2008.11.06 Nancy Grace

[BlueEyedSpy]

Is this about picking apart people's posts, or discussing the case?

It's about discussing with TRUTH, what factual truths we do know in this case, and Cindy purchasing an identical dress and lying to the public as Turbo stated is not factual known truth in this case - by anyone.

 

[MOMto5]

I'm having opcorn: now about the dress stuff...

Wow, I must have missed one he** of a Nancy Grace tonight.
opcorn:

 

[TURBOTHINK]

You stated, not opinion, but stated that Cindy Anthony purchased another Disney dress and lied to the public that it was Caylee's original dress.

That's a serious statement that you can't seem to back up with fact now that you're called on it.

I didn't say she PURCHASED another dress and lied to the public. I said from appearance of the "starched" dress and the fact it was on a STORE HANGER it made many think it was a NEW dress. I stand by my observation.

The dress Caylee had on in the video had some identifying things on it which most likely only a mother with children would notice, which the one on TV did not.

I am very good at what I do........I am a keeper of pictures and even save and compare with side by side and pixel analysis, so I feel to make an opinion of the differences I thought I saw in the dresses is justified.

 

[magic-cat]

Thanks for admitting that Nancy is little to do with truth - and everything to do with ratings.

Nancy Grace has had CAYLEE MARIE ANTHONY as her focus for MONTHS and it is thanks to HER that this case is known nationwide as well as it is. She is a firey, educated, articulate, intelligent, dedicated, devoted woman, and when you put her in a shiny shirt, there is NOTHING that is beyond her. Her shiny shirt is her SUPERHERO costume, and she wears it so well...

Taking a tiny portion of someone's entire statement and making it mean something that it was not meant to mean is tricky business, isn't it? The statement was NOT that Nancy was little about truth and everything about ratings, it was that her ratings would not be very good if she spoonfed them milk and cookies while discussing cold blooded killers...NOT the same at all as what you seem to be trying to imply they meant.

 

[trina133]

It should but given their track record of saying "Kiss my grits" in regard to the law I seriously doubt they'd pay attention to it!



OMG! Your killing me!!!




Stop it!! It's after midnight and I'm laughing like a crazy woman to myself!!









Since you asked him let me ask you the same thing....Do you have proof that CA showed Caylees real dress??

I didn't think so.

And do you honestly think that CA would be able to go and BUY an identical dress without someone reporting it? These poor people can't FART without it going to press.

 

[ThoughtElf]

Me thinks the 'snarkiness' might have occurred when a specific NJ fan first slighted NG's Husband earlier in this thread, quite without provocation.

It was not in keeping with the case discussion in context.

 

[suspicious mind]

It's about discussing with TRUTH, what factual truths we do know in this case, and Cindy purchasing an identical dress and lying to the public as Turbo stated is not factual known truth in this case - by anyone.

Its also about speculation, if we knew nothing but truth there would be no point in sleuthing. If someone wants to throw that speculation out there, it's ok, but it's also ok to disagree. But disagree pleasantly.

 

[gracie1656]

The dress in the woods could also be Caylee's REAL dress...It was after a real dress and it is possible that it had been re-purchased in a bigger size for her as she had OBVIOUSLY outgrown that one and looked so adorable in it that they wanted to allow her to continue to have one LIKE it in her wardrobe. It is FICTION that there is/was any proof of ANYTHING about the dress in the woods-YET.

It is a plant is a statement that cannot be conclusively made based on the evidence. Yes?

2-3 yr olds don't wear size 6. Kindergarten aged children do. That dress is not Caylee's. To assume so is ridiculous.

 

[irishbosoxfan]

Surely no one thinks that Caylee who looked about a year and a half, in the pic, was wearing a size 6 dress! Our three year old wears a size 2-3.

?? Not sure how this fits in with what was quoted??

There has been much discussion on the dress sizes and if Caylee had a new dress in her current size but my post that you quoted wasn't in reference to the dress sizes.

Someone I'm not sure who it was a few pages back posted something in regards to the sizes and the general consensus concerning them

 

[magic-cat]

It's about discussing with TRUTH, what factual truths we do know in this case, and Cindy purchasing an identical dress and lying to the public as Turbo stated is not factual known truth in this case - by anyone.

And neither is stating that it is a PLANT, as you yourself have done, yes?

