17 yo Trayvon Martin Shot to Death by Neighborhood Watch Captain #31

[Dr.Fessel]

The prosecution doesn't need to. One of the prosecution's biggest supporters even has his own MSNBC tv show.

Is that the drudge report?

 

[thefragile7393]

I'm not insisting on a particular outcome in the case. I'm saying he will be acquitted mark my words... All other issues aside the man was attacked and he defended himself.

This would be where you throw in your IMO, MOO, etc, as you are stating this as fact when actually no one knows who did what.

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[mercuriod]

I'm saying that if one side is presenting their side in a manner that could affect public opinion, the other side should be able to, as well. It's only fair.

Only one party in the case of the State of Florida vs Zimmerman is presenting their side in any manner and that is only O'Mara. So it is only fair that the prosecution go on all the talking head shows and spout how evil Zimmerman is without offering any proof right????/

 

[katydid23]

The attorneys representing the victims family are NOT a party to the case of State of Florida vs Zimmerman, and are therefore not held to the same ethical standards that O'Mara and the prosecution are held to in discussing this ongoing case.

There are at least four attorneys that I have seen giving out very emotional statements, as FACTS, and stirring the pot. They are doing so every day on many different tv and radio shows.

Imo, Omara would not be doing his job if he did not go on the air and try to disseminate some of his side of the case as well.

 

[mercuriod]

The prosecution doesn't need to. One of the prosecution's biggest supporters even has his own MSNBC tv show.

What MEMBER of the prosecution team has his own MSNBC tv show?

 

[m00c0w]

You know I never look at it as the State is representing the victim. I see it as the State is representing the Law and the Laws purpose is to see Justice done.

Zimmerman is standing before the court demanding Justice and the State will give it to him according to the Law.

Yes, and no. The state's job is to prosecute. Without a defense, even more innocent people would end up in jail than are already there. I'd say they represent the victim that is unable to represent themselves more so than "justice". I think the actual trial process is where justice is served. That's my opinion, anyway, and only my opinion.

 

[chefmom]

Not only is it unprofessional, but the context of the statement implies that Zimmerman approached Trayvon, and thus far the stories that we have heard all claim that Zimmerman had broken off following Trayvon, that he was innocently looking for an address, or was going back to his vehicle, and was somehow surprised and sucker punched breaking his nose and rendering him unable to defend himself except by shooting. This statement where the Police Chief says that you shouldn't be attacked for asking if you live here sounds very much as if Zimmerman approached Trayvon, who we know was at that time on the phone. No circling around and lying in wait, no sucker punch and no attack from behind....So if Zimmerman got punched and his nose broken, IMO it was because he attempted to stop Trayvon by putting his hands on him first, catching his arm, or clothing....Then maybe he got punched, but IMO that means that the one who is now deceased was standing his ground NOT Zimmerman.

I still find it nearly impossible to believe that a man armed with a loaded gun could possibly have found himself in fear of his life from an unarmed teenager, and not have punched or kicked or scratched him...basically lay there like a limp noodle and got beaten until he was afraid for his life and never landed a single blow, and that the teenager managed to punch his lights out making him fear for his life without bruising his knuckles, or getting a single mark on him. Just strains credibility for me IMO JMHO and stuff.

I often forget that GZ apparently told LE immediately after the shooting that he asked TM what he was doing, was assaulted, and shot TM. Seems to me that this original story goes along with the girlfriend's story. There have been several variations floated about since the $hitstorm hit, but I think this original one, when GZ was most secure and confident, closest to the truth and wll have to be the one he and MO'M run with. JMO

 

[katydid23]

http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/hanni...in-family-attorney-george-zimmerman-vigilante

Daryl Parks, of Crump's law firm.

Jasmine Rand, of the same law firm, was on O'Reilly's show.

Then you also have Natalie Jackson, and I'm pretty sure I've seen another person (a male) whose name I can't recall that was representing the family.

Crump, Jackson, Rand, Parks, and also an attorney who is with the NAACP has been making the rounds and seeming to speak for the Martins as well. And of course, the man who has his own show on MSNBC.

 

[m00c0w]

Only one party in the case of the State of Florida vs Zimmerman is presenting their side in any manner and that is only O'Mara. So it is only fair that the prosecution go on all the talking head shows and spout how evil Zimmerman is without offering any proof right????/

Has O'Mara done similar, on the converse side?

 

[suzihawk]

Yeah, I think I would've advised against that. He did say it was in response to the mother's saying in an interview that she wanted to know those specific things (and after a failed attempt to telephone them to provide those answers). But I think it would've been better had O'Mara just expressed those sentiments for GZ in an interview (or not at all) as opposed to allowing GZ to do so in court. I have no idea whether O'Mara cooked that up or whether GZ insisted.

