2009.02.18 ~ Father Reportedly Had a Fight Day Before Haleigh Disappeared.

[Law_girl41]

so if there was a fight and a gun was "stolen and ditched" whatever, did this person becomed very angry with RC and decide to steal the daughter for revenge,,,,,,,or planned either way. If Haleigh was taken, it possibly has something to do with the fight...I dont know. MOO!

 

[nursebeeme]

I would bet my life that Ron knows the name of the guy who supposedly had a fight with him over the stolen gun and knows a lot more about the situation. Makes me wonder if this isn't the "he" that Ronnie mentioned initially on the 911 call.

dude I hear ya! And could also be the reason LE is so close lipped about everything...and believe that she is alive but very worried for her safety. This person Ron argued with has been missing since the night before Haleigh went missing.... it is just making a lot of sense to me at this point that perhaps LE is trying to, thru their silence and refusal to even name this guy publicly, ferret him out or let him get cozy and slip up. Could also explain why they make a whole presser out of an increase in reward money...

someone please pass me some antigravity shoes as my head is spinning dudes!

 

[nursebeeme]

ETA.... this dude that fought with Ron would also, more than likely, know the best way to get him back.... thru his heart (which is how he referred to Haleigh)..

Please let this be over tomorrow and let Haleigh come home safe.

Goodnight peeps...

 

[Wise Old Owl]

dude I hear ya! And could also be the reason LE is so close lipped about everything...and believe that she is alive but very worried for her safety. This person Ron argued with has been missing since the night before Haleigh went missing.... it is just making a lot of sense to me at this point that perhaps LE is trying to, thru their silence and refusal to even name this guy publicly, ferret him out or let him get cozy and slip up. Could also explain why they make a whole presser out of an increase in reward money...

someone please pass me some antigravity shoes as my head is spinning dudes!

ITA and it could be THIS DUDE is being sought after by LP and RD - they'll get him.

 

[nursebeeme]

ITA and it could be THIS DUDE is being sought after by LP and RD - they'll get him.

are LP and RD really chasing this guy down????? That is wonderful if true!

 

[SuziQ]

Didn't we connect him to MC's mom? Lisa Carman Croslin (Overstreet) - thought maybe it was her maiden name? That would make him an UNCLE to MC not a cousin tho. Oh wait, maybe the Sr. is mom's brother - that would make the Sr (father) MC's uncle and and and

he would be MC's cousin!!!!!!!!!!!

I think this is a lyric to a country song.....

 

[shadow of my mind]

Didn't we connect him to MC's mom? Lisa Carman Croslin (Overstreet) - thought maybe it was her maiden name? That would make him an UNCLE to MC not a cousin tho. Oh wait, maybe the Sr. is mom's brother - that would make the Sr (father) MC's uncle and and and

he would be MC's cousin!!!!!!!!!!!

If RSO Overstreet is a JR, yes he could very well be Misty's counsin but that still dosen't tell us how Brandon would connect to Misty.
I need to read the rest of the dockets and see if anything is useful. Could this jailbird be Brandon's father?

I did see this in the one arrest record I was looking at in Putnam.
2003-11-03 92 ORDER TO SHOW CAUSE ISSUED BY COLUMBIA CO SHERIFF'S

That mean he was into something down in Columbia County as well.
I did a search on there site and nothing shows up. May have been a juvie record.

If Sr Overstreet is 60 he could actually be Lisa's father but in large families it's commen for there to be 20 or more years between siblings so it is really hard to tell. Wish we know if Lisa was married to a Carman or she was given a family name as a middle name or since Carmen is a spanish female name it just might be her regular middle name.

My

 

[Wise Old Owl]

are LP and RD really chasing this guy down????? That is wonderful if true!

IDK - Just I heard the LP is still there on Sunday and last he said that RD was going to join him. I think LE asked for their help but made they go "black" on the media. These are the exact type of people that they deal with all the time and I think they are just having themselves a heyday! Notice you haven't seen him at all in almost a week? Even with the big doc dump today he wasn't on NG. Of course this is just my opinion - but that's my story and I'm stickin' to it! lol

 

[winterrose]

Also,in Ronald's first interview in the yard,a close up of his hand,it looked like he had been in a fight,next day bandaid on back of his neck.It was really scraped up.I have been trying to find the full video of that yard scene when he as w/his Mom and crying,then bio Mom was patting his back in yard.Anyone have a link to that?

