2010.01.15 Letter to Judge Strickland WFTV

[Intermezzo]

I LOVE Websleuths. We do it differently here. So.....back to the page 21 on the emails......does anyone else seem to think that the language is very ummmmmmmm similar? What I wonder.....did someone read the emails and copy the info? or Was the author of the letter the same person??? DOn't want to drag others into it but I find this very curious.

I've read the letter and the emails and they are similar, at least to me, high probability it is the same person..

I wonder why the author "a Concerned Citizen" wasn't concerned enough to give the Judge their name.

 

[MyTinkieGirl]

This sounds familar to me...

"The prosecution has selectively excerpted what is convenient to paint Casey as a liar and bad person, but in reading her transcripts she doesn't actually lie most of the time but is misquoted and interupted constantly and railroaded, and what she has said has been contorted and taken out of context."

http://www.wftv.com/pdf/22246396/detail.html

Reminds me of Cindy's depo (Morgan) when she says "they are doing the same thing to me that they did to Casey, not letting her speak".

I had this whole rambling post put together to discredit the points from this latest letter....but...IMO, it's most amusing that the letter writer said the quote posted above, when in actuality, the person who SUBMITTED the letter is the one doing the "selective" excerpting...the SA released ALL the results from ALL the testing and evidence gathered in its ENTIRETY....sorry, still too early on a Saturday for me....LOL

ITA with all the posts on here made about this letter....it was written in pieces as docs came out...AND from info taken from posts made here....most likely from diff people.

I don't know if these wacko's realize that KC isn't as dumb as she looks....what was she doing for 8+ hours a day for those "31 days"?? Most likely researching info to "fit" her story....OR, trying to figure out how to open a box of Velveeta or decide what pizza place to order from...

Just one more thing about the Dr. Lee comments in the letter...IIRC, and IMO, NG sort of put him "on the spot", so to speak, about the results from the trunk and the odor analysis results AND the stench. He was basically talking about small pieces of ham in "general" of what one would almost EXPECT to find in garbage, IMO...it didn't EVER seem he was too serious about those comments.
He didn't mention a "whole pig" in the trunk....so when the results are given as "consistent" with human decomposition, the "animal" origin part, IMO, is just so that the defense CAN'T say that the prosecution is being "one sided" and didn't give any alternative possibilities.


PS....IMO, I think the "JD" stands for what the author of the letter was drinkin' when they put that mess together.

 

[MyTinkieGirl]

Oh....and where is the RK theory in this letter...never mind....that'll be in "Regurgitation Part Deux"

 

[Tulessa]

I had this whole rambling post put together to discredit the points from this latest letter....but...IMO, it's most amusing that the letter writer said the quote posted above, when in actuality, the person who SUBMITTED the letter is the one doing the "selective" excerpting...the SA released ALL the results from ALL the testing and evidence gathered in its ENTIRETY....sorry, still too early on a Saturday for me....LOL

ITA with all the posts on here made about this letter....it was written in pieces as docs came out...AND from info taken from posts made here....most likely from diff people.

I don't know if these wacko's realize that KC isn't as dumb as she looks....what was she doing for 8+ hours a day for those "31 days"?? Most likely researching info to "fit" her story....OR, trying to figure out how to open a box of Velveeta or decide what pizza place to order from...

Just one more thing about the Dr. Lee comments in the letter...IIRC, and IMO, NG sort of put him "on the spot", so to speak, about the results from the trunk and the odor analysis results AND the stench. He was basically talking about small pieces of ham in "general" of what one would almost EXPECT to find in garbage, IMO...it didn't EVER seem he was too serious about those comments.
He didn't mention a "whole pig" in the trunk....so when the results are given as "consistent" with human decomposition, the "animal" origin part, IMO, is just so that the defense CAN'T say that the prosecution is being "one sided" and didn't give any alternative possibilities.


PS....IMO, I think the "JD" stands for what the author of the letter was drinkin' when they put that mess together.

LMAO! :dance::dance::dance::dance:

 

[knt]

So....if this letter is supposed to tell us what really happened....then under the same consideration..... I could craft a letter insisting that I know KC to be guilty and point out discovery already released, offer expertise in everything and say I am a "universal consultant", and validate any investigations thus far.

(BBM) We already have a "Pretend Universal Event Planner" in this case. I'm not sure poor JS can keep it all straight. How about "Consultant Extraordinaire" or maybe just "Letter Writer with a Brain"?

