2009.03.24 Nancy Grace

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  • #121
I live in Tampa and while we have a lot of nudie bars out by the stadium, it's by no means a cultural thing. You can go to clubs in Tampa or in Enid, Oklahoma and see skankily-dressed girls kissing each other. I have never once seen a job posting seeking these girls when there are plenty of hussies out there willing to do it for free.

Those images do not seem to be professional, or of professional girls. If they are, the photographer needs to work on his/her technique and they could do with better talent.

All respect intended.
 
  • #122
IMO, this is a Halloween party.

http://sprocket-trials.blogspot.com/2008/09/casey-anthony-never-ending-story.html

Follow the link. There are 5 pics from this party. The first one shows Casey at a front door with a Halloween sign on it. One shows a guy in a possible pirate costume, and a guy in some kind of sports jersey.
Lanie

I watched NG for a second time tonight and listened to the guy who actually gave these pictures to the media. It was a Halloween party in 2006 and this guy was there. He said the party got pretty wild.
 
  • #123
Caller asking about xanax or chloroform being used over a period of time.

Expert: would show up in hair but not if used just once at time of death.

That is great news. If she was drugging Caylee regularly for any length of time, even days, then it is going to show.

I hope the judge makes them answer the question!

I hope so too.

NG talking about if KC's lawyers get her statements about Zanny the Nanny suppressed then they will not be allowed at trial.

God forbid!

Just saw NG. Once again, no bombshell pictures, just the same old pictures that were here on Websleuths back at the beginning of the case. The pictures are very obviously either work or an audition for work, not random partying. The girls are providing entertainment. It is a form of entertainment which is so commonplace in most places now that it's not even just for guys anymore, groups of young people, guys and girls, often go to strip bars and see lap dances and everything. At least it is very commonplace in Tampa and Orlando.

That's what the girls were doing in these pictures, including KC. They were doing a kind of "lingerie show" (as it is often called), which sometimes but not always may include a certain amount of lapdancing and/or even stripping. Usually it's either in a strip bar or at a private party for a guy's birthday or stag party, etc. At this particular party, (when you see all the pictures) it appeared that the girls were not stripping but were doing lapdances and suggestive softcore girl-on-girl poses for the guys to photograph. It appeared to either be someone's birthday party or something, or else maybe a kind of audition for a slot as a party entertainer or "lingerie model". The guys are in plain clothes, fully dressed, only the girls are dressed up to perform.

How Nancy G and the other people on her show can watch this and think it's just free "partying" cracks me up. Like the girls would put on this ridiculous show putting on these kind of costumes, poses and lapdancing and everything for themselves. :) Of course on the NG show they cropped almost all of the guys out of the pictures, making it look like it was just KC at some party making out with one of her female friends. There were actually a whole lot of girls working the party (or participating in this audition), it looked in the pictures like maybe 15+ girls IIRC. Some of them would be doing poses and lapdances while others took a break and were just sitting and talking.

Once again, NG went on and on about how this "out of control partying" somehow indicated Casey's neglect of Caylee and how "incriminating" (?) these photos are. Do NG and crew honestly think that being a lingerie model, party hostess in this type of work, or even a stripper for that matter, makes someone more likely to be a murderer? It has absolutely nothing to do with it. Hundreds of young women do this sort of work in Orlando and Tampa, they are moms, daughters, sisters, often students. Not that I would recommend this line of work to a young woman but the reality is, a lot of young women do work in this kind of job. These particular pictures were from back in 2006 if I recall correctly. Just like last week when the NG show continually showed the pictures from KC's 21st birthday in 2007 (like the one where she's opening her mouth with it full of food to gross out her friend) and kept saying they showed KC doing a "dance of joy after having murdered her child." Unbelievable.

