2010.04.19 Judge Strickland IS stepping down

[SallyLu]

Sheaffer says that Perry is known as a no nonsense judge, demanding in professionalism and demanding in competence. Uh oh Baez, better watch out!

Yes, Sheaffer threw out the "demanding" word a few times didn't he?

 

[miss plum]

I'm uncomfortable with JP's race being discussed as something that will upset or possibly disadvantage the defendant, who is on record for making racist statements. It just opens the door for later absurd slurs about his impartiality. I can't imagine for one second that he would care what that idiot or her acolytes have to say about African-Americans, or let it in any way influence his rulings. I'm not at all suggesting anyone here is saying that it will, but I think after what has just happened with JS we should, as participants in the public discourse around this case, tread carefully.

 

[AZlawyer]

I hit thanks button with some reluctance, as I can envision even the new judge being thrown under the bus at some future date simply for having this purported reason to be supposedly "against" KC from the get-go due to what she said in her letters; heck some posters here have already pointed this out. In fact this race issue may just be part of the larger defense strategy (congrats on getting one together finally, "boys".)

Don't like typing it but there it is. I think we are getting to End Game and that defense may have wanted Perry because they thought they could impugn him enough on race issues to get a retrial.

MOO! MOO! MOO! And I hope these MOOs are totally wrong.

oooooooooo that would be a tough motion to write:

"Your Honor, we are concerned that you might be prejudiced against racists, because, um, well, you're black. And our client is a racist, as evidenced by her attached writings..."

 

[miss plum]

Ok just for the record here is the story. Marinade was hired to do flyers, bumper stickers etc for a judge who was running for re-election. Said judge was running against Judge Blevins. The judge Marinade was working for allegedly, according to Marinade mind you, , made a VERY racist comment thus the disgusting title of Marinades blogging on the subject. Marinade was supposedly then TORN in HALF on the inside, knowing he had no other job and needed this job for this allegedly racist judge. He consulted an attorney friend of his so torn was he. The attorney told him to do the job. Dave gave it his all and in the end, the judge he was working for was defeated by Judge Blevins. Marinade thinks, somehow in all of his delusions, that he somehow was, or he hopes he was, responsible for Judge Blevins winning. He hopes that on some subconscious level he perhaps did not perhaps do his best and THAT contributed to his employers loss.

Self-important thinking right there...The camera is always on ME ME ME ME!
Also, seems to have been a battle between conscience and money and money won...

He has absolutely NOTHING to do with this judge coming on the case. And I guarantee he never will...

Marinade needs to stick a fork in it.

 

[magic-cat]

Schaeffer has some interesting comments on WFTV regarding Judge Strickland stepping down, Judge Bevin taking over, what kind of a Judge he has seen him be, and some comments on the new motions.

Runs a tighter timeline, indeed!


PS: I know we've been extremely busy the last three days but hasn't anyone noticed I passed 1000 posts?

Congratulations...

 

[magic-cat]

oooooooooo that would be a tough motion to write:

"Your Honor, we are concerned that you might be prejudiced against racists, because, um, well, you're black. And our client is a racist, as evidenced by her attached writings..."

I am almost falling in the floor I am laughing so much...

 

[Nore]

Man, I would have love to seen the reaction the defense had after reading this!

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First of all I have NO legal training at all,just guess at a lot.
Right now I have a gut feeling they expected an argument over
this. I wonder if anyone ran for tp. when the news came out of Judge
Stricklands decision.I am praying for Judge Perry.:angel:

 

[technicalconfusion]

Researchers have found that when women defy traditional gender stereotypes, and commit ‘men-type' crimes, there are punished more severely than comparable male offenders," Lyons argued. "The defense…has found four cases in the last five years where Orange County prosecutors have declined to seek the death penalty against fathers who murdered their children."

Per a new motion today. Off to re read AL's articles and cite references to sexism in the DP cases. I recall there is a reference to this issue somewhere. I will find it.

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I wonder how Ms. Lyons would feel about this ruling by the new judge:

http://dailyme.com/story/2010040500003037/death-row-debate-killer-found-mentally-disabled-.html

 

[karengo]

A couple things that come to mind for me.

First did they think maybe he would deny the motion to step down and then they could make more appearances saying he is prejudice and poor us?

Second did they know which Judge would take over if he did step down?

Sorry if this has been asked and answered..

 

[ynotdivein]

Researchers have found that when women defy traditional gender stereotypes, and commit ‘men-type' crimes, there are punished more severely than comparable male offenders," Lyons argued. "The defense…has found four cases in the last five years where Orange County prosecutors have declined to seek the death penalty against fathers who murdered their children."

Per a new motion today. Off to re read AL's articles and cite references to sexism in the DP cases. I recall there is a reference to this issue somewhere. I will find it.

Before everyone freaks out.....let's recall KC's own words in jailhouse letters discussing JB and his reassurance that she would find someone to take care of her one day.

More and more folks.....I attribute these letters to an ORGANIZED effort to facilitate and contribute to a mantra by the defense. I'll be in the AL thread researching comments and "tricks".

SOTS this makes so much sense. AL knows she can't get KC off on the facts so suddenly we have a motion that causes JS to step down and BP to be seated, opening the racism door, and now she is throwing out the sexism bone.

