17-yo Teen Trayvon Martin Shot to Death by Neighborhood Watch Captain #6

[LolaMoon08]

As soon as my 17-year-old niece turns 18-years-old, I am taking her to get a gun permit. I'd rather her have a fighting chance against aggressive neighborhood watch men who don't even have the gall to identify themselves to the person they are stalking with a gun on them.

 

[m00c0w]

That's stereotyping as well...IMO

I never said it wasn't.

 

[Dr.Fessel]

Apologies. He was headed back towards his vehicle.



http://articles.orlandosentinel.com...juana-report-press-conference-gated-community

That is version 4.2 I think. Who knows who the unnamed authority is. It could be Zimmerman's lawyer or friend he talked to.

 

[LolaMoon08]

I respectfully disagree.If he is not charged he has every right to finish his schooling and have a career in law enforcement.

God help us all!

ETA: I honestly don't believe he would pass a mental exam to be a police officer!

 

[Cher352]

Geraldo blamed the hoodie? Seriously? :what:

:waitasec:

Maybe people don't wear hoodies in Florida as much as Oregon! :dunno:

You are right there. We have been having 80 degree for the last 2 months here in Central FL. Even hit 89 one day last month.

I have a teenage son and yes he has a hoodie but only wears it on the coldest days of winter which was only a couple times this last winter and he would never be caught wearing the hood up over his head. Of course his is one of those designer skateboarder ones which he says is not worn that way.

Sad to say the majority of the time I see hoodies here in FL is watching the news where they show video of late night store robberies. Almost every one of those have a guy wearing a hoodie with the hood pulled up over their head.

 

[m00c0w]

As soon as my 17-year-old niece turns 18-years-old, I am taking her to get a gun permit. I'd rather her have a fighting chance against aggressive neighborhood watch men who don't even have the gall to identify themselves to the person they are stalking with a gun on them.

Generally you have to be 21.

 

[daisy7]

The Miami Herald | EDITORIAL
Revoke this license to kill

OUR OPINION: Law invoked in Trayvon Martin death often misapplied
By The Miami Herald Editorial
[email protected]

Now that the horrific shooting of Trayvon Martin has been made, incredibly, far worse through police missteps, bias and a deeply flawed state law, Gov. Rick Scott and State Attorney General Pam Bondi have imposed a sense of official impartiality egregiously missing ever since the case flared from a smolder to a three-alarm travesty.

None of this — the international outrage, the rallies, the special prosecutor, the desperation of two heartbroken parents and, obviously, the killing itself — should have happened. But George Zimmerman, a Sanford neighborhood watch volunteer with an outsized sense of his responsibilities, did pull the trigger, killed an unarmed Trayvon, and claimed self-defense. Then the rest of the insanity began.

Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/03/...cense-to-kill.html#storylink=fb#storylink=cpy

 

[tlcya]

GZ was in the general education program at Seminole state college. He was not in the criminal justice program regardless of what he told his friend.

thank you, may I ask was this covered in MSM or do you have some other means of knowing this info? Thanks in advance. I am not asking for a link, just curious because you seem so sure his friend and supporter is not accurate.

 

[SuziQ]

The School also confirmed he was suspended due to being tardy. I wonder if they are even allowed to release sealed info?

Being suspended is not the same as being charged with a crime. Not sure what you are asking.

 

[RoseRed]

I believe it was stated serious felonies. Which would include alot of crimes such as property crimes. There are alot of minor crimes which qualify as felonies. Which Trayvon does not have.

And you know this how?

 

[LolaMoon08]

Generally you have to be 21.

But she'll be an ADULT, right? Heck, she's already an adult to a lot of people here? She should have every right to own a gun at 18-years-old to defend herself against crazy people.

 

[Storm]

I think it's a disservice to all communities to start wearing hoodies in support of TM. I agree with Mck16 - if I see a teen male with a hoodie on at night I don't care what color he is, I'm steering clear.

When we go to see a play, the costumes the characters wear help us identify who they are and what type of character they are. This isn't steroptypig. This is real life. If you don't want to be "identified" as the gansta/, then DON'T WEAR THE COSTUME. If you don't mind and don't care - fine. But complaining about it is stupid.

