2010.03.18 New High Powered Attorney Cheney Mason Joins DT *MERGED*

[Curious Me]

While I think they could go this route--I bet they will consider just tediously going over every shred of forensics information and boring the jury to death in the "OJ trial" type way. Did any of you watch that trial? My God, they had some forensics guy on the stand for days and days hashing and re-hashing the collection of evidence. All the minutiae PLUS the Mark Fuhrman "problem*" gave us the OJ not guilty verdict. (*Fuhrman was accused of planting the glove and being racist..the jury bought it!)

I can honestly see the OJ type of "defense" happening here. Smokescreens left and right. They won't even have to proffer the accident scenario. They'll say (insert southern drawl here) "why, shucks, we don't know why Caylee died. We're sorry she did..and though my client has not acted in the ways you deem "appropriate"--nothing puts Casey at the scene".

Granted...I think they will have a time of it tryng to explain Casey's goofy movie plot statements--but they will use a shell game strategy that will confuse the jurors. One juror is sure to fall in love with this new "folksy" attorney. He is a perfect choice...because JB is too smirky and dimwitted. We've got trouble with this new guy. Guaranteed.

:laugh: What you say is funny because I could see that happening too. The "folksy" attorney will demand the jury see his client as the "little lady" who was a good mom. Well...yes...the 31 days and she did go dancing...but somehow he'll spin it so it sounds innocent. I agree we may have trouble with this new guy. :raincloud:

It saddens and sickens me KC gets to have any hope at all. I can only watch this circus unfold. It seems no longer about Justice, but some kind of sick entertainment. Defense is going to put on a real good show, but in the end, there's nothing quaint about killing your child.

That said, I do have faith in the State and the Judge that they will be the voice of Caylee. IMO, KC will never be out of prison until the day she dies, and then we can all say one big HUGE WASTE IN UNISON.

 

[Misy]

:Welcome-12-june::Welcome-12-june::Welcome-12-june:

Hi Misy, and Welcome to Websleuths!!! Do not worry. This addition to the defense team is good news in my opinion. He has experience that Mr. Baez simply does not. He understands the procedures and the rules that Baez does not. He will be able to make a strategy, roll up his sleeves and get to work. Up until now the defense has been fumbling aimlessly. Now we have a captain to steer the ship. This is good news. We want Casey to get a fair trial and have a strong advocate and no appeal issues. We want one trial, the right way and with Mr. Cheney the new day makes that possible. It is all good.

Thank you for such a warm happy welcome, TWA ! I've been lurking here since July '08, so your opinion holds much weight with me.... and you've made me feel much better. I agree... wouldn't it be awful to have a rightful conviction only to have it overturned on appeal ?

Peace,
Misy.

 

[Bobbisangel]

Hi WS ~
I have to say I am very worried about this new addition to the defense team.
From what I hear of Cheney he possesses an air of superiority and has a fair amount of charisma. And why would any defense attorney in their right mind want to get hooked up with this case? I don't believe that any publicity is better than no publicity. I mean come on. Didn't Geragos' reputation suffer after representing SP ? I think this so called "dream team" just got threatening.
KC seemed to be very up-beat from what I saw of her recent court appearance.
Me thinks she's feeling a bit cocky these days and is probably planning her welcome home party.
Please tell me there's nothing to worry about ?
Thanks,
Misy.

No matter who they get on the side of the defense it won't matter. There is a ton of evidence and nothing that a defense attorney says will change that.
How do they explain the 31 days....the tape on Caylee's nose and mouth...the decomp in the trunk of the car....the smell of death....etc, etc, etc. How can they explain Casey out dancing and drinking and sleeping around while her daughter is missing? When that old man said he joined the defense team because he thought it would "be fun" I wanted to slap him. There is nothing fun about this baby girl being murdered by her own mother and what could be fun in trying to get Casey off instead of sent to prison for life. That old man probably has great grandchildren. I wonder if he would say the same thing if someone murdered his little great granddaughter! You can bet he wouldn't think the trial would "be fun!" Just that remark really turned me off on him.