 

[TURBOTHINK]

It's about discussing with TRUTH, what factual truths we do know in this case, and Cindy purchasing an identical dress and lying to the public as Turbo stated is not factual known truth in this case - by anyone.

Can you say you KNOW the truth is it was the original dress?

 

[Chezhire]

It's about discussing with TRUTH, what factual truths we do know in this case, and Cindy purchasing an identical dress and lying to the public as Turbo stated is not factual known truth in this case - by anyone.

well, I know what I know, but, from your posts tonight on this thread regarding the scope of the representation Nejame agreed to in regards to Cindy and George, I think you know more than I might know about the "truths" in this case, BlueEyedSpy.

 

[ThoughtElf]

And do you honestly think that CA would be able to go and BUY an identical dress without someone reporting it? These poor people can't FART without it going to press.

No, but her defense team could. Alternately, TV show producers. Many others could have assisted in purchasing a like dress. Not saying this did occur, merely that it would be presumptuous to assume CA herself did, if it was indeed a new dress.

 

[BlueEyedSpy]

I didn't say she PURCHASED another dress and lied to the public. I said from appearance of the "starched" dress and the fact it was on a STORE HANGER it made many think it was a NEW dress. I stand by my observation.

The dress Caylee had on in the video had some identifying things on it which most likely only a mother with children would notice, which the one on TV did not.

I am very good at what I do........I am a keeper of pictures and even save and compare with side by side and pixel analysis, so I feel to make an opinion of the differences I thought I saw in the dresses is justified.

You most certainly did state that Cindy purchased the dress. As far as your line, "I am very good at what I do" - I very much disagree seeing as how you deny your own words just a few posts back.

Well, he "allowed" his big mouthed client to present another one (obviously just purchased) on TV and make a complete fool out of herself.............

So what am I to think of his ability?

 

[suspicious mind]

Can you say you KNOW the truth is it was the original dress?

I think we all know what's going on, yes?

 

[TURBOTHINK]

And do you honestly think that CA would be able to go and BUY an identical dress without someone reporting it? These poor people can't FART without it going to press.

I don't think the Anthonys (as much as they would like to believe it) are that important. George works at Disney - they have an outlet store which sells those dresses by the thousands. Who is to say?

 

[magic-cat]

2-3 yr olds don't wear size 6. Kindergarten aged children do. That dress is not Caylee's. To assume so is ridiculous.

This has been discussed almost to death but here we will do it one more time, for the record. Disney is NOTORIOUS for making outfits that IMMEDIATELY shrink once placed in the dryer. Also, little girls who like to play dress-up can lead to a LARGE chunk of change. SO, a frugal mother/grandmother, may buy a dress in a size that is bigger than is needed so that it can be used for a longer period of time-I mean-come on, this was for playing dress up not going to church. Also, in another thread about this, we had a mother to post a picture of her daughter, who was 3 years old and wearing a size 6 Disney costume dress, and she even got the dress out and verified that it was a size 6. So, there is no way to establish that Caylee did not have a size 6 Disney dress-having been purchased to "last a while", especially since it would have been replacing one that had obviously not lasted until her 2nd birthday. Also, these things aren't cheap, starting around $50.00, so buying one that could be used for a number of years would only be the "wise" thing to do, and with the financial problems that the Anthony's have admitted to themselves, it would seem that they would have attemtped to save money where they could.

 

[Truthwillsetufree]

It's about discussing with TRUTH, what factual truths we do know in this case, and Cindy purchasing an identical dress and lying to the public as Turbo stated is not factual known truth in this case - by anyone.

This is not a blogging forum, this is a sleuthing forum, theories are tossed around. You do not know the facts anymore than any of us other than what has been released, so you can not attack a poster just because you don't agree with the theory. Folks on this forum are nice, courteous, civil and respectful of one another. We care about each other, as it should be. It is easier to get along here than not to. None of us agree on everything but we disagree with each other with respect.

 

[Friday]

(Dork Alert) I didnt get the Tom Thumb thing. Is NeJame really short?

Yep he is really, really short , but I'm inclined to believe he's also an extraordinarily effective attorney who has only the best interests of his clients at heart and who would also like to retain a little of his dignity, despite CA and NG.

Just my opinion...

 

[JBean]

you guys can debate and argue all night long. But cut the personal attacks, snarky remarks and name calling of all the players.
Clean up your posts please so I don't have to.

thanks.