2010.11.29 Defense Initial Penalty Phase Witness List

Ryan Pasley IS on the Defense Penalty Phase Witness List - MuzikMan posted it
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/6947242...ial-Penalty-Phase-Discovery-Response-Redacted

I added info about the witnesses, and posted here
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1t1IKoWtQFXbILJ9pVMwT-c0dXhXOtFw-u5N2jfvVJM0/edit?hl=en
DEFENSE PENALTY PHASE WITNESS LIST

Lazy Julia....thanks Think Tank!

I had suspected strongly, but NOW I know for sure the list is just perfunctory and they have NO, ZERO, intention of calling these folks!! I just started typing my blog thinking how amazing even her best friends and family cannot help her, and I didn't even look at the list. After listening to George again today and also Ryan I am positive that the defense cannot call these folks to the stand, it would be suicide!!!


They literally have no one, except for a teacher to say the Casey I knew when she was a young girl......

If you haven't listened to this one in a long long while, check it out ( it is long ). http://daliagirl33.wordpress.com/2008/11/08/george-anthony-interview-on-july-24-2008/


TT, I had not seen your list, that is excellent, and very helpful, comprehensive. That will come in handy during the trial. Thank you to you, and of course, thank you to our dear friend Muzikman for getting us EVERYTHING!!!!!

I bet part of the reason they wanted this sealed is how truly shocked and offended and even angry some of these folks are going to be to see their names on there, so much so that they may make public statements reflecting that. ooooooch. http://media.trb.com/media/mp3/2008-11/43247799.mp3
 
I have an article I can post to your response. The News Express In Pike County Ky covers the entire thing. It's not a pretty read. My brother had his head blown off in front of four children. Alisha, 4, Libby 3, Ronnie & Holly two year old twins.

PRESTONSBURG — The mournful cries of traumatized children silenced the courtroom Wednesday afternoon, when Det. Ben Cramer, of the Kentucky State Police, played a 911 tape that brought sharp focus to the reality of the scene that took place in the home of Alan and Lisa Tackett, of Abbott, on the evening of March 20, at approximately 6:30 p.m.
It was on that evening that Alan Tackett, 47, and his wife, Lisa, 30, were gunned down sniper-style in their own front yard by bullets allegedly fired by Berry Hall, 45, the uncle of Lisa Tackett, from a second-story window of his home.
According to testimony provided Wednesday by Det. Cramer, Lisa Tackett's dead body, struck once through the chest, was found lying in the front yard of her home, while her husband's body lay half-in, half-out across the threshold of the home's front door. Alan Tackett, according to Cramer, had been struck twice — once in the hand, and again on the right side of his head.
Four children under the age of 5 years old were inside the home at the time of the shootings.
Though Hall, according to Det. Cramer, "made three separate confessions" to the crime, his court-appointed attorney Steven Goble, of Pikeville, entered a plea of not guilty before District Judge James R. Allen on Wednesday afternoon.
"I lost it and I killed them," Det. Cramer said Hall told him on the evening of March 20. Cramer also said that Hall told him that he had been arguing with his niece and her husband earlier that day about "some ongoing issues" involving property lines and a dog owned by the couple that had wandered onto Hall's property. Hall, according to Det. Cramer, had said that "he just had all he could stand and he shot and killed them."
Cramer said that during the course of questioning, he queried Hall in regard to the possible danger that existed for the children in the home. "He repeatedly said that he was in control of himself enough that he knew he would not harm any of the children," Cramer said.
Following the shootings, Hall allegedly entered the home of the slain couple and retrieved the four children, who he then took to his own home, allegedly stepping over the dead bodies of the children's parents in order to do so.
Along with the alleged confessions, examination of the crime scene, and a taped 911 recording of Hall's son alleging that it was his father who had fired the shots that killed Alan and Lisa Tackett, evidence was compelling that it was, indeed, Berry Hall who committed the double murder.
Though Hall's attorney conducted a cross-examination of Det. Cramer's testimony, Hall himself remained quiet, appearing calm throughout the proceeding.
Judge Allen declared that Hall would remain held without bond in the Floyd County Detention Center. Allen also declared that charges against Hall of two counts of murder and four counts of wanton endangerment will be referred to the grand jury.


http://news-expressky.com/
Whoa...
Thanks Tulessa for sharing this with us.
I'm speechless.
Bless you and your family.
 