 

[ynotdivein]

Tell me, our local members am I taking him all wrong or is he the classic big Tex?

RSBM. I too am very curious about this one, and on a related note, how does "big Tex" go over with Floridians? I know how they are viewed in California and in parts of the midwest (though to avoid time-out territory I will shorthand those views to "not very positively at all"), but how's he going to play to a FL jury?

:laugh: What you say is funny because I could see that happening too. The "folksy" attorney will demand the jury see his client as the "little lady" who was a good mom. Well...yes...the 31 days and she did go dancing...but somehow he'll spin it so it sounds innocent. I agree we may have trouble with this new guy. :raincloud:

RSBM2. I'd imagine there is a segment of potential jurors who might be smitten by the folksy "old-school" veneer, but I trust there is an equal segment who might choke on that, as it rings condescending and false. Wow, think I am going to see if there are any old 'potential juror' threads in need of reviving...

Of course J. Cheney Mason's persona resonates for KC--CM completes her new parental set. She has forsaken her true family for this new one, who is just as good as the old one was at supporting her delusions. Actually, even better at it, because THEY GET PAID. Doesn't matter to them or KC where that money comes from.

Trade attention-grabbing "snotnose" for Casey, always and only and firstfirstfirstofall Casey.
Trade Lee for Jose.
Trade Cindy for Andrea.
Trade George for Cheney.

Bingo. New family.

 

[FeelSoOld]

Hi WS ~
I have to say I am very worried about this new addition to the defense team.

Please tell me there's nothing to worry about ?
Thanks,
Misy.

JMO. Misy, Don't worry. From the minute Mason stated he took this case on for "fun" he lost any respect or credibility that he may have been accustomed to in his past.

Just watching his interview after the indigency hearing destroyed his reputation for me. JMO.

Usual disclaimers apply.

 

[denjet]

Here's an article from Nov 2008 (prior to the remains being found)

Attorneys Discuss Trial Options In Casey Anthony Murder Case

"How do you prove this child is dead just because her mother won't say where she has been or is, if she knows? You can't prove she's dead," defense attorney Cheney Mason said. "If you can't prove she's dead, you can't prove cause of death. If you can't prove cause of death, you have a hard time proving who's behind it, how it happened."


http://www.clickorlando.com/news/18025942/detail.html

 

[denjet]

This is a video of CM .. it's a part of his closing arguments in the Serrano case:

http://video.aol.ca/video-detail/fla-vs-serrano-defense-closing-arguments-2/3075111962/?icid=VIDURVNWS04

Interesting to see him in action, especially when we know the outcome was a sentence of death ...

 

[texaslb218]

I fixed it. That is what I call it, Big Tex, my uncle used to call it that when one of the boys was showing off when we were kids. The gist of what I am saying is BMOC, the big man on campus. I am sorry if I offended you. Truly.

I live in, AND LOVE, LOVE, LOVE TEXAS!

Heh. Thanks. No offense, really. I am little sensitive because of some of the idiotic battles going on now, that we bring on ourselves...the text book thing, particularly embarrasses me. Oh, the stereotypes!

Thanks, anyway. I am rubbing some skin thickener on right now!!!!

Sorry, guys, for the O/T

 

[ynotdivein]

Heh. Thanks. No offense, really. I am little sensitive because of some of the idiotic battles going on now, that we bring on ourselves...the text book thing, particularly embarrasses me. Oh, the stereotypes!

Thanks, anyway. I am rubbing some skin thickener on right now!!!!

Sorry, guys, for the O/T

Egad, texas, I have to add my sincere apologies--I should have explained more clearly that I think CJM may be playing it up here specifically to provide one more sympathetic KC-advocate for potential jurors to relate to. If AL leaves some folks cold as a pudding, maybe CM can warm them up, if that makes sense... We have had some rollicking discussions of AL's politics and persona and I see the introduction of CM as a very strategic way to balance potential juror appeal on the defense's legal team.

