ISSUES WITH JANE VELEZ-MITCHELL
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And also tonight -- an avalanche of evidence in the Casey Anthony document dump, the latest one to come down, the most compelling and possibly incriminating exhibit? Chilling, heartbreaking new photos of little Caylee wearing a pink T-shirt that says, "Big trouble comes in small packages." Those are sadly the very same words on the T-shirt found near where Caylee`s remains were ultimately discovered.
The photos were snapped by Casey`s ex-boyfriend Ricardo Morales. Now, could he know more secret details about what happened to Caylee?
Prosecutors also released a slew of audio interviews between cops and searchers from Texas EquuSearch, including an interview with the director of Texas EquuSearch, Tim Miller, who makes a jaw-dropping claim as he describes a conversation between George Anthony and a friend of George`s who was visiting the Anthony home after Caylee vanished but before her remains were discovered.
Listen to this.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And he said, "Well he knows the answer`s in the bedroom," and he pointed to ah, Casey`s bedroom. And his words were, "But the (EXPLETIVE DELETED) won`t talk."
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VELEZ-MITCHELL: Wow.
Meantime, get used to hearing the phrase "junk science" over and over again. Casey`s dream team says they believe the prosecution`s evidence about the decomposition of Caylee`s remains is not admissible in court.
Give me a holler, 1-877-JVM-SAYS.
Straight out to "In Session" correspondent, Jean Casarez; Jean, you just heard it. We`re now learning George was reportedly very frustrated feeling his daughter Casey knew the answer to Caylee`s disappearance but wouldn`t talk about it. Why is this significant?
JEAN CASAREZ, CORRESPONDENT, "IN SESSION": It`s extremely significant because that is the state of mind that is the demeanor from this witness. Let me go on from there because what happened was that a map -- the head of EquuSearch Timothy Miller had a map and he had George ask Casey, put an X where we should start the search.
Cindy got angry. Casey ran to her bedroom. That X was never put on that map. George Anthony will be questioned about that by prosecutors.
VELEZ-MITCHELL: Ok. At first glance these photos of little Caylee, adorable photos of the pink T-shirt, the one with the same writing as the T-shirt found near her body. Well, they sure look like they were taken right before she vanished.
But here`s the thing. They were taken by Ricardo Morales, described as an ex-boyfriend of Casey`s. At the time Caylee vanished, Casey was dating someone named Tony Lazaro. He is the guy who helped cops get information from Casey`s brother Lee in this secret video.
So I want to go out to bounty hunter Leonard Padilla. Great to see you Leonard.
LEONARD PADILLA, BOUNTY HUNTER: How are you doing Jane?
VELEZ-MITCHELL: These photos are sure to be a bombshell if they with were taken right before Caylee vanished. They show Casey --
PADILLA: Sure that was the article of clothing -- that was the article of clothing that was definitely found out there. But let me correct something.
VELEZ-MITCHELL: Ok.
PADILLA: Casey was never in the room when there was a map being tossed around on a table. Tracy was with her. I asked Tracy again today, did Casey leave the room to go look at a map? She says absolutely not. It never took place like that. She never left the room. I was with her in that room the whole time that that map thing was being discussed.
The other thing about George making that statement, that`s very accurate also. Plus the fact that the day before George had actually tried to go into the room and assault Casey, screaming at her, "You know -- where`s my granddaughter? What happened to my granddaughter? You know."
And it was his friend Jim, previous acquaintance from the Ohio police department and Cindy that dragged him out of that room. Otherwise, he would have been all over Casey on that occasion also.
VELEZ-MITCHELL: Ok.
But I want to get to the photos again, these photos that show Casey with little Caylee. And she`s wearing the same T-shirt as tragically when her body is ultimately discovered. They are taken by Ricardo Morales, but Casey is dating somebody else by the name of Tony Lazaro at the time.
So how -- was she dating more than two people at once? Or why is it that this photo is taken by somebody who may have been out of the picture by the time the child disappeared?
PADILLA: Well, the timing of when the picture was taken is unknown. I don`t think anybody has the -- the ability to say it was taken the day before or the week before.
But Casey was having a relationship with probably a half dozen individuals during the June to July time period. The day before, like on the 16th, that evening she`s at Blockbuster. That morning she was at another friend`s house driving Lazaro`s car.
So it`s a situation where Casey was probably seeing or having relationships --
(CROSSTALK)
VELEZ-MITCHELL: All right.