Having a thing happen regularly does not make that thing right, or good or decent. As a country, it has become commonplace that anything that we "see" all the time becomes acceptable, and I apologize, but there is nothing acceptable about Casey or any of the things that she was doing. She is not a decent, moral, ethical, hardworking young woman trying to do her best in life. She is an indecent, immoral, unethical, lazy, young woman who was going absolutely nowhere in life, and she was getting there at lightning speed. There is a time and a place for everything. If Casey had desires to "be" with other women, then she should have done that in private, without cameras and onlookers. If she wanted to be a loser she should have seen to it that her child was looked after and cared for and should not have used her as a handy "bargaining chip" to gain favors from her parents. There is a vast difference between young people just having a good time and what Casey has done. And again, to reiterate, just because a thing happens "all the time" does not make it right. Murders happen every day, and seldom are they "right". Likewise, the new lewd and wanton party scene is not necessarily the thing that is the RIGHT thing...I think back in the day this type of "party" was referred to as an orgie, where sex was likely to break out between any random number of people. Now, because it "happens all the time" and there is a new age of "swingers" etc, it has all somehow become acceptable? Well, not to this old girl, and not to many of the young folks that I am associated with. This is a certain type of "group" dynamic, and I am thankful that it is not the group that I would ever choose to be a part of-now OR then...
 
  • #124
Some of the pictures we were talking about I still say look totally like working fun, not just fun fun (the "cards" costume photo shoot thing, those were the ones I was commenting on that NG aired tonight thinking they were a "bombshell".) Now some of the pictures are just partying. :) Casey is definitely not the only one doing it, nor is she the wildest. In the Fusian pictures, she looks about the tamest. :)

Maybe she was working for tips?

VB
 
  • #125
I just had a thought. I live in FL and have gotten many counterfeit $10 bills as change from fast food place, Publix, and even at the kids high school. Since KC is a computer person and hasn't had a job in years, could she have been making funny money to help supplement her thefts? Could they trace that on her computer? Who would ever think that the FBI would have access to your computer.
Not a far reach considering George said she had a deposit slip made up showing a $4,000 deposit that she never really put in their account. I would think we would have heard about this by now, but you never know.
 
  • #126
Just saw NG. Once again, no bombshell pictures, just the same old pictures that were here on Websleuths back at the beginning of the case. The pictures are very obviously either work or an audition for work, not random partying. The girls are providing entertainment. It is a form of entertainment which is so commonplace in most places now that it's not even just for guys anymore, groups of young people, guys and girls, often go to strip bars and see lap dances and everything. At least it is very commonplace in Tampa and Orlando.

That's what the girls were doing in these pictures, including KC. They were doing a kind of "lingerie show" (as it is often called), which sometimes but not always may include a certain amount of lapdancing and/or even stripping. Usually it's either in a strip bar or at a private party for a guy's birthday or stag party, etc. At this particular party, (when you see all the pictures) it appeared that the girls were not stripping but were doing lapdances and suggestive softcore girl-on-girl poses for the guys to photograph. It appeared to either be someone's birthday party or something, or else maybe a kind of audition for a slot as a party entertainer or "lingerie model". The guys are in plain clothes, fully dressed, only the girls are dressed up to perform.

How Nancy G and the other people on her show can watch this and think it's just free "partying" cracks me up. Like the girls would put on this ridiculous show putting on these kind of costumes, poses and lapdancing and everything for themselves. :) Of course on the NG show they cropped almost all of the guys out of the pictures, making it look like it was just KC at some party making out with one of her female friends. There were actually a whole lot of girls working the party (or participating in this audition), it looked in the pictures like maybe 15+ girls IIRC. Some of them would be doing poses and lapdances while others took a break and were just sitting and talking.

Once again, NG went on and on about how this "out of control partying" somehow indicated Casey's neglect of Caylee and how "incriminating" (?) these photos are. Do NG and crew honestly think that being a lingerie model, party hostess in this type of work, or even a stripper for that matter, makes someone more likely to be a murderer? It has absolutely nothing to do with it. Hundreds of young women do this sort of work in Orlando and Tampa, they are moms, daughters, sisters, often students. Not that I would recommend this line of work to a young woman but the reality is, a lot of young women do work in this kind of job. These particular pictures were from back in 2006 if I recall correctly. Just like last week when the NG show continually showed the pictures from KC's 21st birthday in 2007 (like the one where she's opening her mouth with it full of food to gross out her friend) and kept saying they showed KC doing a "dance of joy after having murdered her child." Unbelievable.


I hope those guys didn't pay much for that service!

Ewwwwww! Grosss!
 
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