2010.03.18 KC's indigency hearing #1

[ButForFortune]

This may be off topic. If so I apologize. I remember at Caylee's memorial service that George said he wore a violet shirt because it was Caylee's favorite color.

I don't know. For some reason it just irritates me that he's now saying it's "his" color now. It's like taking away everything that used to be Caylee specific and making it their own. :banghead:

Sorry for the mini rant.

I'm actually think it reflects kindly on George that he wears Caylee's favorite color. I still believe George has been saddened the most by Caylee's death. And it is certainly better than wearing the shamrocks and green sweaters for Casey. JMO

 

[TigerTiger]

Two things.

Ex-Casey atty Terry Lenamon's post really does have some good stuff in it - links to info re right to counsel and how thats grown over the years to cover all sorts of indigent cases.

http://www.deathpenaltyblog.com/cas...rida-pay-casey-anthony-lawyer-fees/index.html

And, as for book deals, Diane Fanning already wrote Mommy's Little Girl and she didn't share any of that profit with Casey Anthony or her family or her lawyers.

http://search.barnesandnoble.com/Mommys-Little-Girl/Diane-Fanning/e/9780312365141

Have to go now. Jane VM just started. What's this about Casey writing notes to another inmate? This stuff just never ends.

 

[cecybeans]

IIRC, Andrea said she raised $70 for her clinic. I took that to mean for its entire operation, for other cases, not simply the one she has spent so much time working on.

And she did not indicate she was using KC as a reason for fundraising, which I doubt at this point would have garnered any corporate donations.

This money, fuelling the use of her clinic, is also part of her pro-bono contribution to the case. It was not part of the original $275K that was actually part of KC's trust, and imo, should not be counted. I'm sure that TM and LKB could also supply an accounting of what they have personally donated in time and resources to this case, but that is not figured in to the monies KC had to hire her legal team.

The bottom line is that JB received $275K in direct funds that he cannot account for other than paying (perhaps, the statement was "paid or due to be paid") the $22K AL submitted as expenses. That leaves over a quarter million that is unaccounted for other than paying JB directly. I can't see he could have used $50K in the depos and experts he has used so far (HL and the autopsy guy from MI and perhaps an entymologist).

 

[beach]

i'm actually think it reflects kindly on george that he wears caylee's favorite color. I still believe george has been saddened the most by caylee's death. And it is certainly better than wearing the shamrocks and green sweaters for casey. Jmo

amen!

 

[passionflower]

JVM on ISSUES has the whole story on.............

 

[logicalgirl]

I appreciate MissLegalBeagle giving us the inside impression of what the courtroom was like and to the "best of what she wishes to tell us" about what went on from someone who was actually there.

We all watch on TV or our computers, but that's not the real taste of the day.

What MLB's personal views are on the actual individuals in the case are none of my business to judge, however I do appreciate hearing what she has to offer us.

Thanks again MLB- we all know there is more than one road that can be travelled - note the spirit of WS.

 

[ButForFortune]

:waitasec: In Baez's interview he states that all attorney's have a trust, he says all lawyers have a trust. A reporter asked if they had payed taxes on the money or if it was put into the trust, he didn't answer that question.

I wonder what this trust is for and can someone get the amounts in the trust? They are working pro-bono so why would they need a trust account? What money would go into the trust, if they are not recieving any? And if they are, where did the money come from? Seems as if we come back to the same question. Where did the money come from and where did it go?

(watch full interview) http://www.wftv.com/video/22878495/index.html

I believe they are referring to a Clients' Trust Fund. Although I work in a different state, any monies ADVANCED to an attorney prior to fees or costs being incurred such as through a retainer, etc., is deposited for the client's benefit. Very strict rules apply, we bill each month IN DETAIL as to exactly what was done to incur fees, and how much time it took. The bill is provided to the client, and we are then able to draw a check for the exact amount of the bill. We do this each and every month until no money remains in the Trust Fund. If the case ends and funds remain a final bill is prepared and the remaining money is refunded to the client. As a side note, VERY strict rules apply. The bank is aware that it is a trust fund, and if any discrepancies show up such as a check drawn on insufficient funds, the bank is obligated to notify the state bar association which immediately investigates. In my opinion something is not right that JB cannot provide an accounting of his time billed.:waitasec:

 

[Dear Prudence]

IIRC, Andrea said she raised $70 for her clinic. I took that to mean for its entire operation, for other cases, not simply the one she has spent so much time working on.

And she did not indicate she was using KC as a reason, which I doubt at this point would have garnered any corporate donations.

This money, fuelling the use of her clinic, is also part of her pro-bono contribution to the case. It was not part of the original $275K that was actually part of KC's trust, and imo, should not be counted. I'm sure that TM and LKB could also supply an accounting of what they have personally donated in time and resources to this case, but that is not figured in to the monies KC had to hire her legal team.

The bottom line is that JB received $275K in direct funds that he cannot account for other than paying (perhaps, the statement was "paid or due to be paid") the $22K AL submitted as expenses. That leaves over a quarter million that is unaccounted for other than paying JB directly. I can't see he could have used $50K in the depos and experts he has used so far (HL and the autopsy guy from MI and perhaps an entymologist).

BBM - Yes, she did say that and then she said: all of which went to this case.

 

[Sparky]

:waitasec: In court today it was said that ABC paid Casey $200,000, but ABC spokes woman said, The deal was done with an attorney representing several owners of copyrighted content, That attorney is Baez, she added. So are they claiming that Baez got paid the $200,000? And if so, would this not mean that the defense lied in court today? :waitasec::furious:

The deal was done with an attorney representing several owners of copyrighted content, ABC News spokeswoman Cathie Levine said. That attorney is Baez, she added.