I am feeling very :doh: and :iamashamed0005: right about now...

 

[texaslb218]

Egad, texas, I have to add my sincere apologies--I should have explained more clearly that I think CJM may be playing it up here specifically to provide one more sympathetic KC-advocate for potential jurors to relate to. If AL leaves some folks cold as a pudding, maybe CM can warm them up, if that makes sense... We have had some rollicking discussions of AL's politics and persona and I see the introduction of CM as a very strategic way to balance potential juror appeal on the defense's legal team.

I am feeling very :doh: and :iamashamed0005: right about now...

Enough!!!! You guys are great!! I need to get a little sense of humor back. Hmmmmm. You'd think spring break would give me a little relaxation and grace. Guess I need a few more weeks!! HA!

Please carry on with the important stuff. I'll work on getting my good laugh going again.

Thanks for all you guys do for us lazy ones!

 

[elementary]

Hi WS ~
I have to say I am very worried about this new addition to the defense team.
From what I hear of Cheney he possesses an air of superiority and has a fair amount of charisma. And why would any defense attorney in their right mind want to get hooked up with this case? I don't believe that any publicity is better than no publicity. I mean come on. Didn't Geragos' reputation suffer after representing SP ? I think this so called "dream team" just got threatening.
KC seemed to be very up-beat from what I saw of her recent court appearance.
Me thinks she's feeling a bit cocky these days and is probably planning her welcome home party.
Please tell me there's nothing to worry about ?
Thanks,
Misy.

Hi and welcome!

Your worries remind me of the OJ case. But when I think of that in comparison to this case, the difference is in the less than charming perp and the fact that the state prosecutors are nothing like the prosecutors in the OJ case. They are not playing the public, and in public. They are more than competent and no fools. I don't think there has been enough written or discussed about how they have comported themselves in the name of justice. Especially justice for Caylee.

 

[gamom]

:laugh: What you say is funny because I could see that happening too. The "folksy" attorney will demand the jury see his client as the "little lady" who was a good mom. Well...yes...the 31 days and she did go dancing...but somehow he'll spin it so it sounds innocent. I agree we may have trouble with this new guy. :raincloud:

It saddens and sickens me KC gets to have any hope at all. I can only watch this circus unfold. It seems no longer about Justice, but some kind of sick entertainment. Defense is going to put on a real good show, but in the end, there's nothing quaint about killing your child.

That said, I do have faith in the State and the Judge that they will be the voice of Caylee. IMO, KC will never be out of prison until the day she dies, and then we can all say one big HUGE WASTE IN UNISON.

Bolded by me...I am actually happy that she has hope. It will make the 'guilty' verdict that much sweeter in the end. :dance:

 

[gamom]

Hi and welcome!

Your worries remind me of the OJ case. But when I think of that in comparison to this case, the difference is in the less than charming perp and the fact that the state prosecutors are nothing like the prosecutors in the OJ case. They are not playing the public, and in public. They are more than competent and no fools. I don't think there has been enough written or discussed about how they have comported themselves in the name of justice. Especially justice for Caylee.

As long as there is no glove to try on...we should be alright in this one. Funny thing is, I think if at home, even OJ would have called 911 to report Nicole missing. He took steps to create some kind of believable alibi. KC on the other hand proceeded to get her photo taken while writing stolen checks and dancing on a stripper pole. After making up some fantasy Nanny that she pays with monopoly money.

The good news is she admitted to using Amy's checks. She did not pack enough clothing for herself so had to go to target to stack up on push up bras...however forgot to pick up diapers or pull ups for her daughter who was potty training. Her purchases confirm she knew Caylee was not coming back any time soon.

Another difference between OJ is the fact that we are talking about a helpless child here.