 

[ZsaZsa]

:laugh:
Narcissism at it's finest, eh?

The Anthonys' collective middle name.
Narcissus, that is.

 

[ZsaZsa]

I've read the letter and the emails and they are similar, at least to me, high probability it is the same person..

I wonder why the author "a Concerned Citizen" wasn't concerned enough to give the Judge their name.

Maybe she's just not smart enough to do that?

 

[knt]

Maybe she's just not smart enough to do that?

:rolling: :dance: :rolling:

 

[seeing_eye]

This "researcher" says that she/he communicated personally with Wanda W.

In her own words (except that in parenthesis) as stated by the letter writer herself on the Internet:

(The letter writer) is a science and technology researcher and the president of (an organization) devoted to promoting awareness of toxins in our food and environment that can cause disease, and providing access to nutrition information, natural remedies, and alternative health resources.

 

[thedeviledadvocate]

Whether one believes this letter is comprised of rants and ravings of a madman, poorly written, or just plain crazy, it managed to touch base on many aspects of this case. It also really drives home the point of how much evidence we have yet to see. Generally speaking anything that comes about, that is not in the form of evidentiary documents released by LE or the Prosecution, that disputes the belief that KC is guilty, will be ridiculed and considered a plot to taint the jury pool by a desperate defense, in the court of public opinion. This letter will most likely be interpreted in this manner, and not be taken seriously. Personally, I find it an interesting read.

I was going to summarize my opinions about various aspects of the case. This letter just saved me a whole lot of time. Although I may not agree with each individual idea the writer submitted, in general, I find many of these ideas interesting, and mirror some of my own ideas about this case. One of our posters pointed out in a different thread that sometimes the most significant evidence is that which is missing. It seems the writer of this letter thinks there is a lot of evidence missing, or is being suppressed, or misinterpreted. Personally, I believe there will be much more evidence released before trial, and I think it will contain a lot of the information that this writer thinks is being suppressed at this time. I disagree with the writer in that I do not believe the prosecution or LE is guilty of gross misconduct or coercion or any bad faith acts. I do believe, however, that the prosecution is walking a very thin line in these areas. I also believe the defense is doing the same.

This letter is disturbing in that it summarizes and lays out nearly all the possible defense positions, in regards to most of the mountain of circumstantial evidence. No, it does not prove anything, it mostly just questions the validity of things like the hair with apparent decomp, etc. It raises many questions about whether or not LE’s performance in investigating all the evidence was thorough.

This letter mentions many things in regards to ZFG, and others that we have heard rumors about, yet have not seen any documentation. If LE has indeed been thorough in their investigation, I am certain that their findings will come out in future doc dumps, in regards to the names, addresses and occupations of those named in this letter. If someone not associated with the case can find this information, LE certainly should have been able to, and if they did, it simply has not yet been released.

It has been mentioned that much of what was stated in this letter has been debunked in our various threads. I believe that is true, to the extent that it has been debunked by the evidence we have available in the docs so far released. When future evidence is released however, we may find that some of these things mentioned were debunked without all the evidence available, and may need to be revised.

In a nutshell, this letter summarizes why I am of the opinion that the prosecution will not be able to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that KC is guilty of premeditated murder. Future doc releases, and the evidence provided at trial may certainly change this opinion.
As always, this entire post is my opinion only.

 

[RR0004]

It is my opinion that there is no place for someone...or some group...to presume that their opinion matters to the Court. To take it upon themselves to address the court in this manner is extremely inappropriate. There are many able bodied attorneys on the defense who will have their day in court. It's one thing to spout opinions on a website, but to direct this to the judge presiding over the case is most disturbing. I seriously question the mental health of those involved. They know no boundaries IMO.

 

[Rlaub44]

Whether one believes this letter is comprised of rants and ravings of a madman, poorly written, or just plain crazy, it managed to touch base on many aspects of this case. It also really drives home the point of how much evidence we have yet to see. Generally speaking anything that comes about, that is not in the form of evidentiary documents released by LE or the Prosecution, that disputes the belief that KC is guilty, will be ridiculed and considered a plot to taint the jury pool by a desperate defense, in the court of public opinion. This letter will most likely be interpreted in this manner, and not be taken seriously. Personally, I find it an interesting read.