Whoa...
Thanks Tulessa for sharing this with us.
I'm speechless.
Bless you and your family.

I remember one time in court Mr. George was responding to Jose's argument that they had been too busy to meet a deadline. Mr. George said, Your Honor, we are all busy, Mrs. Drane-Burdick, Mr. Ashton and I have 85-100 active cases on our desks at all times!

Your brother's case being delayed brought the case load to my attention. For every frivolous, ridiculous, childish waste of the court's time the defense causes other cases to be pushed to the back of the pile while the state posecutors have to work on stuff that is just nonsense. There are hundreds of other cases going on there in that county, other families waiting for justice. As a taxpayer it makes me angry the time and money the defense wastes and wastes.

God bless your family, and all of the families waiting for justice.
 
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rucNot0KrbY[/ame]

If you press pause on the 15 second mark of this video ,[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bm8pjjUpCV0[/ame] you will see the photos of the victims the prosecutors kept out during the trial. Don't worry for a second friends. The jury may not hear from a traditional victim's family member the way you are describing....but they will see and love Caylee just through her photos, just as Caylee stole our hearts though we never knew her.
Have the faith of this detective, Tommy Ray!!! [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2L6enoWRcg[/ame]

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2tg1XAQi9I[/ame]
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George Anthony...get ready, see three minute mark......bus is heading your way

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2tg1XAQi9I[/ame]

O/T
I had never looked into this case and had no knowledge of it, only that Cheney keeps mentioning it to the judge in the Serrano case we did jusry selection this way, etc. etc.
I assumed that Cheney won the case, therefeore. Wrong. Also, I had no idea until just now watching it on you tube that the defense rested after the state put on its case...never called one witness, Cheney argued to the jury that there was no evidence against his client, so he need not put on witnesses. I wonder if he will try the same thing in Casey's case. Wow. No hair, no DNA, no physical link to the crime.....nevertheless...he is on death row.

So, in the spirit of completeness and only because of the link to Cheney Mason, here is the entire 48 hours episode. Like Casey's case, there was no physical evidence , no DNA, no fingerprints, etc at the crime scene linking to the defendant, no eye witness, no confession. Cheney will make the same arguments now as he did then. His client sat smug and sure at the defense table. The defendants family proclaimed and STILL proclaim his innocence. Casey Anthony is a case. Like all cases, and as you can see by Mr. Mason adding to his docket, this case will begin and end.
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGhvPx--fFo[/ame]
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[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSZhe46OooQ[/ame]
 
O/T ( cannot edit post ) [ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=6049072&postcount=166"]Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - 2010.11.29 Defense Initial Penalty Phase Witness List[/ame]
two more similarites about the Serrano case I just learned on the show

1. He was also arrested on lesser charges regarding financial matters, then released

2. Like Casey's fall in the courthouse, Serrano took a fall too. You just can't make this stuff up!! It was a struggle to the end. As Ray and other agents escorted a handcuffed Nelson Serrano up the stairs of the commercial flight bound for Miami, he faked, Tommy Ray says, a fall that bloodied his face a little. The flustered flight attendant demanded that the prisoner be left behind in Quito, trying to tug him out of detective Ray's grasp. The pilot intervened and Nelson Serrano was soon wheels-up for Florida charged with the first-degree murder of four people five years prior. He faced a jury almost nine years after the crime. He was found guilty and received four death penalty sentences. That is automatically set for appeal.

So, if , as and when she is found guilty, we can expect to see Casey Anthony's appeal look glaring similar to this one:

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...8NDfCg&usg=AFQjCNG3fRPClCHctEEyhLGmmZJrobxHDg

It is inevitable. Rather than planning a RV ministry, she ought to be studying the appeal process in the State of Florida, but I imagine her thoughts are of zippity do da, what color pony tail holder shall I order, "I have to look good for my audience" as she told her jailmate in a letter. Cheney Mason and Jose Baez will be people she used to know. Someone ought to tell her that. I liken it to the friends on her penalty phase witness list.....they are people she used to know. They are not with her now. If they ever are called to the stand, she will hear it from their lips, just how far from reality that one time, imagined friendship is. She is alone now, and alone she will stay.
 