Hoodies are worn by any sex and color of people. My 30 yr old son is an M.D. and wears an Ohio State Hoodie often. My 23 PHD student son wears them all the time...even my 40 yr old son who works for Cisco. They are all normal guys, who happen to be white. They've never been approached for wearing a hoodie or avoided because of it. It's simply something to keep you protected from the weather and to assume that only one type of person can wear a hoodie is a ridiculous as thinking only one type of person can wear shoes. ^i^

 

[Dr.Fessel]

You are right there. We have been having 80 degree for the last 2 months here in Central FL. Even hit 89 one day last month.

I have a teenage son and yes he has a hoodie but only wears it on the coldest days of winter which was only a couple times this last winter and he would never be caught wearing the hood up over his head. Of course his is one of those designer skateboarder ones which he says is not worn that way.

Sad to say the majority of the time I see hoodies here in FL is watching the news where they show video of late night store robberies. Almost every one of those have a guy wearing a hoodie with the hood pulled up over their head.

The temp was 60 degrees and raining. I would assume that would be chilly.

 

[m00c0w]

But she'll be an ADULT, right? Heck, she's already an adult to a lot of people here? She should have every right to own a gun at 18-years-old to defend herself against crazy people.

I agree. Unfortunately, a lot of people do not.

 

[SuziQ]

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/story/2012-03-24/trayvon-martin-friends/53744670/1

I thought I had read that somewhere.

Your link is a Statement from Sanford PD. My link is a statement from Florida Department of juvinile justice.

 

[m00c0w]

Hoodies are worn by any sex and color of people. My 30 yr old son is an M.D. and wears an Ohio State Hoodie often. My 23 PHD student son wears them all the time...even my 40 yr old son who works for Cisco. They are all normal guys, who happen to be white. They've never been approached for wearing a hoodie or avoided because of it. It's simply something to keep you protected from the weather and to assume that only one type of person can wear a hoodie is a ridiculous as thinking only one type of person can wear shoes. ^i^

Again, it's not just the hoodie. Geraldo has made the hoodie into the sole issue. That's not it.

 

[tlcya]

In another crucial move, Mr. Scott announced the creation of a task force to dig into the whys and wherefores of Florida’s Stand Your Ground law. This misbegotten law is at the root of the absence of an arrest in Trayvon’s killing. (Even the lawmakers who sponsored the the ill-conceived Stand Your Ground are flummoxed that it’s being cited in this case.)

The law is poorly understood, unevenly applied throughout the state and, worst of all, has become a license to kill under a variety of suspect circumstances.

Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/03/...html#storylink=fb#storylink=cpy#storylink=cpy

thank you for this link. great op ed piece IMO

 

[LolaMoon08]

So we can send 18-year-olds off to war with guns, but they cannot legally own guns here in the United States?

 

[Sensei]

He might have been getting his cell to call police on and TM may have seen the gun and jumped him.JMO

LE were already on the way....he had already called them, why would he want to call them again?

TM MAY have seen the gun or
GZ May have brandished the gun in an attempt to stop him

There are any number of ways that this could have happened, but his behavior before that the witness who says that he was on Trayvons back, not attempting to render any aid, ect the entire circumstances surrounding this IMO and JMO, makes it highly unlikely that TM "Jumped" him in any way, but that GZ, not meaning to do any bodily harm, but determined to capture this crook who was casing his neighborhood and either caught his arm or his clothes and caused TM to vigourously defend himself seems to be the most likely to me.

I don't think GZ stalked him with the intent to kill him, but I do think that he intended to hold him for LE and cover himself with glory for catching one of the gang that was breaking into houses and making the neighborhood miserable, and that it got well out of his ability to handle, and a kid ended up dead. IMO JMHO and stuff

 

[Horace Finklestein]

How is it obvious he pulled the gun out after the attack? I think it's just as obvious that the reason an altercation started in the first place was because Zimmerman had the gun out?

I don't think TM would have attacked GZ if GZ had a gun pointed at him.