What this MEANS is the defense HAS NO DEFENSE. They have theories, they have studies and surveys, and they have tenuous links to hot-button issues... but they have NOTHING that proves beyond reasonable doubt that Casey Anthony did not kill her daugher, Caylee Anthony.

 

[strawberry]

Researchers have found that when women defy traditional gender stereotypes, and commit ‘men-type' crimes, there are punished more severely than comparable male offenders," Lyons argued. "The defense…has found four cases in the last five years where Orange County prosecutors have declined to seek the death penalty against fathers who murdered their children."

Per a new motion today. Off to re read AL's articles and cite references to sexism in the DP cases. I recall there is a reference to this issue somewhere. I will find it.

Before everyone freaks out.....let's recall KC's own words in jailhouse letters discussing JB and his reassurance that she would find someone to take care of her one day.

More and more folks.....I attribute these letters to an ORGANIZED effort to facilitate and contribute to a mantra by the defense. I'll be in the AL thread researching comments and "tricks".

That KC! Such a feminist going for what in the past only men dared to achieve! She should get feminist of the year!

 

[strawberry]

I've noticed that when men kill their children, we all say, "Oh well, boys will be boys."

Wait, no, we don't. :banghead:

She's just trying to shatter that last glass ceiling!!

 

[Mosby]

Defense filed more motions today regarding taking DP off the table. Perhaps this was the motivation to remove the judge, to have some motions reheard? Reported on the OS article. http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news...nthony-motion-20100419,0,6017904.story?page=4
According to the article they seek a private hearing with the judge also.
"The defense team asks the court to set a hearing date as well as a private hearing with a judge, where the court "may hear additional evidence from the defense" in support of their motion."
Motions have not been filed yet on the docket or released to media as far as I know.

Why a private meeting?

 

[elementary]

I hit thanks button with some reluctance, as I can envision even the new judge being thrown under the bus at some future date simply for having this purported reason to be supposedly "against" KC from the get-go due to what she said in her letters; heck some posters here have already pointed this out. In fact this race issue may just be part of the larger defense strategy (congrats on getting one together finally, "boys".)

Don't like typing it but there it is. I think we are getting to End Game and that defense may have wanted Perry because they thought they could impugn him enough on race issues to get a retrial.

MOO! MOO! MOO! And I hope these MOOs are totally wrong.

Hornsby called it- that it would be Perry. If Hornsby guessed, what are the chances that the defence team didn't know. And if they did know that Judge Perry was up next, then there is indeed method to their madness.

 

[sleutherontheside]

I've noticed that when men kill their children, we all say, "Oh well, boys will be boys."

Wait, no, we don't. :banghead:

IMO....AL has specific rebuttals / assumptions and theories based upon race and gender. Let's remember that early on JB commented on the fact that KC was an attractive woman and that it was that fact that contributed to the media frenzy and bias ( completely circumventing the topic of defense contributions to fuel media frenzy) that would benefit the defense TEAM and not the defendant!

I'll dissect those four Florida cases and bet dollars to doughnuts that when and / or if a side by side photo comparison is made.....that not only will "looks" be an issue but I suspect that other key factors will be present. But...I also suspect that that the "beauty / "10" status / visual appeal referenced thus far will be manipulated and in essence...... hoe'ed out as a defense of some sort.

 

[Intermezzo]

Here's the order.

http://www.clickorlando.com/download/2010/0419/23199242.pdf

Definitely worth the read, IMO!

ETA I knew I loved JS. :heart:

FaerieB, you were soooooo right. Definitely worth the read.

Judge Strickland I give you a standing ovation, a round of applause, a BRAVO, BRAVO!!!!

Adieu fair Judge Strickland, Adieu.

 

[strawberry]

Congratulations...

Probably thanks to this motion! See, three good things have come of it! A strict judge, an entertaining decision, and your count!

 

[strawberry]

Why a private meeting?

Maybe they can request KC to get out of jail to look for Caylee. I mean look for the real killer. :waitasec:

 

[Wishbone]

I hit thanks button with some reluctance, as I can envision even the new judge being thrown under the bus at some future date simply for having this purported reason to be supposedly "against" KC from the get-go due to what she said in her letters; heck some posters here have already pointed this out. In fact this race issue may just be part of the larger defense strategy (congrats on getting one together finally, "boys".)

Don't like typing it but there it is. I think we are getting to End Game and that defense may have wanted Perry because they thought they could impugn him enough on race issues to get a retrial.

MOO! MOO! MOO! And I hope these MOOs are totally wrong.

Don't worry. That dog won’t hunt…..I’m sure that during his long career this judge in charge of judges has been dealt the race card many times and managed to trump it.

 

[Pattymarie]

Love Judge Strickland. Love his final comments.

However, am I the only one worried that the defense's primary strategy is to pick apart and discredit every good man and woman (and eventually evidence) working for Caylee's justice and that today's events just set a sickening precedent? How long will KC and company get away this arrogant snubbing of the law?

If this accusation against Judge Strickland actually had the potential for being an appellate issue, then I am seriously afraid that our judicial system is tainted ("the inmates are running the asylum").

And if this accusation caused such a good, fair and experienced man to step down so readily, what else are we in store for?

As long as there is not her actual fingerprints found on the duct tape, bottle, syringe, etc. this, in my opinion is the future of this case. And it will be maddening.