2010.07.26 - Kyron Horman case featured on Dateline

[tlcya]

I thank you for the link but find WW not Main stream media enough for my own taste. I realize others find it a credible source, but I do not. Regardless, I stand by my statement that Desiree has shown great restraint for one in her position.

Still agreeing to disagree. Please understand Cypress, I was on your very side of the terri guilty of wrongdoing or not debate just days ago. I am no longer. It is what it is. I feel now that Terri has indeed done somethign very wrong.

Im' not gonna change your mind anymore than you will mine.

 

[daisy7]

I am not concerned that Kyron's bed was not made, cuz I think the whole making bed thing is just entirely way overrated. My 4 DS are spending the summer with their grandmother in Miami -- they've been gone almost a month -- and their beds are still not made. :blush: Please don't tell my Mom this, cuz she'd flip out

I finally watched the vid. and am curious about something Tony said. He said that TH couldn't say where she was for a few hours the day Kyron went missing. Then, he says her cell phone pings don't equal where she said she was.

So, if she can't explain where she was for a few hours that day how do her cell pings prove she wasn't where she said she was? Maybe I'm reading too much into this???

 

[Patty G]

Patty - Did you get a chance to tape the Dateline show? I still can't find the whole show on-line. :blowkiss:

Nope, I didn't tape the show. I did watch the show this morning and didn't see anything new that we haven't seen before except for Desiree stating Kaine cheated on Desiree with Terri while Desiree was pregnant with Kyron. Kaine's side via the anchor person narrating on the show stated Kaine didn't cheat on Desiree, IF I heard that accurately.

 

[wvjules]

I tend to think other pictures were removed from the wall. Desiree has done an amazing job of keeping her older son out of all of this. I imagine his photo probably normally hangs next to Kyron, but in the continued effort to get his identity private they removed his photo before taping.

As a matter of fact, last night was the first time I have heard it confirmed through MSM that Desiree in fact has an older son.

So she gave up custody of her younger son, Kyron, but not her older son? If hospital visits and mounting bills were the reason to give Kyron to his dad, why was the older son exempt? :waitasec:

 

[STEADFAST]

I am not concerned that Kyron's bed was not made, cuz I think the whole making bed thing is just entirely way overrated. My 4 DS are spending the summer with their grandmother in Miami -- they've been gone almost a month -- and their beds are still not made. :blush: Please don't tell my Mom this, cuz she'd flip out

I finally watched the vid. and am curious about something Tony said. He said that TH couldn't say where she was for a few hours the day Kyron went missing. Then, he says her cell phone pings don't equal where she said she was.

So, if she can't explain where she was for a few hours that day how do her cell pings prove she wasn't where she said she was? Maybe I'm reading too much into this???

It may be that she can't pinpoint where she was during the time she says she was driving around AND that her cell phone pings don't match the places she says she was during the time she claimed to be running errands.

 

[tlcya]

I found the statement from Tony regarding Terri's account of her day and how there is something wrong with the "structure" of it. To me the word structure implies something constructed, made, built, not a recounting of real events.

This shows me he genuinely believes that Terri has constructed/manufactured her account of her time. Much like a house of cards, when something is structurally not sound, it all comes crashing down.

Watch for the crash. I truly believe it is coming this week.

 

[Patty G]

to him, the relationship was over; to Desi, she was hoping and praying it wasn't.

How many times have we seen something like this with others in our lives?

It sure would have been nice if DY and KH were sitting next to one another when DY gave her version and we could have heard KH's version. :crazy:

 

[bookjunkie2]

Re Kyron's bedroom: I really don't understand the big deal here. To me this sounded like a comforting thing. Remember, this is a mom who had to send her son to live full time with his father because of health reasons. Who then decided to let him stay there so as to not disturb his day to day life and schooling. She most likely would prefer that Kyron live full time with her. Leaving his bed unmade, his toys out, makes it look like he's just gone for a while, not the two weeks until his next weekend visitation. My mom used to do the same thing when we lived with my father. It made her feel less lonely and made the house seem more the way she wanted it to be. Odds are Desiree had this ritual for a long time, except now Kyron is missing.
Frankly, I would do the same.
I don't find it staged or strange at all. None of us knows how we would reacte under the same circumstances. None of us. Little reminders become hugely significant. His unmade bed and scattered toys give her hope that he's coming home. To clean them up know would be to admit that he isn't coming home.
MOO

 

[Calliope]

ETA: That may just be an ad for the show. I will keep looking; but, I am having computer issues right now.

Regarding that last youtube clip (9 min), was that part of the Dateline show? Because some heavily edited versions appeared in earlier stories, back around the time shortly after the 'sexting' stuff came out. I notice that's the first time Tony really spoke out on what he felt about all of this, and I think he was being very forthcoming and approaching it as he would in his line of work. But when the reporter asked if they felt Terri had an accomplice, Tony clammed up. Desiree answered 'yes', and even said "we feel...", but IMO she was speaking for herself only; Tony clearly did not feel that way.

This particular interview came out some time before all this in the past week with DeDe and the grand jury, so I wonder if his view has changed at all.

 

[CCup]

So she gave up custody of her younger son, Kyron, but not her older son? If hospital visits and mounting bills were the reason to give Kyron to his dad, why was the older son exempt? :waitasec:

It has never been stated whether or not she has custody of her older son or what she did with him while she got treatment. Maybe he stayed with his father or maybe he stayed with her parents or possibly even with his paternal grandparents. We don't know and IMO it's irrelevant to finding Kyron (don't get me wrong, I am curious about the family dynamics here).

Anyway you cut it, I think she has done an amazing job of preventing her older son from being drug through this media circus. At some point, all of these people are going to have to go back to some sort of regular life and thankfully that transition will be a tad bit easier for Desiree's older son, IMO.

