17 yo Trayvon Martin Shot to Death by Neighborhood Watch Captain #35

[gxm]

“Do you agree that you changed your story?” Mr. de la Rionda asked, referring to the five separate statements that Mr. Zimmerman gave the police about the shooting.


http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/21/us/george-zimmerman-bail-hearing.html

“Absolutely not,” Mr. Zimmerman replied in a firm voice.


http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/21/us/george-zimmerman-bail-hearing.html?_r=1

 

[Desdemona]

BOMBSHELL.....if CRIMINALS always told the TRUTH.....we wouldn't need trials.

Another Bombshell:

Posting the text of a hostile, perhaps deliberately misleading question asked of a defendant by a prosecutor does not prove that the assertion in the question is correct.

An innocent person accused of murder will be asked by the prosecutor, did you murder this victim? The question itself does not prove anything.

That is why it was pointed out that you left out GZ's reply. Glad you got a ROFL out of it, but IMO by posting only the question you didn't show that the statements differ.

The question you referred to may reveal where we got the number five, but IMO not even close to a confirmation that all five of these alleged statements represent differing "versions" of GZ's story.

JMO

 

[rossva]

separate [v. sep-uh-reyt; adj., n.
1. to keep apart or divide, as by an intervening barrier or space: to separate two fields by a fence.


dif·fer·ent [dif-er-uhnt, dif-ruhnt] adjective
1. not alike in character or quality; differing; dissimilar: The two are different.

“Do you agree that you changed your story?” Mr. de la Rionda asked, referring to the five separate statements that Mr. Zimmerman gave the police about the shooting.


http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/21/us/george-zimmerman-bail-hearing.html

 

[Aedrys]

Another Bombshell:

Posting the text of a hostile, perhaps deliberately misleading question asked of a defendant by a prosecutor does not prove that the assertion in the question is correct.

An innocent person accused of murder will be asked by the prosecutor, did you murder this victim? The question itself does not prove anything.

That is why it was pointed out that you left out GZ's reply. Glad you got a ROFL out of it, but IMO by posting only the question you didn't show that the statements differ.

The question you referred to may reveal where we got the number five, but IMO not even close to a confirmation that all five of these alleged statements represent differing "versions" of GZ's story.

JMO

Again, why would LE take the exact same statement five times? That doesn't make any sense.

 

[gxm]

Personally, I think he can't keep track of how many versions he told to LE and other people. I think he keeps changing his story, and that's going to end up biting him in the keister at trial.

I dunno. That doesn't seem to hurt defendants in highly publicized Florida trials.

JMO, OMO, and :moo:

 

[badme102]

Another Bombshell:

Posting the text of a hostile, perhaps deliberately misleading question asked of a defendant by a prosecutor does not prove that the assertion in the question is correct.

An innocent person accused of murder will be asked by the prosecutor, did you murder this victim? The question itself does not prove anything.

That is why it was pointed out that you left out GZ's reply. Glad you got a ROFL out of it, but IMO by posting only the question you didn't show that the statements differ.

The question you referred to may reveal where we got the number five, but IMO not even close to a confirmation that all five of these alleged statements represent differing "versions" of GZ's story.

JMO

OFGS, sometimes a person should just take a post, a quote, with question and answer in the CONTEXT in which it was meant to be taken, and not dissect the carp out of it until it turns into something unrecognizable.

 

[Desdemona]

And, once again...the first part of the quote deals with the changing stories, the second part the number 5...........:banghead: The link I supplied shows where it came from and that it does indeed exist.

My turn to :floorlaugh: --> poor you. I don't want you to hurt your head -- we've had plenty of round 'n round in here about head injuries!

Thank you for your effort in finding the link.

 

[tehcloser]

Another Bombshell:

Posting the text of a hostile, perhaps deliberately misleading question asked of a defendant by a prosecutor does not prove that the assertion in the question is correct.

An innocent person accused of murder will be asked by the prosecutor, did you murder this victim? The question itself does not prove anything.

That is why it was pointed out that you left out GZ's reply. Glad you got a ROFL out of it, but IMO by posting only the question you didn't show that the statements differ.

The question you referred to may reveal where we got the number five, but IMO not even close to a confirmation that all five of these alleged statements represent differing "versions" of GZ's story.



JMO

I'm still rotfl because I simply posted a link that had been implied did not exist....no one was asking about his answer. They were asking for a link to where the number 5 came from...............and by the way, GZ's answer does not "prove" anything. The man has been charged with 2nd degree murder, lying under oath might not bother him.

 

[rossva]

“Absolutely not, “ Mr. Zimmerman replied in a firm voice.

“Do you agree that you changed your story?”


That part deals with the "changing" stories................

 

[Emma Peel]

Oh, Iz sowwy. Didchu need 2 eat sum of da crow?

http://www.belgeselizle.com/wp-content/kedi-kus.jpg​

 

[tehcloser]

“Absolutely not, “ Mr. Zimmerman replied in a firm voice.

Did you ask for a link to his answer or a link showing the question and the number 5 existed.........I gave you what u ask for.

 

[rossva]

But your link says 5 "SEPERATE" stories, not 5 "DIFFERENT" stories.

lmbo..........The original post was asking for a LINK about the 5 different stories.....I gave the link.......so now it's "What did he answer?" of course he said he didn't. :floorlaugh:

 

[Just K]

Time for my evening nap before "Jeopary." I guess no docs/discovery today.

 

[gxm]

Again, why would LE take the exact same statement five times? That doesn't make any sense.

Because they're trying to trip the interviewee up. Most people can't recall an event the same way twice, but I think they are looking for large (as opposed to small) inconsistencies. Also, I'm guessing (I am not a detective) that they are hoping to fluster someone who is lying to get them to blurt out the truth.

My soon to be ex-DIL used to go into what a I called "word fugues" where she'd keep telling me the same story over and over and every time it would change until finally it bore minimal resemblance to the first recitation. I think they might be looking for that sort of thing. But IANAD and I could be wrong.

JMO, OMO, and :moo:

 

[tehcloser]

But your link says 5 "SEPERATE" stories, not 5 "DIFFERENT" stories.

Did you read the first part of the quote???????????? oh my goodness. Peeps ask for links and then have cows when they get em. Why bother.......:floorlaugh:

 

[Desdemona]

I'm still rotfl because I simply posted a link that had been implied did not exist....no one was asking about his answer. They were asking for a link to where the number 5 came from...............and by the way, GZ's answer does not "prove" anything. The man has been charged with 2nd degree murder, lying under oath might not bother him.

I didn't see anyone saying your link didn't exist... most here have seen that information, and it is probably what some are relying upon (IMO erroneously) to assume a fact not proven.

I think people were asking for a link to confirm the above assumption -- that GZ has told five or more differing versions of his story to LE. I've seen nothing to confirm that. JMO

 

[badme102]

Oh, Iz sowwy. Didchu need 2 eat sum of da crow?

http://www.belgeselizle.com/wp-content/kedi-kus.jpg​

1) That's gross :floorlaugh:

and

2) Who is eating crow. (besides that cat)?

 

[rossva]

You are focusing on the number of statements, I am focusing on the use of the word "different". There are some that are saying that Zimmerman has given 5 DIFFERENT, inferring he has changed his story, statements.

Did you ask for a link to his answer or a link showing the question and the number 5 existed.........I gave you what u ask for.

 

[mommakk51]

At GZ's bond hearing, he testified that he gave THREE (3) separate statements to LE. When asked if he ever changed his stories in any of them, his reply was "absolutely not." Please keep in mind that he was under OATH.

This is an MSM link:
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-JmtCXzs38"]George Zimmerman Testifies During His Bond Hearing. - YouTube[/ame]

IMO

 

[Nova]

BBM. That wasn't true for the Casey Anthony case. At one point, there was the very real threat the trial was not going to happen because of budget problems. The judge had to fight to get the funds so that the trial would take place. And after the trial, the state admitted that they didn't have enough in the budget for better presentations of certain evidence during trial. So no, the state doesn't always have unlimited resources, especially not in the economy we've been in for the last few years. Grant it, they do usually have more the defense, I will agree with that, but it's not always unlimited. I do wonder about Florida's budget with this next big trial looming. I hope it's better than when Casey Anthony's case took place!

THANK YOU for the considerate reply. In my defense, I don't believe I ever said the State has "unlimited" resources, just that conventional wisdom holds that the government has access to large institutions not available to the defense. I'm not convinced that all those resources are included when the DA estimates the cost of a trial.

I do remember that there were concerns about court expenses during the Anthony trial, though I never saw specific figures. You are certainly right that it is remarkable that the Anthony prosecution had to cut exhibits (or lower the quality of them) because the DA was out of money. That, I think, is a recent phenomenon and one I hope won't be repeated.