Thanks TWA

Much less evidence in the Serrano case, dare I say bucketloads less, yet he sits on death row. Proves that juries don't need smoking guns to convict and recommend the DP.

And I agree Mason or whoever will focus in on the lack of direct evidence, dna, finger prints etc and as he did with Tommy Rae accuse him of only looking at one possible suspect. Its the stereotypical defense when you have nothing to offer up that would tend to vindicate your client.

Serrano's nephew was put forth as a possible Soddi. But looks like he was more than willing to do this, perhaps making amends for what he had told the cops about the rental car. In any event it didnt fly with the jury and a similar tactic for ICA is imo doomed to certain failure if not derision, especially after the jury get acquainted with Zanny the nanny and other assorted phantoms.
 
I did know about the Serrano case and while I feel that he did commit the crime, I could not have voted guilty had I been on the jury. After reading as much as I did about the case, watching some of the trial itself, etc. I have 'reasonable doubt' based on the evidence and arguments introduced by the prosecution. that is my dilemma, I think he did it, but I don't think the state proved it beyond a reasonable doubt.
 
O/T ( cannot edit post ) Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - 2010.11.29 Defense Initial Penalty Phase Witness List
two more similarites about the Serrano case I just learned on the show

1. He was also arrested on lesser charges regarding financial matters, then released

2. Like Casey's fall in the courthouse, Serrano took a fall too. You just can't make this stuff up!! It was a struggle to the end. As Ray and other agents escorted a handcuffed Nelson Serrano up the stairs of the commercial flight bound for Miami, he faked, Tommy Ray says, a fall that bloodied his face a little. The flustered flight attendant demanded that the prisoner be left behind in Quito, trying to tug him out of detective Ray's grasp. The pilot intervened and Nelson Serrano was soon wheels-up for Florida charged with the first-degree murder of four people five years prior. He faced a jury almost nine years after the crime. He was found guilty and received four death penalty sentences. That is automatically set for appeal.

So, if , as and when she is found guilty, we can expect to see Casey Anthony's appeal look glaring similar to this one:

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=4&ved=0CCgQFjAD&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nelsonserrano.org%2Fdocs%2Fserrano_initial_brief.pdf&ei=WDc8TfWXI8Gs8AbV8NDfCg&usg=AFQjCNG3fRPClCHctEEyhLGmmZJrobxHDg

It is inevitable. Rather than planning a RV ministry, she ought to be studying the appeal process in the State of Florida, but I imagine her thoughts are of zippity do da, what color pony tail holder shall I order, "I have to look good for my audience" as she told her jailmate in a letter. Cheney Mason and Jose Baez will be people she used to know. Someone ought to tell her that. I liken it to the friends on her penalty phase witness list.....they are people she used to know. They are not with her now. If they ever are called to the stand, she will hear it from their lips, just how far from reality that one time, imagined friendship is. She is alone now, and alone she will stay.
WOW. God bless Tommy Ray for his tenacity.

Thank you for finding the footage for that case. :)

I'm pretty sure the intent of the defense ( CM and JB) is to call no witnesses claiming the State has NOT proven their case. Nowhere else to go, IMO.


ETA: BTW, Mr Cheney was missing the mumbles....
 
I did know about the Serrano case and while I feel that he did commit the crime, I could not have voted guilty had I been on the jury. After reading as much as I did about the case, watching some of the trial itself, etc. I have 'reasonable doubt' based on the evidence and arguments introduced by the prosecution. that is my dilemma, I think he did it, but I don't think the state proved it beyond a reasonable doubt.
Another case coming to trial in May also hinges on an out of town alibi.
Jason Young.
[ame="http://websleuths.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=119"]Michelle Young - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community[/ame]
 
Mac, when I was watching it this morning (couldn't sleep....thank GOD for my earphones and laptop...likely saving my marriage) , I kept thinking that too...wow...they have no proof. So that leads us to the reasonable doubt, and what reasonable will mean to each person. It isn't that they are to have NO doubt. Much like the Scott Peterson case, one can reach a conclusion based on circumstantial evidence, no smoking gun required. I wasn't able to find the entire trial on line, just these snippets, but based on the vedict, I assume the State had enough to convince the jury that a reasonable person could conclude he did it. I think we have enough in this case to reasonably conclude Casey did it.