I was going to summarize my opinions about various aspects of the case. This letter just saved me a whole lot of time. Although I may not agree with each individual idea the writer submitted, in general, I find many of these ideas interesting, and mirror some of my own ideas about this case. One of our posters pointed out in a different thread that sometimes the most significant evidence is that which is missing. It seems the writer of this letter thinks there is a lot of evidence missing, or is being suppressed, or misinterpreted. Personally, I believe there will be much more evidence released before trial, and I think it will contain a lot of the information that this writer thinks is being suppressed at this time. I disagree with the writer in that I do not believe the prosecution or LE is guilty of gross misconduct or coercion or any bad faith acts. I do believe, however, that the prosecution is walking a very thin line in these areas. I also believe the defense is doing the same.

This letter is disturbing in that it summarizes and lays out nearly all the possible defense positions, in regards to most of the mountain of circumstantial evidence. No, it does not prove anything, it mostly just questions the validity of things like the hair with apparent decomp, etc. It raises many questions about whether or not LE’s performance in investigating all the evidence was thorough.

This letter mentions many things in regards to ZFG, and others that we have heard rumors about, yet have not seen any documentation. If LE has indeed been thorough in their investigation, I am certain that their findings will come out in future doc dumps, in regards to the names, addresses and occupations of those named in this letter. If someone not associated with the case can find this information, LE certainly should have been able to, and if they did, it simply has not yet been released.

It has been mentioned that much of what was stated in this letter has been debunked in our various threads. I believe that is true, to the extent that it has been debunked by the evidence we have available in the docs so far released. When future evidence is released however, we may find that some of these things mentioned were debunked without all the evidence available, and may need to be revised.

In a nutshell, this letter summarizes why I am of the opinion that the prosecution will not be able to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that KC is guilty of premeditated murder. Future doc releases, and the evidence provided at trial may certainly change this opinion.
As always, this entire post is my opinion only.

BBM

That, in a nutshell, is the whole problem with this letter. It consists strictly of unsubstantiated rumors, made-up information, and personal opinions, wrapped in the guise of professional research.

If you have any information to substantiate the address of the real Juliette Lewis or Jeff Hopkins, or documentation that proves the hair banding cannot be from a deceased Caylee, please share it with us. Otherwise, why should we place any stock in any of this?

I could write a letter claiming that Caylee was really a boy, and is now being raised by the Ortiz family in the Hyatt hotel where he used to work as a doorman. If I cannot support any of it, what does it matter?

I worry that you give this letter too much credence simply because it supports your wish that KC not be guilty. That is not a logical reason to overlook all of the errors and imaginary research provided by this anonymous biologist. In my opinion, it's just not that smart to read the letter from that perspective.

 

[LambChop]

No signature. This person is neither proud of what they have written, nor do they believe it.

 

[Leila]

I'm scratching my head here trying to figure out what the composer of the letter thinks/expects Judge Strickland to do about his/her accusations. Are we to believe LE and the SA lied and dropped the ball to the extent the composer described in the letter. Not to mention lying and dropping the ball on a case/trial that many say will be the trial of the century. I think not.Unlike the composer, the state prosecutors are intelligent professionals.

From the very beginning, LE and the prosecution have been exceptionally professional. And also from the beginning, the Anthony family has been very critical of LE's investigation into the disappearance and murder of Caylee, initially trying to steer the investigation away from their daughter. They've tried to promote this as a kidnapped, missing child case, when in reality it's a murdered child case. Once Caylee's remains were found, they've accused LE of not investigating other friends and acquaintances thoroughly, and maintain that someone else murdered Caylee.

The Anthonys are desperate to paint their daughter as an innocent victim, and their desperation has only led to ridiculous claims that make her guilt more apparent.

There's been corruption in a few police agencies, but the Orange County Sheriffs Dept. has not done anything to even suggest one iota of a problem. It's wishful thinking on the part of the Anthonys that Casey is the victim of a a poorly handled investigation, or has been railroaded.

In this case LE and the prosecution are going to make sure that all their evidence is accurate and backed by proof. I have no doubt whatsoever that when we get to the trial, we're going to learn that contrary to the belief that we've seen all the evidence there is, we're going to learn things that LE and the prosecution has withheld........things that will tie their case up in a neat package.

LE and the prosecution did not drop the ball and we're going to see a professional presentation of the evidence backed by testimony and proof.

The more we see of this type of thing - a very unprofessional letter to the judge in the case - a very questionable tactic in terms of ethics, the more I'm convinced that there's a desperation on the part of the defense and those who support the defense to control the outcome of this case no matter what. Their desperation tells the story.