 

[blubuni99]

I would bet my life that Ron knows the name of the guy who supposedly had a fight with him over the stolen gun and knows a lot more about the situation. Makes me wonder if this isn't the "he" that Ronnie mentioned initially on the 911 call.

That what I immediately thought when I heard that he had a fight, ect. I was like "he probably thought that guy came back and took his daughter and THATS why he was screaming about finding the guy (who took Haleigh) and killing him..." It makes sense to me. IMO :crazy:

 

[winterrose]

Swag,Do you mean Rob?

 

[SuziQ]

Has this been posted here yet?

http://www.jacksonville.com/news/metro/crime/2009-02-16/story/search_for_haleigh_scales_back

Croslin also told the Times-Union that the day Haleigh disappeared, she told authorities a cousin who had been staying in Crescent City for about a month went back to Tennessee. She said the cousin had “messed with” her sexually when she was a child but not been deemed a sexual offender.
The cousin had visited the mobile home she shared with Cummings but was told not to come back when a gun in the house turned up missing around the same time, she said.

 

[winterrose]

Shadow,Brandon turned 18 Feb.4th,I think and James is in his 30's.I would say cousins.

 

[winterrose]

Has this been posted here yet?

http://www.jacksonville.com/news/metro/crime/2009-02-16/story/search_for_haleigh_scales_back

Croslin also told the Times-Union that the day Haleigh disappeared, she told authorities a cousin who had been staying in Crescent City for about a month went back to Tennessee. She said the cousin had “messed with” her sexually when she was a child but not been deemed a sexual offender.
The cousin had visited the mobile home she shared with Cummings but was told not to come back when a gun in the house turned up missing around the same time, she said.

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Wow,thank you,this gives us alot more info.So,this wouldn't be James Overstreet then.She says a cousin who had been there a month and went back to Tennessee,so I'm thinking Brandon or Pacey.

 

[Kimster]

IDK - Just I heard the LP is still there on Sunday and last he said that RD was going to join him. I think LE asked for their help but made they go "black" on the media. These are the exact type of people that they deal with all the time and I think they are just having themselves a heyday! Notice you haven't seen him at all in almost a week? Even with the big doc dump today he wasn't on NG. Of course this is just my opinion - but that's my story and I'm stickin' to it! lol

Holy Toothpicks! Wouldn't that be somethin'???

:bud::bud:

 

[momtective]

Okay, I know this goes on the Misty's family thread but I wanted to put it out here for those of you who are sleuthing for the cousin.
Misty's mom: Lisa Carman Overstreet
Misty's maternal grandmother: Virginia E. Snelling
Misty's maternal great grandmother: Mararet W. Kelly
Sorry, I have no paternal info.

 

[Brwnigirl]

Originally Posted by SuziQ
Has this been posted here yet?

Croslin also told the Times-Union that the day Haleigh disappeared, she told authorities a cousin who had been staying in Crescent City for about a month went back to Tennessee. She said the cousin had “messed with” her sexually when she was a child but not been deemed a sexual offender.
The cousin had visited the mobile home she shared with Cummings but was told not to come back when a gun in the house turned up missing around the same time, she said.

??? He got told not to come back b/c the gun went missing. Makes you wonder why Misty would let the cousin "who messed with her sexually" around little children. That was okay, but taking the gun was just too much!!

 

[Leila]

Misti said the cousin that took the gun molested her. Brandon is her age. I don't think that is who she is talking about. The SO in Putnam with the same last name, that could be.

I just posted a link to an article in the thread on Ron's children, and in that article, dated today, Misty says her cousin "messed" with her but wasn't charged.

 

[cheko1]

Seems strange to me that someone would just throw his gun into a ditch. How was they lucky enough to find the gun in a ditch?

Whoever found the gun should be out looking for Haleigh! They have good eyes for sure.

 

[winterrose]

You know something,if a person threw a gun in ditch,he was afraid he'd be caught with a gun,so why would he be afraid if he took a gun,but didn't drop Haleigh off if he took her?That doesn't make any sense.I would think it's a bigger deal to take a child than a gun.