I don't know if mom or pop in their despertation would agree with Mason and Baez wanting the jury to make inferences by pointing the finger at them as being as likely to have been the ones who may be responsible for this crime, since Cindy already claims she did the computer searches, they both are as likely to have had access to the child's clothing and laundry bag, blanket, etc. If it goes to trial, go along with it or don't ...of course that is going to be what the defense does. MOO

In the penalty phase if we get to that, I wouldn't put anything past Casey to have her attorneys try. It pains me to say it but possible divorce and illness could happen for mom and pop, a full blown trial will be brutal on them. Casey wont care, she will sit there, flat affect, preening.

Regarding Mr. Mason, I have been feeling a bit guilty recently, wondering if I would want folks ridiculing my father or my grandfather when tasks become harder for them and they cannot help it. In real life I would never criticize an elder.

Having now seen him in action in his Serrano trial, I am convinced ....it is stick. He is acting.
When I see Cheney Mason saying constantly to Judge Perry I am old, a hundred times, and telling the judge
"I am old,
I just can't hear you,
I can't, I forget,
I am old"
I sometimes wonder what he is still doing working. He is a wealthy man, he should be enjoying his family and the fruits of his labor now.

The constant whining about his limits and his age, it seems so contradictory to me to his hubris and other personailty of BMOC ( Big Man In the Courtroom),
bullying the courtroom staff about the microphones,
first hearing calling Mr. Ashton "Ignorant",
telling the reporter Ms. Melich she is "Too stupid",
condescending to Judge Strickland "I bet you'll trust me" with an almost or- else tone,
condescending to Judge Perry, "I have been practicing law for forty years and I have never been held in contempt and I am not going to let it happen!"

It is pretty fluid....
give an old man a break and then right back to
very rude...I'll tell you how it is going to be kids tone
and back again.

It is a mockery,
a farse,
just by the sheer fact that he can turn it on and off. He is not senile. He is not suffering from mental problems.

It is stict, and I do not think the jury is going to be the least bit taken in by it. MOO
I am very glad I studied his work this morning, everything is relative. Much like when Kent and Sluetherontheside got us all of Andrea Lyon's colorful lectures, etc.
we knew just what motion she would file next and why. Indeed cut and paste she did, literally, to the point that a few times the other folks names remained on Casey Anthony's legal document in error.
When I finish this case, I never want to study another. These folks drive me nuts! Much like Yuri must have felt about Cindy driving him nuts here.
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzSG0RHKhzk[/ame]
May God forgive me if I am wrong about Mr. Mason's mental condition. I am not a doctor,and of course all of my posts are to be taken as only satire.
 
WOW. God bless Tommy Ray for his tenacity.

Thank you for finding the footage for that case. :)

I'm pretty sure the intent of the defense ( CM and JB) is to call no witnesses claiming the State has NOT proven their case. Nowhere else to go, IMO.


ETA: BTW, Mr Cheney was missing the mumbles....

So this is why he seems so unfamiliar with the entire file, he really is planning on just the phone in effort. You are probably right. I had never considered this, but his hubris is limitless and it is clear he is not studying the ins and outs of this case in serious trial preparation. That is CLEAR!
 
I think the Frye hearing is going to tell the tale, TWA. We'll get to see how the defense is preparing, or rather, to what EXTENT they are preparing, IMO.
 
Oh maaaaaaaaaan hit me with a TON of bricks. <thud>

Call no witnesses,sing a pretty song about what REALLY happened <according to their client> rest their case on the presumption of the State not proving their case, get the Guilty verdict and drop the mitigation for the Death Penalty in Ms Finnells lap.
Holy Moly, I'm calling it NOW.


