2009.07.20 Nancy Grace

[CarolinaMoon]

I loved the question ~ as if Casey will confess? Yeah, right.

They have her on VIDEO writing the checks and cashing one at the bank itself!

If she won't plead guilty to that, she'll never plead guilty to murder!

 

[panthera]

LP says nobody in the family was looking for Caylee.

Another great reason JB doesn't want him to testify!! :clap:

 

[cyberborg]

They have her on VIDEO writing the checks and cashing one at the bank itself!

If she won't plead guilty to that, she'll never plead guilty to murder!

Why change the habit of a lifetime?

 

[doogiesgirl]

I say try her now for the economic crimes. Then let ZG have a go at her. Maybe she'll get it thru her thick skull that this is the beginning of paying the piper and take a plea deal. JMO

 

[panthera]

They have her on VIDEO writing the checks and cashing one at the bank itself!

If she won't plead guilty to that, she'll never plead guilty to murder!

I know!! That's why I thought the question was a little ~ shall we say ~ wishful thinking? It's also why I definitely believe the state should proceed with the check fraud trial ASAP and get her in prison on that. There is no statute of limitations on murder. :behindbar MOO

 

[Intermezzo]

Another TH said prosecution may not even use him.

Baez refused to pay LP $1 to make privilege stick! He IS a cheapskate!!!

My comment: I don't think FL law even allows for a privilege agreement with bondsmen/bounty hunters anyway.
IIRC Baez actually allowed LP to sit in on a conference where they discussed ways to put JG under the bus. LP was the one who told JG about it.

BBM
This is what I read concerning your comment.
http://www.wesh.com/news/20079093/detail.html
snipped from article

"Defense lawyer Richard Hornsby said the agreements are worthless because Florida statutes do not allow attorneys and bail bondsmen to enter in to those types of confidentiality arrangements."

"Jose Baez should have never had a reasonable expectation that anything she said would be confidential or fall under the attorney client privilege and that's a big problem," Hornsby said. "He should have advised her right away -- don't say anything to anybody."

 

[doogiesgirl]

Does anyone know when the special on CA is going to be aired?

 

[cyberborg]

I say try her now for the economic crimes. Then let ZG have a go at her. Maybe she'll get it thru her thick skull that this is the beginning of paying the piper and take a plea deal. JMO

ITA. KC needs a good dose of reality. The SA is not the same as CA, you cannot wear them down with alternate mistruths.

 

[CarolinaMoon]

The defense is going to fight all the forensic evidence in the car... not a new thing...

They can fight EVERY PIECE OF EVIDENCE! What jury is going to believe LE and well respected scientists from the FBI, FDLE, and U. of Tenn. are ALL WRONG???

Should be interesting.

 

[watcher9]

On to the checks stolen from AH

Defense wants bad check trial delayed.

Excuse: (Drew Petromo) they are too busy with murder trial.

NG: That's BS!

Robin Sax: Trial will take no time at all. Real question is the economic resources that would be used on this trial. If DP trial prevails, it's a waste of money.

NG: Felony conviction would add aggravator for DP case.

In DP case without felony conviction, reputation witnesses could be used to talk about her good character. With a conviction, that would go out the window.

Baez paid the debt to the bank: $664 to Bank of America

BYM
I don't remember hearing this. Which debt did JB pay - AH or SP or CA or???

 

[shergal]

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BYM
I don't remember hearing this. Which debt did JB pay - AH or SP or CA or???

They said on the show that Baez paid the debt of $664 to Bank of America for AH.

 

[panthera]

They said on the show that Baez paid the debt of $664 to Bank of America for AH.

Well that was mighty kind of him but it doesn't excuse the fact that his client stole the money! :banghead: MOO

 

[watcher9]

They said on the show that Baez paid the debt of $664 to Bank of America for AH.

When did JB pay it? Was it his way to get AH off their back? Maybe to weaken the fraud case? Or have AH drop the charges?

 

[chefmom]

They said on the show that Baez paid the debt of $664 to Bank of America for AH.

Which is an admission of guilt, is it not? :waitasec:

 

[Jolynna]

BBM
This is what I read concerning your comment.
http://www.wesh.com/news/20079093/detail.html
snipped from article

"Defense lawyer Richard Hornsby said the agreements are worthless because Florida statutes do not allow attorneys and bail bondsmen to enter in to those types of confidentiality arrangements."

"Jose Baez should have never had a reasonable expectation that anything she said would be confidential or fall under the attorney client privilege and that's a big problem," Hornsby said. "He should have advised her right away -- don't say anything to anybody."

I can't believe Baez didn't advise her not to say anything to anybody.

Maybe KC didn't listen?

 

[panthera]

Which is an admission of guilt, is it not? :waitasec:

IMO, yes!! :behindbar

 

[Theonly1]

Methinks one of the reasons Baez & Co. do not want LP to testify is because LP (and Rob) allegedly heard Casey's story change from Caylee being "dropped off at Sawgrass" to "abducted from Jay Blanchard Park". A change in story is a big deal and I think this (as much as testimony about her demeanor) what is driving Baez's motion.

 

[Dear Prudence]

When did JB pay it? Was it his way to get AH off their back? Maybe to weaken the fraud case? Or have AH drop the charges?

Bank of America rec'd the payment on July 10, 2009. A copy of the letter acknowledging the receipt was included with Casey's motion objecting to going to trial for the check fraud. So, yes JB had an ulterior motive for paying it. Not sure what good it does, but I'm sure Lyons or some other experienced attorney made JB do it.

There's a copy of the letter here, see exhibit "D"

http://www.wftv.com/pdf/20090214/detail.html

 

[panthera]

Bank of America rec'd the payment on July 10, 2009. A copy of the letter acknowledging the receipt was included with Casey's motion objecting to going to trial for the check fraud. So, yes JB had an ulterior motive for paying it. Not sure what good it does, but I'm sure Lyons or some other experienced attorney made JB do it.

There's a copy of the letter here, see exhibit "D"

http://www.wftv.com/pdf/20090214/detail.html

Something wrong with paying it off after the charges are filed just to avoid the trial, imo. He knows she'd be convicted and wants it all to go away. That seems to be what her family has been doing all along ~ covering up so she won't be punished. :banghead: MOO.

 

[MaedchenX]

The defense is going to fight all the forensic evidence in the car... not a new thing...

They can fight EVERY PIECE OF EVIDENCE! What jury is going to believe LE and well respected scientists from the FBI, FDLE, and U. of Tenn. are ALL WRONG???

Should be interesting.

Agreed.

Indeed it will be very interesting to see how this plays out. Before Caylee was found disputing the evidence in the vehicle made perfect sense in creating doubt as to whether Caylee was in fact dead. That point is now moot. I can only understand the defense's attempts to discredit the trunk evidence if they intend to proceed with a SODDI defense rather than an accidental death. What would possibly be the point (other than trying to cast a shadow over LE) in asking a potential jury to believe that a deceased Caylee was never in her mother's vehicle if at the same time they would like them to buy into an accidental death theory?