 

[miss plum]

I think many of us are still traumatized by the OJ verdict. I remember it being fearfully invoked many times during the Peterson trial. But that circus resulted in a guilty verdict, and I'm confident this one will also. OJ was an anomaly.
The mountain of evidence in this case aside:
OJ was a beloved celebrity. KC is nothing of the sort.
OJ's defense team were able to draw upon, and manipulate, a genuine ugly history of racial tensions between the black community and LAPD in ways that were plausible to the jury. As far as I know there is no great history of discrimination against young white women by the OCSD, nor is the jury likely to mainly comprise young white women with first or close hand experiences of such problems, so the defense will have to find other ways to discredit the evidence against KC.
Nicole Brown's lifestyle and choice of companions were attacked by the defense in ways that Caylee's lifestyle and choice of companions cannot be, because she was a baby.
OJ is someone who came from nothing and then made something of himself. KC is someone who came from something and made absolutely nothing of herself.
These are just a few differences. There are many, many more.
Justice will be served.

 

[Angel Who Cares]

I was looking for an article from 2009 & came across one of my posts from the media thread........I had to share this one with everyone!

:laugh: :floorlaugh: :laugh: :floorlaugh:

UPDATED: New Motion Hearing Scheduled In Casey Anthony Case
Friday, January 23, 2009 12:23:04 AM

<snipped>
Who&#8217;s Getting Paid?

Cheney Mason has practiced law in Florida for nearly 30 years. He's been on several high-profile cases, including the Lisa Nowak case.

News 13 asked him about paying for a defense of this magnitude. Mason said Baez might be thinking more about notoriety than a payday.

"There's some lawyers that take cases when they can't get money simply because they want the free publicity. They think it&#8217;s going to have people to storm the doors to hire them," Mason said.

He quickly pointed out that if any attorney were to write a book about a case they worked on, they wouldn't be able to practice law in Florida.

Mason also said if Anthony were to claim she was partially indigent, the state could help pay for the case and any expensive experts.

Who&#8217;s Getting Paid?: VIDEO
http://www.cfnews13.com/MediaPlayer...90949&cat=CAC&title=Who&#8217;s Getting Paid?

Article:
http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2009/1/22/new_motion_hearing_scheduled_in_casey_anthony_case.html

:angel:

 

[Curious Me]

Bolded by me...I am actually happy that she has hope. It will make the 'guilty' verdict that much sweeter in the end. :dance:

:laughitup:Oh yes, gamom, you are so wise. It will be a complete surprise to her. It will be televised over and over again for years on tv that sweet moment when the "guilty verdict" is read so I hope she washes her hair for the big event.. I'll be there with you and a few thousand other people waving good-bye. :seeya::wave::seeya::wave::seeya::wave:

 

[LiveLaughLuv]

http://drlillianglassbodylanguagebl...jose-baez-‘s-body-language-shows-some-distan/

 

[LiveLaughLuv]

thank you AngelWhoCares for that stroll down memory lane. I wonder if CMason still feels the same way as he felt commentating on Inmate Anthony. You have to laugh to see how defense attorneys just love talking out of both sides..KWIM!

Mason may bring an element of order with his knowledge and experience. He's not magical and can't change the evidence for it speaks for itself, too much stacked against Inmate Anthony, IMO..I just can't wait for that bubble to burst for Inmate Anthony and her family. She may feel confident to have CMason on her case, coming in with both barrels blaring but in the end, the evidence will do her in. Her own words will do her in. I also am desperate to read what she has been communicating with that other felon. It must have lots in inferences into Caylee's demise sans a confession. I also want her to take the stand and be ripped to shreds by the SA's. I just hope they do not feel intimidated by CMason's presence. They will get justice for Caylee in the end!

Justice for Caylee!

 

[sharpar]

Has anyone determined if Mason was also one of the attorneys for DC ? I read that as a rumor and wondered if it was true ?

 

[Searchfortruth]

Has anyone determined if Mason was also one of the attorneys for DC ? I read that as a rumor and wondered if it was true ?

I believe he was for a short amount of time, but don't know exactly how long it was.

I hear CM has not represented an indigent client since the 1970's...