17 yo Trayvon Martin Shot to Death by Neighborhood Watch Captain #34

[HiHater]

Thanks. Someone else pointed that out also. That make more sense than coming back non stop to keep raising the bond.

Not sure what is accomplished by raising it though. It may even inspire more people to donate.

I would think that having more money could give someone more of a chance to flee. JMO putting a higher bond would secure that....

 

[mikeysmommom]

I thought the purpose of all of the earlier press was to get an arrest and a trial. But imo, Crump seems to be criticizing, publicly, every aspect of the pre-trial hearings as well. Is he going to try the entire case in the court of public opinion?

IMO Mr.Crump should be very careful of what he says in the media since he is not the prosecutor nor the defense can't he get in trouble for this?Is he upset GZ collected more then he did.JMO

 

[HiHater]

I thought the purpose of all of the earlier press was to get an arrest and a trial. But imo, Crump seems to be criticizing, publicly, every aspect of the pre-trial hearings as well. Is he going to try the entire case in the court of public opinion?

MOM is the only attorney associated with the actual trial who regularly appears on TV. Jmo

 

[mikeysmommom]

I would think that having more money could give someone more of a chance to flee. JMO putting a higher bond would secure that....

It is held in trust by his Attorney,so that should not be an issue.

 

[strawberry]

This morning when MOM was talking outside the courthouse. I said I could barely hear him over the traffic. :doh: I forgot I had this site up in another tab:

http://www.pacast.com/players/falcon.asp

The momma has two babies and two eggs are about to hatch. It's in downtown Harrisburg. :wink:

 

[Melanie]

So he spent a little over 50k for living expenses? I know the family had to go out of town, but did they stay at a 5 star hotel or what? I'm recovering from a procedure done on my lung and haven't been able to keep up and I'm just really over-medicated so forgive my laziness.

But isn't that his business and not ours? What Casey did with her 200K isn't any different than what GZ does with his 200K. The State still ends up picking the tab for the prosecution (and probably most of the defense).

If people want to give him money that's something they have to reconcile (I would never). By not disclosing it at the hearing is where I have the issue, and not how he spent it. He indicated the funds (via his website were for his defense and expenses). It's not up to us to decide how much his expenses are (that's between him and his benefactors).

It's up to his attorney now to keep his hands on that money for all his defense witnesses (ala Jose Baez).

I'm not quite convinced this will have any play on the bond hearing, unless the judge finds that someone lied under oath. And I will admit, I don't remember all the questions so I can't say for sure.

MOO

Mel

 

[sleonardelli]

Another SYG trial: http://www2.tbo.com/news/breaking-n...secutor-dooley-lied-after-shooting-ar-397140/

Reading that Dooley showed his gun makes me wonder if GZ didn't do the same. Sadly, there are no living witnesses to this.

 

[Donjeta]

I thought the purpose of all of the earlier press was to get an arrest and a trial. But imo, Crump seems to be criticizing, publicly, every aspect of the pre-trial hearings as well. Is he going to try the entire case in the court of public opinion?

It's a risk you take if you lie and mislead the court.
I suppose GZ may be fairly certain that he can deceive the judge about his financial state and get away with it but he can hardly expect that the people who are already angry at him for shooting someone dead will just shrug and say, whatever.

 

[Karmady]

I thought the purpose of all of the earlier press was to get an arrest and a trial. But imo, Crump seems to be criticizing, publicly, every aspect of the pre-trial hearings as well. Is he going to try the entire case in the court of public opinion?

Yep. I thought it was interesting that the State tried to gag the "attorneys involved in the case." I didn't read the motion. Did that apply to the Crump firm, as well?

If not, they would still be allowed to speak on behalf of the family, but O'Mara would not have been allowed to speak on behalf of George. Very strategic, imo, if true. I guess that motion was denied, though. So that's good, imo.

http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/04/27/2770968_zimmerman-attorney-to-tell-judge.html#storylink=addthis

 

[impatientredhead]

I would think that having more money could give someone more of a chance to flee. JMO putting a higher bond would secure that....

I think the likelihood of fleeing is no less at 250k as it is at 150k.
At some point the person is a flight risk or they aren't.

 

[Donjeta]

But if someone already lied about their finances, can you trust their word when they say they're not a flight risk?

 

[HiHater]

I think the likelihood of fleeing is no less at 250k as it is at 150k.
At some point the person is a flight risk or they aren't.

Don't get what u mean? Finances are a factor in determining flight risk. If the finances are not clear, how was the assessment of risk accurate?

 

[katydid23]

MOM is the only attorney associated with the actual trial who regularly appears on TV. Jmo

Crump is VERY associated with the actual trial. People give him credit for making this trial possible. But for him to keep going on the air and calling Zimmerman a manipulative liar, who cannot be believed, and that he is guilty of murder as well, imo, he is going too far.

He should back off and let Justice take it's course. IMO

 

[Melanie]

I think the likelihood of fleeing is no less at 250k as it is at 150k.
At some point the person is a flight risk or they aren't.

I would find it quite difficult for him to leave the country and live in hiding on 200K. The judge already made it a condition of his bond that he could leave the State (but did he take away his passport).

Zimmerman must wear an electronic monitoring device and he may be allowed to leave the state

I don't like GZ, that's my personal opinion. I think he's been shady in his truths to the court (again my personal opinion). But where would this high profile defendant flee to besides out of the country (he's permitted to go to any State in the USA if he wishes). I don't agree with the judge, and felt he should have had to remain in the State of FL, but I didn't make the decision

MOO

Mel

 

[AngelWings444]

I thought the purpose of all of the earlier press was to get an arrest and a trial. But imo, Crump seems to be criticizing, publicly, every aspect of the pre-trial hearings as well. Is he going to try the entire case in the court of public opinion?

I hope he continues to speak about this case publicly. Trayvon and his family should have a voice as well. If MOM was shutting it in public , and the lying about funds at the bail hearing didn't occur, I'm sure Mr. Crump wouldn't have anything to say today. I fully expect him to respond on Trayvon and his families behalf, they are the victim's.

JMO

 

[Phoenixfla]

I would think that having more money could give someone more of a chance to flee. JMO putting a higher bond would secure that....

I understand what your saying, but he has just started receiving donations as of a few weeks ago. Lets say in a month that he has a million dollars in his account, it seems that raising the bond now will be pointless if the donors continue to donate.

 

[Donjeta]

It's hardly Crump's fault if GZ looks bad for being deceptive in court. IMO.

 

[katydid23]

I hope he continues to speak about this case publicly. Trayvon and his family should have a voice as well. If MOM was shutting it in public and the lying about funds at the bail hearing didn't occur, I'm sure Mr. Crump wouldn't have anything to say today. I fully expect him to respond on Trayvon and his families behalf, they are the victim's.

JMO

But the parents have been saying they just want a fair trial. And this judge seems to be trying to do that. GZ has the legal right to receive a bond, and yet the parents sent out the message through Crump, about how devastated they were that the defendant received what is USUALLY ALWAYS given in cases like this. Imo, Crump is elevating the emotional drama unnecessarily, by hyping every single thing that happens, and making it seem like an unfair development. JMO

 

[Aedrys]

But the parents have been saying they just want a fair trial. And this judge seems to be trying to do that. GZ has the legal right to receive a bond, and yet the parents sent out the message through Crump, about how devastated they were that the defendant received what is USUALLY ALWAYS given in cases like this. Imo, Crump is elevating the emotional drama unnecessarily, by hyping every single thing that happens, and making it seem like an unfair development. JMO

And the defense is doing the exact same thing. So it's okay for the defense to continually try this case in the media, but no one should speak against them? They are the ones who lied about the Paypal account, oh sorry, I mean it was an oversight. How GZ can be trusted about his version of events the night he shot Trayvon if he lies about a monetary account? He and his lawyer are making themselves look worse and worse. They need to stop all of the shadiness and lying and then Crump won't have anything to complain about, IMO.

 

[mikeysmommom]

But the parents have been saying they just want a fair trial. And this judge seems to be trying to do that. GZ has the legal right to receive a bond, and yet the parents sent out the message through Crump, about how devastated they were that the defendant received what is USUALLY ALWAYS given in cases like this. Imo, Crump is elevating the emotional drama unnecessarily, by hyping every single thing that happens, and making it seem like an unfair development. JMO

IMO It has and will continue to backfire on Mr.Crump. I bet every time he goes on air donation amount will raise for GZ.