17 yo Trayvon Martin Shot to Death by Neighborhood Watch Captain #34

[Dr.Fessel]

Correct. But you do that before you put the pistol in your holster and you don't have to do it multiple times.

Some people don't like to have a cocked gun in their holster. A lot of people shoot themselves that way.

 

[Ambrosia]

Since it was raining, could the "screech" sound be windshield wipers?

By this time he had left the vehicle and was talking to dispatch. I think he had made it down Twin Trees to a cut-through for a clear view down the central gap btw the complex.

 

[Dr.Fessel]

The PF9 has no manual safety so the only "safety thing" you can do is not chamber that first round.

http://mouseguns.com/pf9rev/pf9rev.htm

 

[octobermoon]

Some people don't like to have a cocked gun in their holster. A lot of people shoot themselves that way.

:what:

Oh my, so many jokes... not goin' there... :innocent:

 

[ynotdivein]

More tea, anyone?

 

[Dr.Fessel]

Seriously, I can not imagine carrying a gun pointed at my body with no safety on it. I would never ever do it.

 

[ynotdivein]

Seriously, I can not imagine carrying a gun pointed at my body with no safety on it. I would never ever do it.

OK when Ynot starts thinking of Plaxico Burress jokes, we KNOW it's time for bed. :what: Salem, help me out here?

 

[octobermoon]

More tea, anyone?

Yes please
I heard Dr. Fessel baked brownies
I am sure he will share.

 

[Deleted member 39678]

Some people don't like to have a cocked gun in their holster. A lot of people shoot themselves that way.

Your right. Check out a man by the name of Jeff Cooper.
[ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Cooper"]Jeff Cooper - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]

 

[octobermoon]

G'night all.

 

[mercuriod]

Yes please
I heard Dr. Fessel baked brownies
I am sure he will share.

To go with Doc's brownies I baked fresh cookies, white chocolate macadamia nuts and triple chocolate chip, passing the plate around now.

 

[Deleted member 39678]

Seriously, I can not imagine carrying a gun pointed at my body with no safety on it. I would never ever do it.

I'm heading up to the hills tomorrow and I'll put my S&W Model 66 on my hip. No safety on that gun. It's a good old fashioned double action revolver. Plenty safe for me.

 

[Salem]

Yum.... I love cookies.

I'm locking up shop in about 5 minutes, guys. SoSue will be here bright and early to open things up again, so it won't be long

Salem

ETA: The other threads/cases will be open in case you would like to take a look around and maybe take your minds off this case for a bit.

 

[Dr.Fessel]

The first pistol I ever carried had 3 safeties on it and people still shot themselves with it.

The military mandated a grip safety and a manual safety.[1] A grip safety, sear disconnect, slide stop, half position, and manual safety (located on the left rear of the frame) are on all standard M1911A1s.[1] Several companies have developed a firing pin block safety. Colt's 80 series uses a trigger operated one and several other manufacturers, including Kimber and Smith & Wesson, use a Swartz firing-pin safety, which is operated by the grip safety.[31][32]

[ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M1911_pistol"]M1911 pistol - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]

 

[Dr.Fessel]

I'm heading up to the hills tomorrow and I'll put my S&W Model 66 on my hip. No safety on that gun. It's a good old fashioned double action revolver. Plenty safe for me.

I wish I was going too. Miss the hills.

 

[vlpate]

Seriously, I can not imagine carrying a gun pointed at my body with no safety on it. I would never ever do it.

Not much chance of his gun going off in his pocket with a 5lb trigger - doubles as a safety, so to speak.

 

[Salem]

See everybody in the morning!

Salem

 

[magnolia]

I think what bothers me is he was obsessed with TM not getting away. It bothers me a lot. jmo

I'm not so sure obsessed is the right word to describe Zimmerman's interest in Trayvon during that short time frame.

We had an incident not long ago where a couple of teenage boys were riding up and down our long winding road on 4-wheelers at fast speed. This had happened before. Not often, but several times before. My guess is the boys were taking advantage of their parents not being home. Out of concern for their safety, this time,my hubby called the sheriff's dept. Hubby tried to keep an eye on the boys until a sheriff's deputy arrived. I know the boys riding the 4-wheelers were breaking the law. We have no proof Trayvon was breaking the law. However, I don't think this matters. Zimmerman thought Trayvon might be breaking the law. In your opinion was my hubby obsessed with the idea of not letting these boys get away?

 

[Donjeta]

I'm not so sure obsessed is the right word to describe Zimmerman's interest in Trayvon during that short time frame.

We had an incident not long ago where a couple of teenage boys were riding up and down our long winding road on 4-wheelers at fast speed. This had happened before. Not often, but several times before. My guess is the boys were taking advantage of their parents not being home. Out of concern for their safety,my hubby called the sheriff's dept. Hubby tried to keep an eye on the boys until a sheriff's deputy arrived. I know the boys riding the 4-wheelers were breaking the law. We have no proof Trayvon was breaking the law. However, I don't think this matters. Zimmerman thought Trayvon might be breaking the law. In your opinion was my hubby obsessed with the idea of not letting these boys get away?

He refrained from going after them with a gun and let the deputy find them alive, didn't he?
I am not sure it's a completely comparable situation.

 

[ThoughtFox]

I'm not so sure obsessed is the right word to describe Zimmerman's interest in Trayvon during that short time frame.

We had an incident not long ago where a couple of teenage boys were riding up and down our long winding road on 4-wheelers at fast speed. This had happened before. Not often, but several times before. My guess is the boys were taking advantage of their parents not being home. Out of concern for their safety, this time,my hubby called the sheriff's dept. Hubby tried to keep an eye on the boys until a sheriff's deputy arrived. I know the boys riding the 4-wheelers were breaking the law. We have no proof Trayvon was breaking the law. However, I don't think this matters. Zimmerman thought Trayvon might be breaking the law. In your opinion was my hubby obsessed with the idea of not letting these boys get away?

But your husband didn't follow them and shoot them, right? We can't ignore that major fact that sets this case apart, otherwise we are comparing apples and oranges.

And there were no "obvious" signs that Trayvon was doing anything dangerous or wrong or illegal. He wasn't a group either, just one teenager walking around not bothering anyone.

Driving around too fast on loud and dangerous four-wheelers is pretty obvious compared to walking along in public talking on a phone drinking an iced tea.

"Obsession" with Trayvon in particular may not be the operative word, but George was certainly obsessed with being the Neighborhood Watch captain in light of the many and various 911 calls he had made. JMOO

Edited to Add: I wouldn't compare calling police one time out of real concern for some teenagers to what George did.