PADILLA: -- with at least six different guys during a very small period of time.
VELEZ-MITCHELL: What? Wow, six guys.
PADILLA: At least.
VELEZ-MITCHELL: Julie in Kentucky, your question or thought. Julie?
JULIE, KENTUCKY (via telephone): Yes. Hi.
VELEZ-MITCHELL: Oh Julie, hi.
JULIE: First of all, I believe that Casey Anthony is 100 percent innocent in this whole situation. Whether the pictures were taken soon after she was killed or the day of, the pictures of Caylee and Casey they`re both smiling and very happy. I mean, it does not look like to me that this was planned that day or even during that week.
MARK EIGLARSH, CRIMINAL DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Jane, that is the absolute point I was going to make. Of all the evidence I looked over that was released you`re going to see the defense lawyers hold up a photo and say pictures are worth a thousand words. This is inconsistent with a mother who`s a monster who wants this child killed. That`s what the defense is going to argue.
VELEZ-MITCHELL: More on the other side -- more Casey.
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JOY RAY, CASE FOLLOWER: I`m Joy Ray. Bye. Hope you enjoy the -- our clip of Caylee. Just want to let everybody know that -- about the memorial and we appreciate everybody leaving us stuffed animals. So peace out.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
VELEZ-MITCHELL: Ok. That woman is Casey Anthony case follower, Joy Ray. Her videos were part of today`s massive evidence dump.
Take a look at this. Joy took it upon herself to document activity at Caylee`s makeshift memorial which was put up at the site where Caylee`s remains were discovered less than a mile from the Anthony home. This is part of the document dump.
Jean Casarez, I don`t really understand thee evidentiary value here.
CASAREZ: None. I don`t see relevance at all in this video. It was done the next year. I think in the springtime. So you can`t even equate the month or the year before as to look at the moisture content of the land. Not relevant at all.
VELEZ-MITCHELL: All right. Here`s my big issue: junk science. We`ve heard that scientists have found signs of decomposition in Casey`s car. That was supposedly a slam dunk for the prosecution that Caylee`s body had been there, but the fine print from scientists says something a little different. Quote, "a portion of the total odor signature identified in the trunk is consistent with an early decompositional event that could be of human origin."
Huh, not so much of a slam dunk anymore.
Jose Baez was -- actually traveled today to this place called the Tennessee body farm. He is going to try to poke holes in this claim that there is this smell of human decomposition coming from the trunk. They call it junk science.
Mark Eiglarsh, do you think the evidence of air, which is invisible, is going to get in as something that is going to be evidence that the jury will hear?
EIGLARSH: Million-dollar question. We know it`s never been done before, and it`s got to pass the fry test. Here in Florida the judge will listen to scientific evidence and determine whether the scientific evidence is generally reliable in that community. And he`s not an expert. He`s going to have to defer to the experts to make that decision.
VELEZ-MITCHELL: Yes, but I mean, the thing is you can`t see it. Ok? It`s not like a piece of evidence like if I`m holding this card, ok, this is a piece of evidence, you cannot see air. How do they examine that evidence? Where does that go?
EIGLARSH: That`s what the experts are going to testify to. It will make for fun media appearances because it`s quite frankly going to be very dry and boring. Ultimately it`s not going to make a difference though in this case to the defense. For sure the prosecution can establish the smell of death in that vehicle. They`ve got it from several people including her own parents. Whether it comes in or it doesn`t come in, I don`t believe will affect the outcome of this case.
VELEZ-MITCHELL: All right. Leonard Padilla, there`s been talk from you about a conspiracy theory. You, for example, have told us here on ISSUES, you don`t believe Roy Kronk was just a Good Samaritan who happened to discover Caylee`s remains. But rather you claim that Kronk knew where to look and what he was looking for.
And here`s what Tim Miller`s attorney said about you. Listen to this.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It`s my opinion that Leonard Padilla has not been right about hardly one thing in this entire case. He had everybody looking in a river, and has made one mistake after another in my opinion as it relates to his assessment of the case.
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VELEZ-MITCHELL: Leonard Padilla, ten seconds.
PADILLA: Well, Mark has a beautiful wife. That`s the only good thing I can say about him. The thing about it is Kronk got his information from his girlfriend, he bragged about it to his family members and the girlfriend got it from whoever law enforcement called to be present the day the attorney went in there and talked to Casey. There was always law enforcement present.
VELEZ-MITCHELL: Got to leave it there. Mr. Kronk, you`re invited on any time.
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