out of the bed.

What did she do when Lisa was standing in her crib. Once awake, it's going to take some work to get the child to sleep. It was only 7:30pm!!

 

[Donjeta]

The questions I have right now:

1. Where did this information come from? The neighbor allowed her 4-year old to be interviewed by LE, did she? It wasn't too traumatic for her? She was able to cope with it although the brothers who are nearly or over twice her age aren't? Or did the reporter ask the four-year old, "you saw baby Lisa at 6.30 pm, didn't you? " and she said "um-hm I guess"? What did the mother say? Wasn't she there? Or did this tidbit come from the prestigious team of defense attorneys?

2. Supposing it's a fact that the four year old saw Lisa at 6.30 pm., I'd still want to know if Lisa was alive, moving and responsive at the time or if she was "sleeping".

 

[aafromaa]

------the writer of the article---was even too "lazy" to finish it.

..here's the ending:

Lisa's brothers were initially questioned by specialists on the day the baby vanished. Another session with them was planned last week but was later postponed. It has not been rescheduled, but was expected to be soon.

Sources close to the case told KMBC 9 News that

---( ummmm, that WHAT ??)

Read more: http://www.kmbc.com/news/29651699/detail.html#ixzz1cW1Tsdsf

in fairness, we should point out this is not an "article" written by a print media reporter - this is a transcript of an on camera report - the reporter's comments ended at "was expected to be soon" and the anchor in the studio had some closing comments that started with "sources close to the case..." - why they transcribed that part of the anchor's comments and not the rest is puzzling, but it really wasn't that the reporter nor the anchor didn't finish their thought, but that the transcript didn't contain everything in the video

 

[Cher352]

Don't know how accurate it is but this article says the neighbor left and returned at 7pm so DB would have been the only adult there for a short time that evening.

"Bradley put Lisa in her crib about 6:40 p.m., while *SB* headed to a store to purchase liquor for herself.

*SB* returned to the Irwin home about 7 p.m. and sat on the front stoop with Bradley. The two smoked cigarettes, talked and drank into the night."

(neighbor's full name deleted by me)

http://www.kansascity.com/2011/11/01/3243027/a-look-back-at-a-critical-night.html#ixzz1cX5b73Fp

 

[deoneta]

So, is it now fact that DB saw Lisa @ 7:30am, standing in her crib, and never saw her again? A ten month old awake and standing in the crib would promote the caretaker to pick the child up and take her out of the bed.

What did she do when Lisa was standing in her crib. Once awake, it's going to take some work to get the child to sleep. It was only 7:30pm!!

The very first account given by DB was that she put the baby to bed at 10:30. She included various details like changing her, putting on her pj's, giving her a bottle, etc. In the MK interviews on fox news, DB said she wasn't sure if she looked in on the baby after 6:40. Not sure where the checking on Lisa at 7:30. seeing her standing up in the crib story comes in. Maybe from the first People article? That makes three versions of putting the baby to bed/checking on her as I see it. All MOO

 

[Truthwillsetufree]

So, is it now fact that DB saw Lisa @ 7:30am, standing in her crib, and never saw her again? A ten month old awake and standing in the crib would promote the caretaker to pick the child up and take her out of the bed.

What did she do when Lisa was standing in her crib. Once awake, it's going to take some work to get the child to sleep. It was only 7:30pm!!

So true. Just from experience when a toddler sleeps for an hour or so (according to DB she put her to bed at 6:40 pm) and is found standing in her crib, that is a power nap and that toddler is ready to get up, play, do what toddlers do. If DB had tried to put Lisa back to bed it would have been some kind of ordeal, one the neighbor lady and her daughter would have surely remembered. Of course this is just a theory......

 

[lorann]

So true. Just from experience when a toddler sleeps for an hour or so (according to DB she put her to bed at 6:40 pm) and is found standing in her crib, that is a power nap and that toddler is ready to get up, play, do what toddlers do. If DB had tried to put Lisa back to bed it would have been some kind of ordeal, one the neighbor lady and her daughter would have surely remembered. Of course this is just a theory......

Not only would the four year old love to see a baby, Lisa would have wanted to see and play with the four year old. My daughter at four would have sneaked in the room if she could and checked that baby out.

 

[matou]

So 6:40 pm is the time the neighbor goes to the store to buy booze and this happens to be the same time that DB puts Lisa to bed. DB changed Lisa's bedtime time to make it match this time, in my opinion. Is there going to be video footage of the neighbor at the store buying booze so this is verified too? So this means DB is with the two boys and the neighbor's 4 year old in her home while Lisa is in the crib. 20 minutes later, the neighbor comes back. Kids are inside. Is the baby monitor outside with them? When did the 4 year old go to bed?

 

[matou]

Did DB make supper for the neighbor and her daughter too? I thought I had read that somewhere but could be mistaken.

 

[curiousc]

Did DB make supper for the neighbor and her daughter too? I thought I had read that somewhere but could be mistaken.

Yes, it was in the People magazine....thread is here somewhere

 

[matou]

Yes, it was in the People magazine....thread is here somewhere

Thanks, supper isn't mentioned in the new article, I'll check People later, xo

http://www.kansascity.com/2011/11/01/3243027/a-look-back-at-a-critical-night.html

 

[curiousc]

So, is it now fact that DB saw Lisa @ 7:30am, standing in her crib, and never saw her again? A ten month old awake and standing in the crib would promote the caretaker to pick the child up and take her out of the bed.

What did she do when Lisa was standing in her crib. Once awake, it's going to take some work to get the child to sleep. It was only 7:30pm!!

I agree.

You know, we have a 6:40 p.m. bedtime, and it just so happens the neighbor is gone at that time. It just so happens that at 7:30 Baby Lisa is standing in her crib....then it just so happens that a call is made on MW's phone at 8:30. Could something have happened to Lisa during that time?

 

[curiousc]

Thanks, supper isn't mentioned in the new article, I'll check People later, xo

http://www.kansascity.com/2011/11/01/3243027/a-look-back-at-a-critical-night.html

It's in the October 31st issue. There is a discussion about it in the People Magazine thread.

 

[norest4thewicked]

Nope! I don't believe it. I am so sick of how messed up this case has become at the hands of media! This just doesn't make sense. Media is reporting things that a 4 year old is "saying," but not what the mother, who was with DB all night said? This is not a rocket scientist question!

 

[Kamille]

It's in the October 31st issue. There is a discussion about it in the People Magazine thread.

Except this article states that JI had dinner with the "family" and then left.


Irwin came home from his day job as an electrician about 2:30 that afternoon, which was the first Monday in October. He stayed long enough to have dinner with his family and play with the children.

Read more: http://www.kansascity.com/2011/11/01/3243027/a-look-back-at-a-critical-night.html#ixzz1cYplsIDN

So DB cooked dinner again for the neighbour and her daughter? Her family had already eaten according to this. :waitasec:

And this article says PN left after the wine run...to go where?