 

[joypath]

No signature. This person is neither proud of what they have written, nor do they believe it.

AMEN! Say what you mean and mean AND DEFEND what you say!.............and "our" hapless composer/author/transcriptionist of said letter isn't about to defend his/her statements.

 

[Phumi]

Whether one believes this letter is comprised of rants and ravings of a madman, poorly written, or just plain crazy, it managed to touch base on many aspects of this case. It also really drives home the point of how much evidence we have yet to see. Generally speaking anything that comes about, that is not in the form of evidentiary documents released by LE or the Prosecution, that disputes the belief that KC is guilty, will be ridiculed and considered a plot to taint the jury pool by a desperate defense, in the court of public opinion. This letter will most likely be interpreted in this manner, and not be taken seriously. Personally, I find it an interesting read.

I was going to summarize my opinions about various aspects of the case. This letter just saved me a whole lot of time. Although I may not agree with each individual idea the writer submitted, in general, I find many of these ideas interesting, and mirror some of my own ideas about this case. One of our posters pointed out in a different thread that sometimes the most significant evidence is that which is missing. It seems the writer of this letter thinks there is a lot of evidence missing, or is being suppressed, or misinterpreted. Personally, I believe there will be much more evidence released before trial, and I think it will contain a lot of the information that this writer thinks is being suppressed at this time. I disagree with the writer in that I do not believe the prosecution or LE is guilty of gross misconduct or coercion or any bad faith acts. I do believe, however, that the prosecution is walking a very thin line in these areas. I also believe the defense is doing the same.

This letter is disturbing in that it summarizes and lays out nearly all the possible defense positions, in regards to most of the mountain of circumstantial evidence. No, it does not prove anything, it mostly just questions the validity of things like the hair with apparent decomp, etc. It raises many questions about whether or not LE’s performance in investigating all the evidence was thorough.

This letter mentions many things in regards to ZFG, and others that we have heard rumors about, yet have not seen any documentation. If LE has indeed been thorough in their investigation, I am certain that their findings will come out in future doc dumps, in regards to the names, addresses and occupations of those named in this letter. If someone not associated with the case can find this information, LE certainly should have been able to, and if they did, it simply has not yet been released.

It has been mentioned that much of what was stated in this letter has been debunked in our various threads. I believe that is true, to the extent that it has been debunked by the evidence we have available in the docs so far released. When future evidence is released however, we may find that some of these things mentioned were debunked without all the evidence available, and may need to be revised.

In a nutshell, this letter summarizes why I am of the opinion that the prosecution will not be able to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that KC is guilty of premeditated murder. Future doc releases, and the evidence provided at trial may certainly change this opinion.
As always, this entire post is my opinion only.

*Bold and color change by Phumi*

I disagree. I believe that any statement that was supported by facts would be taken very seriously by most of the WS posters who already think KC is guilty.
For instance, if a man named Jeff Hopkins wrote a letter to the judge saying that ZFG was his ex-girlfriend and sitter, that she sat for Caylee as well, and that she had left town never to be heard from again sometime in the middle of June 2008, and all of that could be verified, I know I'd sit up and take notice.

 

[thedeviledadvocate]

BBM

That, in a nutshell, is the whole problem with this letter. It consists strictly of unsubstantiated rumors, made-up information, and personal opinions, wrapped in the guise of professional research.

If you have any information to substantiate the address of the real Juliette Lewis or Jeff Hopkins, or documentation that proves the hair banding cannot be from a deceased Caylee, please share it with us. Otherwise, why should we place any stock in any of this?

I could write a letter claiming that Caylee was really a boy, and is now being raised by the Ortiz family in the Hyatt hotel where he used to work as a doorman. If I cannot support any of it, what does it matter?

I worry that you give this letter too much credence simply because it supports your wish that KC not be guilty. That is not a logical reason to overlook all of the errors and imaginary research provided by this anonymous biologist. In my opinion, it's just not that smart to read the letter from that perspective.

I do not believe I have ever had a wish that KC would be found innocent. In fact, if she is guilty, I believe she should spend the rest of her life in prison. The only wish I have is that there could be one piece of physical evidence in this case, that could remove my doubts.This letter neither changed nor confirmed any of my opinions in this case. It merely represents a pretty good summary of many of my questions.

