17 yo Trayvon Martin Shot to Death by Neighborhood Watch Captain #14

[iluvmua]

Their lawyer, and yes he would have picked the most "innocent" looking one without their real input. Personally if it were me I would have used the recent one of Trayvon on the horse, I think it would have still garnished the same emotional response while at the same time depicting Trayvon as he was at the time of his murder.

I agree

 

[Yoda]

Thanks for the link!

1-13 seconds - news anchor
13-23 seconds - Reporter walks to the spot.
23-31 seconds - Reporter goes to door to talk to witness "John".
31-33 seconds - footage of crime scene tape and cop cars, that appear to have driven up to the spot.
34-36 seconds - 3 cops standing with 2 people in area of crime scene tape ~maybe witnesses?~
36-45 seconds - Witness "John" speaking from behind his front door.
41 seconds - cop car appears in grass behind crime scene tape.
45-46 seconds - crime scene tape appears to be tied to 2 trees. 1 on each side of the sidewalk. There is a fire hydrant in the picture. Reporter is speaking again until
48-55 seconds - Witness "John" speaks again.
56 -126 seconds- Reporter not on camera, TM's dad & fiancee talking by crime scene.
126-133 seconds- Reporter speaking, footage of the cops at the crime scene plays.
134-141 seconds - Reporter finishes speaking, he is somewhere in the complex.

-- Watched & paused the video a few times, hopefully I got that all correct.

Wait. Didn't mr. Martin say somewhere in another article that it all got cleaned up real fast. Like he didn't see any crime scene tape or anything? Does anyone remember that.

 

[TonyGatto]

I took it to mean a metaphorical "back porch", as you describe. That he was killed practically on his back porch, or extremely close to home. I've also heard "back yard" used in the same way. I don't think there's an intrinsic difference between the two sayings.

NIMBY -- Not in My Backyard. Doesn't mean you don't want the sewage treatment plant in your backyard, literally.

 

[IzzyBlanche]

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http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...ooting-death-trayvon-martin-article-1.1051848

The parents denied their son’s link to a Twitter account, in which he purportedly tweeted about smoking marijuana and made derogatory comments about women.

Thank you. So how/when was it established that the disputed account was definitely TM's?

 

[Nova]

That would be where the initial aggressor comes into play. Whoever threw the first punch would be culpable.

Sorry, but as you phrase it, it doesn't make any legal sense. If you come rushing at me with a gun or knife and I (being unarmed) throw the first punch, I don't believe Florida law is going to require that I let you stab me or shoot me before I defend myself.

 

[songline]

Please someone tell me I have lost my ever-lovin mind, am I seriously reading that it is Trayvon's fault that he was murdered because he didn't run from a bullet fast enough? :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

NOBODY is blaming Trayvon that he is dead. I am suggesting that he may not have
been scared enough to walk fast because he had long legs and get do distance quick.
NOW WHERE IS THE BLAME?

It is how you transelate it.

 

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[IzzyBlanche]

The father said that he was suspended for being in an unauthorized area of the school.

Thank you, I had forgotten about that.

 

[m00c0w]

Sorry, but as you phrase it, it doesn't make any legal sense. If you come rushing at me with a gun or knife and I (being unarmed) throw the first punch, I don't believe Florida law is going to require that I let you stab me or shoot me before I defend myself.

The person rushing at you with the visible gun or knife would clearly be the initial aggressor in that instance... Unless I'm missing something?

 

[iluvmua]

Wait. Didn't mr. Martin say somewhere in another article that it all got cleaned up real fast. Like he didn't see any crime scene tape or anything? Does anyone remember that.

Yes, he said that

I remember that

http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/03/31/v-fullstory/2725442_what-is-known-what-isnt-about.html

“I have never seen a crime scene cleaned up so fast,” Trayvon’s father, Tracy Martin, told The Miami Herald.

 

[mikeysmommom]

Was the kid home?

IF TM went to get him candy and ice tea and he was bringing it back to him then yes I assume he was home.Do you think they took her son with them and left his son home?I did not see that in any articles.

 

[angeleleven]

Trayvon's parents are on Geraldo at Large on Fox now.

 

[Lovejac]

Yes, we're waiting for the photographic evidence LE took at the scene of Zimmerman's injuries and forensics to come back on both Zimmerman and Trayvon's clothes to determine what happened during the altercation.

I'm still hoping and praying Sandford PD actually DID any of that :what:

 

[LambChop]

Their lawyer, and yes he would have picked the most "innocent" looking one without their real input. Personally if it were me I would have used the recent one of Trayvon on the horse, I think it would have still garnished the same emotional response while at the same time depicting Trayvon as he was at the time of his murder.

You know what I think.......I know, I know, I can hear all the no's now. I think someone picked up a picture in a frame and handed it to whomever and that was the picture first released. I do not have pictures lying around anymore. I have pictures from 70's and 80's but nothing since digital cameras came out. They are on a disk, or in my computer, or stored on my memory card in my camera. Grabbing a picture that is available seems logical. Sitting going through your computer does not sound like something I would be doing after a death. Later yes, immediately no, I'd say whatever you can find you can have and that would be it. jmo

 

[Nova]

Respectfully, Nova, the woman who speaks in the video is not TM's mother. I'm pretty sure it is his father's gf. She does mean back porch in the literal sense, but her meaning is unclear because she's very upset. IMO, she means he was sitting on the porch prior to going to the store.

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/new...led-in-neighborhood-altercation#ixzz1qpX1S895

Thanks, Bessie. I realized my error in later posts. These threads fill up so fast that a simple correction doesn't appear until many pages later.

Now that I've listened to the video, I think either of our interpretations could be correct: she could be referring to the last time she saw him, she could mean metaphorically that he was "home". What she does not appear to be doing is giving the location of his death, since she and TM's father are at the place where TM actually died.

 

[Emeralgem]

Trayvon's mother a father are on Geraldo.. NOW

Sabrina just stated that Tracy identified their son the next day after the shooting.

 

[mikeysmommom]

So "John" was so close to Trayvon and Zimmerman that he could see whose mouth was moving when the screaming was taking place (with Zimmerman being on the bottom, I don't understand that?)? Was he standing directly over them? To the side?

ETA: I'm not saying John is lying, I'm just saying that he may have just assumed the person on bottom, at that moment, was the one screaming?

Maybe the one on top TM was to busy punching the man on the bottom to turn his head to speak.He had to be close because he saw red on the bottom,maybe GZ head was turned towards him and he could tell.He states it very clearly the one on bottom no hesitation I could hear.He also might have had his patio door light on..JMO

 

[LambChop]

So "John" was so close to Trayvon and Zimmerman that he could see whose mouth was moving when the screaming was taking place (with Zimmerman being on the bottom, I don't understand that?)? Was he standing directly over them? To the side?

ETA: I'm not saying John is lying, I'm just saying that he may have just assumed the person on bottom, at that moment, was the one screaming?

I bet John had to change his underwear..... jmo

 

[Emeralgem]

Crump is saying the lead investigator wanted to arrest and charge GZ that night because his version of what happened was not credible..

 

[deelytful1]

Which post were you trying to quote, I'll go back and read it.

I think it was mine.. I posted something about Al Sharpton before I read the "Warning" on the first page...
I hope I'm allowed to mention his name! :what: