2008.07.24 George Anthony Interview

[nancy botwin]

I don't understand something---
Does anyone have an opinion about why George and Det. Melich decide to lie to Lee about George already being there? It seems weird to go into such a robust lie, pretending George is turning the car around etc. Why do they have to do this? Wouldn't Lee find out anyway?

 

[BeanE]

Ok I've read the transcript twice, and now I'm reading again as I listen to the audio.

I have a question on Page 17, lines 5 to 14. Yuri is speaking and says (leaving out ums and uhs and repeated words):

"... if it continues and it comes out that she's (Cindy's) working off of emotion, not facts, or she's trying to go down a different way, or like it came out in court, you know where she told me on the phone... (snip) ... The focus should always have been we're looking for Caylee..."

1) Is that the bond hearing he's referring to? Okay, so I have two questions lol. 2) What came out with Cindy telling Yuri something on the phone?

I remember something, I guess it must have been Cindy's LE interview, where Yuri makes another reference to Cindy lying and it being on the phone or something in the 911 calls.

Does anybody have some info on what this Cindy and the phone thing is about?

Thanks!

 

[Recovering-Lurker]

The part that got to me the most when I read the transcript was when George walked around to the trunk of the car, and he said he whispered, "Please don't let this be my Caylee." I had to rewind it on the audio 3 times to actually hear that part. He really whispers it, and it is more sad.

 

[OneLostGrl]

You think Cindy is crazy now, imagine what she'd be like without George around to try to even things out. He's the only reason she isn't in a nut house.

I cannot imagine the abuse he is living with now, as we speak, that the recording of George at the police station has played on Nancy Grace.

 

[Janis396]

I cannot imagine the abuse he is living with now, as we speak, that the recording of George at the police station has played on Nancy Grace.

I hope it doesn't bring his suicidal thoughts to the surface again.

 

[OneLostGrl]

I don't understand something---
Does anyone have an opinion about why George and Det. Melich decide to lie to Lee about George already being there? It seems weird to go into such a robust lie, pretending George is turning the car around etc. Why do they have to do this? Wouldn't Lee find out anyway?

I know! Weird.I suppose it's just Georges fear.

 

[CaliKid]

Ok I've read the transcript twice, and now I'm reading again as I listen to the audio.

I have a question on Page 17, lines 5 to 14. Yuri is speaking and says (leaving out ums and uhs and repeated words):

"... if it continues and it comes out that she's (Cindy's) working off of emotion, not facts, or she's trying to go down a different way, or like it came out in court, you know where she told me on the phone... (snip) ... The focus should always have been we're looking for Caylee..."

1) Is that the bond hearing he's referring to? Okay, so I have two questions lol. 2) What came out with Cindy telling Yuri something on the phone?

I remember something, I guess it must have been Cindy's LE interview, where Yuri makes another reference to Cindy lying and it being on the phone or something in the 911 calls.

Does anybody have some info on what this Cindy and the phone thing is about?

Thanks!

I think this is a subtle way of saying that LE doesn't want Cindy interfering in the investigation, which unfortunately, she has continued to do. I think it's also a warning that they're going to play hard-ball with her at the trial, but she chose to ignore it. We'll see what happens.

 

[OneLostGrl]

After I read the interview I really have a concern or question or something. George talks about his findings on the car, the odor- but he doesn't say what he did then. Like did he search the car or just drop it and go on as usual or what? Also, did I see it correctly that GA did admit that he and CA were withholding some info, possibly some tips? And GA did say that Cindy knew allegedly she said we lost her, so Cindy's washing clothes from the car takes on a new meaning.

Also, I wondered about the timing of GA becoming ill. He didn't become ill during the talk of the odor, during the talk of the possibility of the loss of Caylee, or anything else. But the timing of when he became ill was while they were waiting on Lee and the call came in about checking a possible sighting. It could have been because there was a break in the tension of talking with detectives I guess but I don't know, the timing just got me.

The timing of him becoming ill has me wondering too.

 

[OneLostGrl]

I hope it doesn't bring his suicidal thoughts to the surface again.

I know... Be strong George!

 

[OneLostGrl]

I hate how everyone apparently chided George and told him to "stop playing detective" whenever he tried to regulate Casey. Poor guy.

It really seems she has indeed sucked him dry.

 

[impatientredhead]

I know! Weird.I suppose it's just Georges fear.

I think George doesn't want Lee and Cindy to know he is there because he/George is off script. Either Cindy and/or Lee has declared at this point that they should not be helping LE if they are not looking for a live Caylee. George is bucking the family dynamic the only way he knows how, by being sneaky. Casey learns to lie from mom, Casey learns to be sneaky to get around mom from George. Apparantly she learned to not answer questions or cooperate with the police from Lee

 

[Lady Angler]

I don't understand something---
Does anyone have an opinion about why George and Det. Melich decide to lie to Lee about George already being there? It seems weird to go into such a robust lie, pretending George is turning the car around etc. Why do they have to do this? Wouldn't Lee find out anyway?

I hear it's a tactic in interviews when cops don't want to lose the tone or pace of an interview. They wanted Lee in there to add to George's existing line of thinking and his answers before anything was forgotten or lost. Makes sense to me, I'll chalk it up to SOP.

 

[RR0004]

I think this is a subtle way of saying that LE doesn't want Cindy interfering in the investigation, which unfortunately, she has continued to do. I think it's also a warning that they're going to play hard-ball with her at the trial, but she chose to ignore it. We'll see what happens.

I definitely agree...it was a "message" for CA. I thought it may have had something to do with her blurting out "There is no evidence!" ...but it definitely had something to do with her "mistruths".

 

[ClockWatcher]

What's up with that bit about the $4000 deposit slip and KC being held up at gun point?
When I was reading the transcript, that made me go huh???

Was George alluding that this was info he had given to the FBI or had already told John and Yuri and was not included in this interview?

Also, did I understand correctly that this was supposed to have occurred during the time she was <cough> employed at the sports place?

Would this be the theft of money that CA had affidavits from her bank that she spoke of in the 911 tapes?
Good grief....I can't keep up with all the lies.......HALP!!!

 

[countzero]

The timing of him becoming ill has me wondering too.

I know that after my husband passed, I was throwing cookies all the time. Then at some point I could actually say it out loud, the realization was there. I had spoken it and I was throwing cookies again. The panic attacks were horrible.

I think this is what happened with GA. You can have thoughts but once spoken they become real. Not only this, GA spoke them to LE, not a civilian.

Hearing his voice makes all the difference to me vs. reading it yesterday. The pauses and slow pronouncing of certain words. Pain is what I interpreted from listening.

 

[Zoe Bogart]

Oh wow! I just read through all of George's testimony from July 24th. OMG! Cindy must be fuming! He really told it like it is, and so did LE. Cindy is hindering the investigation. George told Cindy they could be in trouble for withholding information and for misleading LE. Now we know why GA & CA had to hire Nejame. That woman is trouble. Obviously, Casey is Cindy's little acorn! George has probably been one miserable man since these documents have been released. Cindy probably has him nailed to the wall.............

What's this about Casey and Academy and a gun?????? It kind of sounded like she told the family she had been working there and someone pulled a gun on her??? George went to check it out and found out it was lies, lies, lies. :bang: Or maybe I misunderstood.

So here's George telling LE that he knows what death smells like, that he feared CAYLEE not Casey was in the trunk, he fears he's lost both Caylee and Casey now, and at the end of the interview, he got sick.

This poor guy must be living in Hell knowing all this, having Cindy running her mouth constantly, and he knows his daughter has killed his granddaughter. How AWFUL for him! Poor little Caylee, only Grandpa cares that she is gone.

Also, I found it quite interesting that George didn't like Baez from the beginning.

I hope George can gather his strength and get out from under Cindy's thumb. It can't be easy being part of that family.

 

[txsvicki]

I'd like to know more about the $4,000 fake deposit that Casey supposedly made into Cindy's account, the amount being the same as the sell of George's Toyota, and having a gun held to her head. Something about Cindy wanting to work with Casey on it. It was very hard to understand what he was talking about, but I'm sure it has to do with some con and theft of money from the family and making Casey a poor victim in something in order to get out of it.

 

[cyberborg]

The timing of him becoming ill has me wondering too.

No biggie. I think it all just built up inside of him, literally!

He was nervous because he was with LE, nervous because he was saying more than he should, nervous if LE knew something bad about Caylee they weren't telling him, wanted to be the first to know, re-living the experience of the decomposition of the car, re-living his fear of Caylee being in the trunk -- and then LA was being called in.

He just had a nervous stomach and it built up, he tried to control and -- finally lost it. I think I would have done the same.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

Originally Posted by nancy botwin
I don't understand something---
Does anyone have an opinion about why George and Det. Melich decide to lie to Lee about George already being there? It seems weird to go into such a robust lie, pretending George is turning the car around etc. Why do they have to do this? Wouldn't Lee find out anyway?

Well...he sure knows now!!

 

[Zoe Bogart]

George being sick at the end of the interview is quite appropriate considering the whole reason he was at the police department was because there is a strong possibility his daughter killed her daughter, his beloved granddaughter. Just listening to his statement makes me feel ill too. It's such an upsetting, gut-wrenching situation. I'm sure anyone would be sick if their family were involved.

I think the reason George and LE didn't want Lee to know George was already there was they didn't want Lee to bring Cindy along ("we want to speak to you and George"). If Lee told Cindy George was already there, you know she'd want to rush right over to clamp his mouth shut. I think they were trying to protect the investigation and keep Cindy clear of it at that time because she would be running her mouth to the media before anyone in the public heard the 911 tapes. Cindy has the unique ability to taint everything she touches.

Obviously, George doesn't fear Lee.........