I have looked for some sort of confirmation that a hair with apparent decomp on it could be found in that trunk. Unfortunately for me, every bit of research I have done on this subject seems to suggest that the death band does not appear until 90 days after death. I realize that the FBI analyst states there is apparent decomp on the hair. In my research, I was trying to confirm the belief that there is indeed the possibility of a death band on the hair. I could not confirm this in my research. When that analyst is placed on the stand at trial, and while under cross examination, that analyst convinces me that the hair was from a deceased Caylee, that will pretty much close the case for me. The same goes for the Adicpocere. Like I said, I wish there was one piece of evidence that could erase my doubts. These two pieces if proven to be fact in court will successfully convince me. So, in essence, if one is certain the prosecution will prove all these questionable facts presented in the letter, to be facts that favor the prosecutions case, then this letter should in no way be problematic. moo

 

[JWG]

The letter gives a link to a publication that supposedly describes the production of chloroform from cleaning solutions and water. However, the link does not seem to go anywhere. Here is what I think the link is:

http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/es0622271

Did I read it correctly or not? A dead link won't do the judge much good.

 

[whiteangora]

It is my opinion that there is no place for someone...or some group...to presume that their opinion matters to the Court. To take it upon themselves to address the court in this manner is extremely inappropriate. There are many able bodied attorneys on the defense who will have their day in court. It's one thing to spout opinions on a website, but to direct this to the judge presiding over the case is most disturbing. I seriously question the mental health of those involved. They know no boundaries IMO.

bbm
This is a clue as to the self entitlement this person or persons seem to possess.
That letter might have been better placed in the Letters to the Editor section of the OS although I doubt they would have published it.

 

[Chiquita71]

Hello WS

I just wrote a post this week called "desperately seeking Juliette" because after all this time, I wonder where she is? Where is Zanny's mother? Where are the sisters, the roommates...etc.

Well, it looks like the author of this letter has found them! Great! Now, all that needs be done is for them to come forward. Or, I guess because they took Caylee they will not come forward so Cindy and George will be right up and following these leads and bringing these people to justice! I am sure Cindy and George and Casey's attys will be getting a hold of this author and getting those addresses so that Casey can get out of jail.

This is all true? I have no problem with that...now we should see things start to happen! These people all exist and if this author found out this information then Cindy and her private detective should have no problem.

I have been wondering this whole time whether or not Casey had appropriate behavior while Caylee was missing but now I see that she never did anything wrong before this...so that must mean she did not hurt Caylee.

Will Casey get to see this? I hope so, now she can come forward knowing that someone else has been able to follow all those leads she gave to LE and to Lee that they just could not or would not follow up on. Are they all in on it? Zanny, Samantha, Victor, Gloria...they must all be? I wonder what JH will have to say about all of this? I see by this letter JH has a wife, I wonder when he got married? Must have been after he broke up with Zanny and had her babysit Caylee and Zach that he met her and married her.

Okay Anthonys. Okay Casey. Okay JB. Here you go, all the information you wanted sleuthed by LE: handed to you on a plate. I am sure we will be hearing soon that George and Cindy are all over this, I know if my daughter were innocent and LE was trying to frame her by not following up on leads on the people who really hurt my granddaughter and I got word of leads: I would be right on that!

Great. Good. Grand. We don't need a trial for Casey. Let's go get these people! They exist and are just out there living, knowing that an innocent Casey is in jail. I wonder why they did take Caylee and hurt her? Now, we will find out the truth.

Obviously this is all sarcastic, but I do want to say: I don't WANT Casey to be guilty. I don't WANT it to be true that any adult ever hurts any child. I want to know why, what reason-other than pure evil-would LE and the FBI be wanting to frame an innocent mother? And, why couldn't Lee find these people? Why hasn't Cindy or George gone non stop to find these leads to help save their daughter? Why do strangers care more(the author of this letter)to investigate what Casey says is true than her own family. Shouldn't we have been getting this information from her family that knows she is innocent?

"but in reading her transcripts doesn't actually lie most of the time but is misquoted..." how is she misquoted? If all you have are the transcripts to go by how do you know she was "misquoted?" Hello, author? Please explain because there are a lot of people who want to know the truth of what happened to Caylee and you seem to have it all figured out.

"The story that keeps on changing is the prosecution's-when one scenario does not fit they move to another." I would like an example for this one, I have only known the prosecution to have one story: Casey did it. While the defense has had story after story...

"I have been able to confirm almost everything she said although the police have apparently not." Okay. One more time...well, then everything should be getting cleared up now-right? Way to go citizen. Way to go...

...jmo...