ETA: After re reading some comments by TWA, I think SHE called it first. :)
 
IMO, It's written all over Nelson Serranos face <the smirk> he THINKS he will be walking away from his charges during his trial. I bet Mr Mason sang him a pretty song, too.


ETA: I noticed Mr Cheney trying to besmirch the reputation of Tommy Ray in the footage. Whatta coinkydink there was a camera rolling when he was sifting through zillions of previously unknown parking receipts. I am of the opinion a camera would be NECESSARY to PROVE/DOCUMENT he found it in the zillions of stored parking receipts.

I can SO see Mr Cheney going after the reputation of investigators in this case, also.
 
George's sister on Penalty Phase Witness List.
Are they going to use her to show that a mental condition runs in the family, and that the family suspected that the Inmate may have the same condition?

Odd that there are no family physicians or counselors on the penalty phase witness list (yet) to confirm a diagnosis of any mental condition of the Inmate!

John Haldie - George’s brother-in-law - Bonita Springs, FL and
Sandra Haldie - George’s sister (Sonie) - Bonita Springs, FL


http://www.cbsnews.com/8601-500251_162-4961774.html?assetTypeId=58
Comment on CBS news video.
DOCUMENT 2909 OF Discovery released in the state's case against Casey Anthony November 26, 2008
excerpt:
JUNE 5, 2009 EMAIL OF SHIRLEY PLESEA (CINDY?S MOTHER) - SENT TO THE POLICE

Shirley Pleasea said in email - "SHE (Cindy) SAYS SHE KNOWS THERE IS A SICKNESS THAT RUNS IN GEORGES FAMILY. HIS SISTER SONIE, IS BI-POLAR, LIKE JEANS SISTER JOAN. COMPULSIVE BEHAVIOUR. OVER SPENDING IS ONE TRAIT. LOTS OF OTHERS. CASEY HAS IT TOO"

http://www.thehinkymeter.com/Library/CMA/interviews/ganthony072408.pdf
George said in his OCSO interview - "... But my sister has had a lot of issues over the years. I'm just wondering of (sic) something skipped somewhere to Casey. I... I don't want to think that."

Another topic for them to testify about is George and Cindy's separation. Here is a quote from Cindy's State Deposition, Part 1 (Click here to download the depo from WFTV, it's on page 72):

Q So why did you separate?
A Lack of trust at that point.
Q Okay. Was there some concern about infidelity?
A No.
Q How did Casey react -- let me backtrack. You actually had a physical separation; correct?
A Yes.
Q And George went where?
A He went down to Bonita Springs and stayed with his sister and then ended up staying with his mom and dad after a while.
 
Sheesh guys how many times do I have to tell you it wasn't just employee of the month it was employee of the year!!!

http://www.wesh.com/r/16947154/detail.html

"She just lucked into a photography job at Universal Studios, not at Universal Studios, but for Kodak, and she has a plaque. She was the employee of the year," Cindy Anthony said.

Casey Anthony has worked for a company that does promotional work for the nightclub Fusion.

Check out the defense spending thread!
And a year later she still persisted this happened. Was refreshing my memory by revisiting Cindy's State depo and found her mentioning the award on page 55: "She had gotten an award that December for Employee of the Year. She had only been there six months." :crazy:
 
And a year later she still persisted this happened. Was refreshing my memory by revisiting Cindy's State depo and found her mentioning the award on page 55: "She had gotten an award that December for Employee of the Year. She had only been there six months." :crazy:

Thank you for that...I thought I remembered something about Employee of the Year after not having been there for a year! I wonder if ICA did make some sort of plaque and present it to CA.
 
IMO, It's written all over Nelson Serranos face <the smirk> he THINKS he will be walking away from his charges during his trial. I bet Mr Mason sang him a pretty song, too.


ETA: I noticed Mr Cheney trying to besmirch the reputation of Tommy Ray in the footage. Whatta coinkydink there was a camera rolling when he was sifting through zillions of previously unknown parking receipts. I am of the opinion a camera would be NECESSARY to PROVE/DOCUMENT he found it in the zillions of stored parking receipts.

I can SO see Mr Cheney going after the reputation of investigators in this case, also.

Well, you know, YM did have the gall to take a vacation.:crazy:
 

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