Maybe, just maybe the A's rec'd the balance?

 

[Aedrys]

The deal was done with an attorney representing several owners of copyrighted content, ABC News spokeswoman Cathie Levine said. That attorney is Baez, she added.


Maybe, just maybe the A's rec'd the balance?

Probably. I bet they (and I mean Disney) was promising a payout upon acquittal when Casey answers a question that will be posed to her:

"So, Casey, you've been acquitted of the horrendous murder of your toddler daughter. What are you going to do now?"

"I'm going to Disney World!"

Great advertising, for sure. And it's right there in Orlando. It just makes me sick to my stomach that Disney by way of ABC gave money to this case. Just SICK! I hope they get smart and don't give one more cent!

 

[QueenD]

$$ being discused on JVM now.

 

[Just Jayla]

Shame on Roz!! I thought she stopped visiting on "the Monsters" (radio talk show for you non-locals) because she wanted to be viewed as a serious, professional journalist. Starting a rumor like that is hardly what I would call professional!!

It has been discussed here with a lot of if's and reservations, source was revealed here a couple of days ago, credibility level duly noted - It came up today because JB mentioned it, we gave it one last batting-around.
Once it is explored here, somebody's poop detector usuallly goes off pretty quickly.

 

[logicalgirl]

The deal was done with an attorney representing several owners of copyrighted content, ABC News spokeswoman Cathie Levine said. That attorney is Baez, she added.


Maybe, just maybe the A's rec'd the balance?

haven't I read somewhere that the owners of copyrighted content are Casey and Caylee? Remember at the time of the deal Caylee had yet to be declared dead.

 

[LiveLaughLuv]

Today under oath Andrea said $70,000 came from her law clinic, it's a non-profit org. What is a student procuring fund?

I heard her say $7,000 take that away from the $22,500..we you in the courtroom, Dear Prudence, I think everyone is under the wrong impression. The law students procured $7,000 for Alyon...

As far as I know and heard from TruTV's Vinny Politan, to date, Inmate Anthony received over $275,000 for her defense...

 

[ButForFortune]

Well, you would think that a lawyer who has practiced as long as he has would be aware of how inappropriate that comment was. I was repulsed by him and his jovial manner.

He behaved as though he had just received an invitation to some exclusive party where the "fun" (his words) just never stops. :furious:

I too got a horrible sick feeling listening to his interview. What is wrong with these people? "Fun" huh? To defend a young mother of murdering her child. Also said something to the effect of walking Casey out of court on his arm after she is acquitted of murdering Caylee. I bet Judge Strictland and the SA doesn't find this "fun" at all.

On another note - anyone else notice CM's "schtick" is pure southern good ol' boy? Isn't that kinda out of style these days? Somehow reminds of the '70s Smokey and the Bandit type stuff. (Maybe that still works in Florida?)

JMO

 

[nums24]

The deal was done with an attorney representing several owners of copyrighted content, ABC News spokeswoman Cathie Levine said. That attorney is Baez, she added.


Maybe, just maybe the A's rec'd the balance?

Is it possibly because the photos belonged to KC, CA/GA/LA and any other person KC was able to photos from that's why they were several owners of the copyrights ?

 

[TigerTiger]

I'm typing while keeping one eye on Jane VM Issues so maybe I've missed it ...

but here's my question:

who paid (paying) the taxes on all this cash that came in? If it was received in 2008, then tax returns filed in April 2009 should reflect that cash, right?

In all the testimony, I'm not hearing when the money was paid, or who exactly it was paid TO ... law firms? lawyer? casey? some kinda fund that was nonprofit or something?

And, shouldn't all this testimony talk about the net available after taxes were paid? Not the gross amt paid by ABC etc? Wouldn't that bolster the defense's argument?

Very curious.

 

[elementary]

I heard her say $7,000 take that away from the $22,500..we you in the courtroom, Dear Prudence, I think everyone is under the wrong impression. The law students procured $7,000 for Alyon...

As far as I know and heard from TruTV's Vinny Politan, to date, Inmate Anthony received over $275,000 for her defense...

Here's a quote from MSM which should put the confusion to rest:

Defense attorney Andrea Lyon estimated that she had spent $70,000 on the case from money she raised through her clinic, which supports the poor.

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/en...aylees-remains-were-found.html/comment-page-2

 

[Tiki]

I too got a horrible sick feeling listening to his interview. What is wrong with these people? "Fun" huh? To defend a young mother of murdering her child. Also said something to the effect of walking Casey out of court on his arm after she is acquitted of murdering Caylee. I bet Judge Strictland and the SA doesn't find this "fun" at all.

On another note - anyone else notice CM's "schtick" is pure southern good ol' boy? Isn't that kinda out of style these days? Somehow reminds of the '70s Smokey and the Bandit type stuff. (Maybe that still works in Florida?)

JMO

Remember way back when we discussed that JB was disrespectful for addressing JS as "Judge" instead of "Your Honor"?
Compared to what we saw today it was nothing!

I couldn't help contrasting this new guy with MN - HE is what I call professional . . .

 

[Sdavidson11]

Is it possibly because the photos belonged to KC, CA/GA/LA and any other person KC was able to photos from that's why they were several owners of the copyrights ?

I remember CA stating while at lunch with someone in LE to complain about YM and was secretly recorded CA stated that the photo of Caylee with her hand under her chin on the couch was a picture that she took. So I could see CA wanting some money for the pics. :furious: