2009.05.19. Casey Anthony Civil Hearing @ 10:00

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  • #241
She dinna do what you think she do. KB was already out the door and Cindy pointed (with her index finger:) ) at someone as she left.

As I have watched it back and forth now I don't know how many times, I do realize KB was indeed already out the door. As for the finger pointing, still not convinced on that one, goes by too fast and when I do get it to stop right on the money pic it is all fuzzy, so in conclusion, not sure what finger she is pointing with. Why didn't she just wave with her hand?
 
  • #242
I've been wondering the same thing. Perhaps I'm naive, but I would think BC would strongly caution the A's to be on the straight and narrow with all of their assets. Not only because of the pending defamation suit against their daughter, but also because they are attempting to fund their CMA foundation.

I would think any blanketing of their assets under the foundation would subject them to some type of fraud and the potential loss of the foundation.:waitasec:

Greed can lead people down a very dark path, as lin stated earlier, when the A's money sources are revealed there will be jaws all over the floor. BC (imo) is not a very sharp attorney, and even if he did advise C&G what to do/not do they do not take kindly to advice. It will be interesting to see how this plays out. But, as of right now, Cindy has not been named in the lawsuit, is that correct?
That leaves George and Lee in the clear if she has been named.
 
  • #243
She dinna do what you think she do. KB was already out the door and Cindy pointed (with her index finger:) ) at someone as she left.

It sure didn't look like an index finger to me... and I've watched it over, and over again.. CA is quite the LADY isn't she..
 
  • #244
Punitive damages are, in general, increases to the base damage award, usually by 2x's or 3x's, etc., (I haven't looked up FL's statute yet so...) Example: damages w/o punitives tacked on is $100,000, but with a statute allowing 2x's, it jumps to $200,000, 3x's to $300,000...you get the point.

Since a negligent action is generally one where there was no malicious intent on the part of the wrongdoer/tortfeasor, most states do not alloow punitive damage awards, as the wrongdoer didn't mean to harm the plaintiff.

However, most states do have statutes in place awarding punitive damages in certain, limited instances, including intentional torts, since the wrongdoer/tortfeasor intended to hurt the victim/plaintiff, and also in the areas of toxic waste (think Clean Air/Water Acts), other inherently dangerous things, etc.

In summation, it's a statutory difference that governs the level/degree of damages that are possible, and in FL, pursuant to FL Section 768.72, which I pulled from ZG's recently filed proffer, p. 4 of 8, here: http://www.forthepeople.com/Zenaida_Proffer_in_Support_of_Punitive_Damages.pdf, punitives are allowable for the intentional tort of libel/slander. The basic idea is to met out more severe punishment to those who intentionally cause harm to others than those who unintentionally cause harm to others.

Thanks very much, Chez. I appreciate it.

I will go read that.

Forgive me for my evil thoughts - I've always felt badly for ZFG, and the continued damage was quite intentional, IMO.

I'm also hoping that this case teaches them a few lessons and that no one else, i.e. JG, gets kicked around further.
 
  • #245
As I have watched it back and forth now I don't know how many times, I do realize KB was indeed already out the door. As for the finger pointing, still not convinced on that one, goes by too fast and when I do get it to stop right on the money pic it is all fuzzy, so in conclusion, not sure what finger she is pointing with. Why didn't she just wave with her hand?

I have watched it over and over. I'm saying middle finger, not index.

:eek:

(sorry to disagree, Debs.) :)
 
  • #246
As I have watched it back and forth now I don't know how many times, I do realize KB was indeed already out the door. As for the finger pointing, still not convinced on that one, goes by too fast and when I do get it to stop right on the money pic it is all fuzzy, so in conclusion, not sure what finger she is pointing with. Why didn't she just wave with her hand?

It's like that queen wave (you know, elbow elbow wrist wrist wrist) without all those extra muscles being used. Just a flick of the finger (INDEX!!!) and she's gone.
 
  • #247
It sure didn't look like an index finger to me... and I've watched it over, and over again.. CA is quite the LADY isn't she..

I'm not one to point fingers....hehehehe, yes, I am, and have been known to shoot the bird on occasion but by golly I have never done it in a courtroom and when I was trying to pass myself off as truthful innocent bystander.
 
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It's like that queen wave (you know, elbow elbow wrist wrist wrist) without all those extra muscles being used. Just a flick of the finger (INDEX!!!) and she's gone.

Awww the CA Wave, very unlike mine, the grab ya, hug ya, give ya a smooch and ask ya where ya been lately? No mistaking my hello for the Bird Shot!
 
  • #250
No b/c thanks to KC there aren't any more babies to split..what is that????? OMG it's splitting HAIRS not babies. I'm going to run and hide, this is ridiculous. That comment struck a nerve..sorry.:mad:


Exactly!
Splitting hairs ..
Splitting babies???

Never even heard that one .. :waitasec:
 
  • #251
Hard to tell - the buffering thing covered up her hand and I am not sure I got the precise second, but here she is raising her hand from her side:

25quas2.jpg


The facial expression - Queenly like Marie Antoinette Queenly?

Let them eat cake!

(s'ok - I think some crow will be served up soon.)
 
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  • #253
That was definitely Cindy flipping the bird...not a wave
 
  • #254
MOO

George and Cindy are ticked because, to them, they are the only two people in the world who 'get' that KC has done nothing wrong.

What George and Cindy don't 'get' is that their entire attitude is, literally, going to kill their daughter.

MOO

It's starting to look like that is exactly what they're doing ..

Intentional?
Perhaps ..
 
  • #255
Hard to tell - the buffering thing covered up her hand and I am not sure I got the precise second, but her she is raising her hand from her side:

25quas2.jpg


The facial expression - Queenly like Marie Antoinette Queenly?

Let them eat cake!

(s'ok - I think some crow will be served up soon.)
I am really having trouble making it out...are you watching this from the WFTV site ?
 
  • #256
Hard to tell - the buffering thing covered up her hand and I am not sure I got the precise second, but her she is raising her hand from her side:

25quas2.jpg


The facial expression - Queenly like Marie Antoinette Queenly?

Let them eat cake!

(s'ok - I think some crow will be served up soon.)

HEH HEH-This is going to turn into the Anthony version of the Zapruder film from Dallas!:crazy:
 
  • #257
Hard to tell - the buffering thing covered up her hand and I am not sure I got the precise second, but her she is raising her hand from her side:

25quas2.jpg


The facial expression - Queenly like Marie Antoinette Queenly?

Let them eat cake!

(s'ok - I think some crow will be served up soon.)

Yes, same here with the buffering thing....one would think if she was waving her hand would be turned on the top side but if one is flipping the bird it is easier to do with the underside or palm side up.
Anywhooo. CA had to put her big girl panties on today!
 
  • #258
I am really having trouble making it out...are you watching this from the WFTV site ?

Yes, and it is really hard to grab, because it is literally split-second.

I'll try a better cap later without the buffer line there. Watching it, I think middle finger, not index.
 
  • #259
Right before she exits the court room her fist closes pretty tightly, looks like she is thinking about knocking "someone" out. This is after the finger shot...
 
  • #260
OMG! OMG! OMG!
Watched the video clear to the end and could not believe my eyes.
Go see for yourselves, what I see CA doing and I believe it is aimed at K. Belich, the reporter, and in a court of law, no less.
It is at 31:11-31:12 in the time frame of the video., it goes fast.(I'm so glad her "faith" is helping her through this ordeal)sarcasm and lots of it!
If I could do a screen shot without blowing the margins I would! If someone else could do it I would appreciate it!
http://www.wftv.com/video/19503363/index.html

I thought the exact same thing when I watched the video!:eek: I rewatched it a few times, but couldn't be sure and thought maybe I was seeing things. Happy to know others also saw it.
 
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