I hope when all of this is said and done that Desiree Young is role model for other parents who, God forbid, have to go through something like this. She is a class act and IMO has done what was not only in the best interest of Kyron, but also but what in the best interest of her older son. I also hope these 2 boys know and realize how amazingly strong their mother is and how much she loves them. JMO

 

[kant]

Do you happened to know which interview KH and DY indicated it was TH that was going to drive Kyron to meet DY half way?

I just find it odd that TH was the one to do the exchange since she has the baby, and KH was home in the afternoon. Also since KH is the father and should be making the exchange between parents or at least going with TH to help with two children in a long car ride roundtrip. :crazy:

bbm

This part struck me as very odd too.

And BTW, there is something about Kaine that makes me feel hinky.

moo

 

[human]

I feel that since Desi probably had some bad feelings about Kaine, she spilled her guts to LE
about him as well.

I am guessing Le didn't find anything that pointed to Kaine.

 

[Adrienne37]

Is there a MSM link stating that Terri was the one that was supposed to drive Kyron halfway to meet Desiree? I don't believe that Kaine or Desiree has spoken to this fact so I'm not sure where this information has come from as I don't remember reading a "trustworthy" article supporting it.

 

[BeanE]

Is there a MSM link stating that Terri was the one that was supposed to drive Kyron halfway to meet Desiree? I don't believe that Kaine or Desiree has spoken to this fact so I'm not sure where this information has come from as I don't remember reading a "trustworthy" article supporting it.

You can probably trace it back to the raw video of the press conference using this info:

Young also revealed that the day her son disappeared, Terri Horman was supposed to drive him to Eugene, Ore., where she was to turn him over to his mother and stepfather for a weekend in Medford. Tony Young said he planned to take Kyron on a long-delayed fishing trip with the rod his stepfather had given him for Christmas, KPTV reported.

http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20399902,00.html

ETA: It was the presser that Desiree and Tony did in Medford without Kaine. The one in which Tony said 'connect the dots' and talked about the fishing trip. You need the raw video IIRC to see the part where he talks about the fishing trip.

 

[newone]

bbm

This part struck me as very odd too.

And BTW, there is something about Kaine that makes me feel hinky.

moo

That's been sticking in my craw from day one! A forty something mom with a toddler would appreciate hubby making the drive (my point of view) -- :croc:

 

[human]

That's been sticking in my craw from day one! A forty something mom with a toddler would appreciate hubby making the drive (my point of view) -- :croc:

there is a link somewhere that said that Terri's son was scheduled to come for the week.

So maybe they were meeting to get him?

But the grandmother (Carol Moulton) early on said that the older boy was on a Boy Scout camping trip.

It is very confusing as one would assume that the older boy would be in school rather than coming to spend the week at TH/KH's home.

 

[BeanE]

there is a link somewhere that said that Terri's son was scheduled to come for the week.

So maybe they were meeting to get him?

But the grandmother (Carol Moulton) early on said that the older boy was on a Boy Scout camping trip.

It is very confusing as one would assume that the older boy would be in school rather than coming to spend the week at TH/KH's home.

IIRC, there was nothing saying Terri's son was coming on Friday. I'll try to find the link.

 

[gitana1]

I highly doubt the entire investigation started because of parents that didn't like the other parent. LE has to have more than that before they investigate somebody. If it all was took was people not liking another person to start an investigation, LE would be sorely backed up on cases and justice would be even slower. Obviously, TH's story about that day hasn't been adding up. Regardless of how KH, DY, and TY feel about her, there is no way they can just tell LE to investigate her because they don't like her or have a feeling about her. That's just not enough for an investigation into someone. LE is not the big bad here. There's no grand conspiracy to frame TH. LE is doing it's job in investigating the person that has given THEM the most suspicion, and that is TH. And I'm sure the parents have been told things besides their gut feelings that lead them to believe she did this. It's not just someone's whim that she might be guilty.

And I do hope someone gives us a play by play of the upcoming Dateline. I don't want to have to watch it, lol.

I had to bump and bold you. I was going to say the same thing! I'm confused why some think OR LE is going to expend so much of its resources - GJ, repeated physical searches, subpoenas, LDTs, etc - based on suspicion of some bitter parents.
I just don't see TH as the put-upon outsider who is being harassed and ganged-up on by her soon to be ex and his former wife. But, apparently some do. Now, Tonya Craft, that is a different story - corrupt system, extreme lying going on, hateful people who have a grudge for specific reasons. Here, it is not the family's lies that have created the investigation. It's the disappearance of Kyron. And, it appears it is the investigation that has propelled the family's feelings, not the other way around.

P.S. Will there be any replays of Dateline? I missed it. Anywhere I can see it?

 

[Steely Dan]

CNN will be covering the press conference live at 5pm. It doesn't say whether it's EST or PST. I'm assuming EST.

http://live.cnn.com/

I'll probably miss it so hopefully they'll archive it.

 

[Donjeta]

I don't see the big deal about who was going to drive Kyron. There could be tons of reasons why it was supposed to be Terri that day. Perhaps Kaine had to go somewhere in the evening, perhaps he wanted to spend the evening with the toddler, perhaps Terri likes driving and enjoys the break from taking care of the toddler (on the return route she'd have a full two hours or more for herself alone which can be a rare blessing if you're a SAHM and spend 24/7 with your baby otherwise), perhaps Kaine and Terri thought it was fair to take turns driving since they had been doing a lot of back and forth driving chauffeuring Kyron and Terri's son over the years, and maybe Kaine was to pick him up when Kyron was to return.

I think it is a complete non-issue. It is not significant IMO unless it was somehow unusual that Terri was going to do the driving the day Kyron disappeared.