2009.2.19 3 pm press conference FDLE Haleigh Cunmmings

[shadow of my mind]

I would think it had to be pretty henious to be on a GPS tracker. Unless, I am wrong, are all SO on them or only RSO in FL? Anyone know???

JMO: I think they should all be microchipped, castrated and sent to their own island to grow vegetation to feed themselves.

Not a bad thought. Nicer than what I think should be done with them.

 

[nursebeeme]

IIRC: when LE answered a question about SO being arrested for being out of his "zone" the reporter asked how big his "Zone" was and LE said 1 mile. Again, IIRC

YES... and then a reporter asked how far he lives from Haleigh and the shrf said, within a mile

 

[dax]

ITA. And if this were a rso it was most likely planned out ahead of time. I wonder what this guy did in the first place to be on a one mile gps tracking device?

Bolded by me..

Two offenders living with 0.5 miles of Haleigh's home.

Timothy Randolph Loucakis (SP) ...with info

http://offender.fdle.state.fl.us/offender/flyer.do?personId=27045

Kyle S Johns (SO) this one is straight up the street from
Haleigh's home...approx 10 houses.

http://offender.fdle.state.fl.us/offender/flyer.do?personId=8989

 

[Beyond Belief]

Anything is possible of course. After hearing of the cases of pregnant women having their unborns stolen from the womb we should be openminded to everything.
Being part of WS certainly does give one an education.

 

[swanniee11]

I think this whole one mile thing is a misunderstanding. LE said he lived WITHIN a mile of the cummings home. Not that he could go one mile.

here ya go http://www.wftv.com/video/18752533/index.html :blowkiss: listen at 6:32

 

[MissOtk]

I posted this theory a couple days ago. I put it out there that perhaps a woman who is a distant 'acquaintance' such as a neighbor, church member, grocery store worker, mail delivery woman, has been watching this family quietly from afar. She thinks that Haleigh's home is unfit, dangerous, abusive. She knows about Misti, that she leaves the kids home alone at night. She possibly does not have or cannot have children of her own. She keeps close tabs on this house and knows Misti will be out for the night. She slips in and tells Haleigh something along the lines of, "I'm Jane, I'm your dad's friend. He has to work late tonight and Misti can't be here. He asked me to come take care of you." And Haleigh, having had a revolving door of caretakers, doesn't find this to be strange and willingly goes with her. Now this random woman is caring for Haleigh somewhere far away.

This sounds out there, I know, but I keep coming back to this possibility.

why would she leave Junior?

 

[lolype29]

"Originally Posted by NSC
I would think it had to be pretty henious to be on a GPS tracker. Unless, I am wrong, are all SO on them or only RSO in FL? Anyone know???

JMO: I think they should all be microchipped, castrated and sent to their own island to grow vegetation to feed themselves."


Not all SO'S are on GPS, most that are still on parole/probation are, but not all are seen as "a threat". If I am not mistaken, it is on a case by case basis, and decided based on the circumstances of the case.

I have a friend who is classified a SO, but he had consentual relations with a long time girl friend, they later that afternoon got in a fight and she claimed rape.. of course they believe the woman and he is now a SO... but doesn't have a GPS.

 

[lolype29]

why would she leave Junior?

Maybe she had "dreams" of having a little girl.... many women do!

 

[NRN]

Would someone plz verify, it looks like this Loucakis SO's crime was making child ? Is that correct?

New theory throwin' out here is: MC &/or RC was allowing lewd photos to be taken of HC, in exchange for drugs or money. Something went terribly wrong, but now they can't admit to it because they would go to jail.

 

[AuburnJenn]

why would she leave Junior?

She only wants/can handle one child? She only wants a daughter? Feels that the little girl is in more danger of being molested/abused?

Again, just throwing this out there...

 

[shadow of my mind]

As far as being able to put him anywhere near her residence. Lives about 1 mile.
10PM-6AM is his curfew. He was found to have not been in his home zone last night. We know where he was and we have a team going to the area to where he was to search as a precaution. LE did go back and look and saw that he was in his home zone on the evening of Haleigh’s disappearance. His home was searched at that time and he was checked on again later that morning around 10:00 AM on the same day. They are not excluding anybody as a person of interest.

The video stops for me before the sheriff gets into any of the comments he made about the distance. Is anyone else having the same problem.


EDIT: additional information; was able to get entire video to replay--balance of information regarding RSO.

Home zone is within a mile. Everything is showing that he was not near the residence at the time.

 

[lolype29]

Would someone plz verify, it looks like this Loucakis SO's crime was making child ? Is that correct?

New theory throwin' out here is: MC &/or RC was allowing lewd photos to be taken of HC, in exchange for drugs or money. Something went terribly wrong, but now they can't admit to it because they would go to jail.

Personally, I don't think that theory should go too far... that is sick and twisted (although I know it happens)... They just don't seem the type.

IMO, they are telling the truth, and some are fetching too far out there for a conclusion. I hope this story has a happy ending!

 

[AuburnJenn]

Would someone plz verify, it looks like this Loucakis SO's crime was making child ? Is that correct?

New theory throwin' out here is: MC &/or RC was allowing lewd photos to be taken of HC, in exchange for drugs or money. Something went terribly wrong, but now they can't admit to it because they would go to jail.

That is a truly terrible thought, but I think anything's possible. There has never been a real explanation about the bed-wetting, constantly missing school. After viewing these peoples' myspace pages, it seems that sexuality starts very young with them. Way too young.

 

[shadow of my mind]

"Originally Posted by NSC
I would think it had to be pretty henious to be on a GPS tracker. Unless, I am wrong, are all SO on them or only RSO in FL? Anyone know???

JMO: I think they should all be microchipped, castrated and sent to their own island to grow vegetation to feed themselves."


Not all SO'S are on GPS, most that are still on parole/probation are, but not all are seen as "a threat". If I am not mistaken, it is on a case by case basis, and decided based on the circumstances of the case.

I have a friend who is classified a SO, but he had consentual relations with a long time girl friend, they later that afternoon got in a fight and she claimed rape.. of course they believe the woman and he is now a SO... but doesn't have a GPS.

Statutory rape is one of the reasons that the numbers are so high for RSO. They are in a different category but do get lumped in with all of the others.

For the most part IMHO, these guys are not the ones the public needs to worry about. It happens a lot. Girls who do this make it so much harder to get predator rapist convicted and off the street.

 

[swanniee11]

That is a truly terrible thought, but I think anything's possible. There has never been a real explanation about the bed-wetting, constantly missing school. After viewing these peoples' myspace pages, it seems that sexuality starts very young with them. Way too young.

IMO, I can't make a big deal out of the bed wetting, many kids do that. Keep in mind there were changes in her life, father started 3rd shift, a new home, anything could have set that off, even medical reasons. From what everyone including neighbors said about Haleigh, she was always smiling and happy. again IMO

 

[scout35]

That is a truly terrible thought, but I think anything's possible. There has never been a real explanation about the bed-wetting, constantly missing school. After viewing these peoples' myspace pages, it seems that sexuality starts very young with them. Way too young.

Bold by me.

It has been said that the reason is due to Haleigh having Turners Syndrome. Of course no one can be 100% sure except for those close to Haleigh but it seems to be a very plausible reason IMO.

 

[dax]

IIRC: when LE answered a question about SO being arrested for being out of his "zone" the reporter asked how big his "Zone" was and LE said 1 mile. Again, IIRC

LE said.."within a mile" when asked by reporter is that "home zone within a mile of Haleigh's living area?"....

6 minutes 18 seconds into the interview


According to the FL sex offender website he lives 0.5 miles from Haleigh's address

 

[Beyond Belief]

Hubby said gps would have registered exactly where he went. He was probably home in bed. Not too much happening in Satsuma on weeknight.

 

[NSC]

I posted this theory a couple days ago. I put it out there that perhaps a woman who is a distant 'acquaintance' such as a neighbor, church member, grocery store worker, mail delivery woman, has been watching this family quietly from afar. She thinks that Haleigh's home is unfit, dangerous, abusive. She knows about Misti, that she leaves the kids home alone at night. She possibly does not have or cannot have children of her own. She keeps close tabs on this house and knows Misti will be out for the night. She slips in and tells Haleigh something along the lines of, "I'm Jane, I'm your dad's friend. He has to work late tonight and Misti can't be here. He asked me to come take care of you." And Haleigh, having had a revolving door of caretakers, doesn't find this to be strange and willingly goes with her. Now this random woman is caring for Haleigh somewhere far away.

This sounds out there, I know, but I keep coming back to this possibility.

I really would HOPE this would be the case over a SO. And this does/can happen!!

MO case where women had baby cut right out of her stomach!!

I have been apart of parenting message boards and have seen first hand how DESPERATE people get over lack of being able to have a child. Totally guestimating but let's say 1 out of 5 million might pull something like this??? I dont know...just guessing.... It is sad how good people are not able to have children; I know from talking to several people with fertility issues how frustrating it is for them to see people they don't deem to be fit parents, have children and they are unable to cope with why they are not. Someone who is not in stable mind could have taken Haleigh.

At this point I think almost ANYTHING could have happend to this little girl. So, if I seem to agree with a lot of you. My first feeling is SO But I pray not.

 

[NSC]

Steve Huff has a complete theory on the bedwetting on his website.

WWW.Truecrimereport.com