2010.04.23 Vacuum Cleaner Forensics

[beach]

For reference - pics of the two steam cleaners

Bissell model 1970

Bissell Spot-Bot model 1200

 

[Purple Iris]

Also, a few times Leonard Padilla told on Nancy Grace about the differant machines that he noticed during the time he was outside the house when Casey was on bond.

Course, that went flying right over NG's head cause she was busy screaching about something else, or, was in a hurry to either talk to Sheba, or, show pictures of her miracles and dab a dry eye.

 

[Purple Iris]

My guess is that any replaced machines that left that home, went to a charitable organization, for the tax deduction that they would have gotton for them.

I don't think that anything went to the garbage, or, that they allowed the place delivering a replacement, to just haul away the old.

 

[Cat13067]

Also, a few times Leonard Padilla told on Nancy Grace about the differant machines that he noticed during the time he was outside the house when Casey was on bond.

Course, that went flying right over NG's head cause she was busy screaching about something else, or, was in a hurry to either talk to Sheba, or, show pictures of her miracles and dab a dry eye.

You made me laugh so hard when you talked about Sheba, and thencalled NG's children "her miracles". You have her down pat. LMAO

 

[RR0004]

Very strange there was not one hair in those vacuums. No way! I have so much hair in my vac! Kitty hair and people hair. Sometimes I have turn my vac over on it's side and take the scissors and cut the hair out of the brushes (I have hair to about the middle of my back). You'd think there would be some hair in the A's many vacs! They have 2 dogs, a cat, and people in and out of that house constantly. Not to mention - KC is constantly playing with her hair! Some of that had to have come out while she had her fingers all through it. Me thinks Cindy cleaned out those vacs really good or she just went out and purchased new ones.

IMO...they were picked up too late.

 

[RR0004]

Amazing isn't it? I didn't know they bought a new washer and dryer! WOW. Who has time or the thought process to do all this stuff when their grandaugher is missing?

Is there a link to the new washing machine and dryer?

 

[bogeygal]

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0901/22/ng.01.html

Speaking of the new washer/dryer:

Snipped:

GRACE: To bounty hunter Leonard Padilla, who actually has searched for little Caylee. Leonard, what do you make of this link, which looks to be a direct link between the trash bag at the home and the trash bag used - - excuse me, the trash bag containing the skeleton of little Caylee and the bags used at the home?

LEONARD PADILLA, BOUNTY HUNTER: It`s pretty direct. And I`ll tell you something else that kind of surprised me. When we were there, the garbage bags had red ties. However, we understood that the ties were yellow prior to us being there and the bag that they found had a yellow tie. And also, if you look at the washer and dryers in the television films that were taken, before we were there, they were one color, and after we arrived, it seemed as though they were different.

 

[Reagan]

It's good to see that the cleaners were in fact tested for at least something.

I haven't had time to read through the entire FBI Lab hair investigation report, but I haven't come across anything that said NO hairs were found. Just that no hairs with apparent decomposition were found.

Also, why are the media outlets reporting about a mysterious strand of hair in the duct tape? The way I read it was .. the hair fell out onto the paper when they were examining the World of Disney bag/gatorade bottle. I didn't read anything regarding the hair with the duct tape.

P.S I hope someone eventually finds the links from FOX that show different washers, etc. I had completely forgot about that. I'd rather see it for myself, rather than take the word of Leonard "story teller" Padilla.
I have to take off otherwise I'd try to look for it myself, but I wouldn't know where to begin.

 

[beach]

IMO...they were picked up too late.

RR, do you have any idea when LE first confiscated the vacuums/cleaners?

I dug around in these docs, but only see reference to when they were sent for analysis. I was trying to find when OSCO took possession.

I've got a few things to do and don't have time to thread dive right now. If anybody can find it, I will be grateful. Otherwise, I will dig around later tonight.

 

[Purple Iris]

RR, do you have any idea when LE first confiscated the vacuums/cleaners?

I dug around in these docs, but only see reference to when they were sent for analysis. I was trying to find when OSCO took possession.

I've got a few things to do and don't have time to thread dive right now. If anybody can find it, I will be grateful. Otherwise, I will dig around later tonight.