And now he's back peddaling. :back:

You can't convince me he didn't know the parent's feelings on this matter. Here's the apology for the apology...


After the hearing, Martin’s parents said during a news conference they didn’t appreciate Zimmerman’s public statement of remorse.

"To be honest, had I known that -- maybe had I seen the press conference -- I'm not sure that we would have done it at the bond hearing, because the purpose of it truly was to get to the family and to respond directly to the family's request,”

“Had I known or been told that that wasn't the time, it wouldn't have happened. So, I apologize for that."

Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/nation...ges_tune_KXnrPznq1fSxoPBmEHWZIM#ixzz1suwXb2Oa

 

[mercuriod]

There are at least four attorneys that I have seen giving out very emotional statements, as FACTS, and stirring the pot. They are doing so every day on many different tv and radio shows.

Imo, Omara would not be doing his job if he did not go on the air and try to disseminate some of his side of the case as well.

What 4 attorney's for the State Attorney's offices have been giving very emotional statements as FACTS? Link please.

 

[Sensei]

There are at least four attorneys that I have seen giving out very emotional statements, as FACTS, and stirring the pot. They are doing so every day on many different tv and radio shows.

Imo, Omara would not be doing his job if he did not go on the air and try to disseminate some of his side of the case as well.

Why bother, the point of voire dire is to find 12 people who don't read, don't watch tv and don't know anything....but barring that

Either there is evidence either substantive or circumstantial or there is NOT and hopefully they can follow instructions, although Florida Juries have recently shown that the following instructions part might be harder than we think. IMO JMHO and stuff.

 

[grandmaj]

http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/hanni...in-family-attorney-george-zimmerman-vigilante

Daryl Parks, of Crump's law firm.

Jasmine Rand, of the same law firm, was on O'Reilly's show.

Then you also have Natalie Jackson, and I'm pretty sure I've seen another person (a male) whose name I can't recall that was representing the family.

I'm asking that when referring to the lawyers we are speaking of making appearances you name them. Thank you and Katy for the names. Now that we know them, we can properly refer to them.

 

[Karmady]

I was addressing his media interviews, but yeah, I agree. I think I would've advised against that. He did say it was in response to the mother's saying in an interview that she wanted to know those specific things (and after a failed attempt to telephone them to provide those answers). But I think it would've been better had O'Mara just expressed those sentiments for GZ in an interview (or not at all) as opposed to allowing GZ to do so in court. I have no idea whether O'Mara cooked that up or whether GZ insisted.

I think O'Mara's decision was 100% calculated and that he got exactly the reaction he was expecting. jmo

 

[mercuriod]

I think O'Mara's decision was 100% calculated and that he got exactly the reaction he was expecting. jmo

I actually agree with you 100%.

 

[katydid23]

What 4 attorney's for the State Attorney's offices have been giving very emotional statements as FACTS? Link please.

Saying Trayvon was murdered in cold blood. I see that as questionable statement to be given as fact, before a trial has happened. Saying he was hunted down like a dog. I never said they were with the SA office. But they do represent the family. And they are saturating the airwaves.

 

[mercuriod]

Saying Trayvon was murdered in cold blood. I see that as questionable statement to be given as fact, before a trial has happened. Saying he was hunted down like a dog. I never said they were with the SA office. But they do represent the family. And they are saturating the airwaves.

Again, they are not a party in the case of the State of Florida vs Zimmerman, O'Mara is.

 

[m00c0w]

I'm asking that when referring to the lawyers we are speaking of making appearances you name them. Thank you and Katy for the names. Now that we know them, we can properly refer to them.

When we're referring to the entire group, is there a preferred name? I'm not trying to be snarky - just genuinely curious. The conversation this stems from seems to be more about the entire group than one or two individual ones. Thanks.

 

[uvamerica]

BBM

I was just searching for this quote and couldn't find it. I really need to improve my search skills.

For the Chief of Police to say that is beyond unprofessional, it's inexcusable.

He had to step down for a very good reason. He's no scapegoat.

JMHO

Actually, the day chief Lee made his statement was the day I knew something wasn't right about this case, he was so condescending and arrogant. I think his speech made many question what really happened in this case. And what his role was. IMO

 

[mikeysmommom]

Actually I knew Anthony would not be found guilty. I happen to be at a bar the day the verdict was read. And before the jury ever spoke I said aloud she's going to be acquitted... You should have seen the looks I got after the Jury read it's verdict exactly as I said it would be...

It's the same thing here Zimmerman will be acquitted mark my words... He was attacked and defended himself it's going to be near impossible for the Prosecution to prove otherwise.

IMO GZ will go before the judge and charges will be dismissed under SYG law.JMO I do not see this ever going to trial.