I remember seeing them removed when CSI went back to the house after Caylee was found, and, the elder Anthony's were putting on the Ritz.
So, mid December.
There are pictures on one of the slide shows from one of the tv stations if that helps.

 

[Purple Iris]

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0901/22/ng.01.html

Speaking of the new washer/dryer:

Snipped:

GRACE: To bounty hunter Leonard Padilla, who actually has searched for little Caylee. Leonard, what do you make of this link, which looks to be a direct link between the trash bag at the home and the trash bag used - - excuse me, the trash bag containing the skeleton of little Caylee and the bags used at the home?

LEONARD PADILLA, BOUNTY HUNTER: It`s pretty direct. And I`ll tell you something else that kind of surprised me. When we were there, the garbage bags had red ties. However, we understood that the ties were yellow prior to us being there and the bag that they found had a yellow tie. And also, if you look at the washer and dryers in the television films that were taken, before we were there, they were one color, and after we arrived, it seemed as though they were different.

The back top of the machines were differant, IMO from what I remember of seeing the old vs the new.

 

[sumbunny]

I keep thinking it was on greta's home tour (the original washer and dryer) then i remember seeing a different colored washer dryer in a document dump. Ooooh i wish i remembered where i saw them!

 

[Reagan]

Oops, I shouldn't've spoke so soon. I got to the part where NO apparent hairs at all were found in the shop vac, steam cleaner, etc..

That's the epitome of hinky! I will keep my mouth shut now. Sorry for pre-emptively speaking on the subject.

 

[Purple Iris]

You made me laugh so hard when you talked about Sheba, and thencalled NG's children "her miracles". You have her down pat. LMAO

Oh, I'd like to "pat her down" all right, but not in the conventional way ~!
Anyway ~ Carry on and back to the topic at hand ~!!

 

[Purple Iris]

Actually, I think if someone has the time and energy, and want to go back through all of those slide shows from the local tv stations, they will find and see not only the boxes of the vacume cleaners stored on the shelves in the garage, but, they may also see the differance in the washer and dryer.

But, without a doubt, you will see one, if not 2 vacume cleaner boxes on those shelves.

 

[TakeNote]

just a thought......after reading the updates on the new doc dump today.....

did it mention that any of caylee's hair was found at all in these cleaners?
i know no decomp hairs found.....but did they find caylee's hair at all?

 

[truckengirl]

just a thought......after reading the updates on the new doc dump today.....

did it mention that any of caylee's hair was found at all in these cleaners?
i know no decomp hairs found.....but did they find caylee's hair at all?

That is a great question! If no Caylee hairs at all in them I would say these were probably purchased after July 16, 2008 because all kids shed hairs really bad especially when they have long hair like Caylee.

 

[ZsaZsa]

Actually, I think if someone has the time and energy, and want to go back through all of those slide shows from the local tv stations, they will find and see not only the boxes of the vacume cleaners stored on the shelves in the garage, but, they may also see the differance in the washer and dryer.

But, without a doubt, you will see one, if not 2 vacume cleaner boxes on those shelves.

Did they replace the freezer too? Sounds like they began a purge as soon as KC got arrested....

 

[Harmony 2]

page 64:

As a result of the discovery of the remains evidence was submitted to the FBI laboratory for analysis. The items referenced in this EC are being resubmitted to the FBI Laboratory for further processing because of additional leads developed in this ongoing investigation.

This is in reference to the vacuums and wet vacs. There was a bench note whereby it was stated that Jeff Ashton did not need the vacuums examined. It appears by the statement above that "additional leads developed" caused them to resubmit the items.

 

[southernbrunette]

Actually, I think if someone has the time and energy, and want to go back through all of those slide shows from the local tv stations, they will find and see not only the boxes of the vacume cleaners stored on the shelves in the garage, but, they may also see the differance in the washer and dryer.

But, without a doubt, you will see one, if not 2 vacume cleaner boxes on those shelves.

Maybe it's just me but who keeps boxes of vacuum cleaners - unless they're like brand spanking new? I think the vacuum my family has we've had for eons..I can't imagine keeping the boxes they came in unless they were just recently purchased, even then most people would probably set the boxes on the curb with the trash..(unless they knew their house was being watched and didn't want anyone to know they recently made such a purchase!) JMO.