2011.03.11 Dr. Spitz Report Due Today

[MyTinkieGirl]

But on cross while on the stand Dr. Spitz cannot say, given the conditions she was found in, that Caylee wandered to that spot on her own and died by some mysterious reason. I think the duct tape will be a challenge for him to explain and that is why he was very brief. He's not going to make it hard on himself in his state of health and right now it looks like just his opinion which differs when compared with Dr. G. He would have no purpose to testify if he totally agreed so he finds something to put out there that may or may not fly.

I'm STILL waiting for the defense to find ANY reasons for the nearly "extinct" duct tape, on the gas can AND holding up the Caylee posters, being found on and around Caylee's body.

Since the defense repeatedly requests more $$ for investigating....for THEIR sake...I would hope they're using the $$ wisely and are feverishly looking for ANYONE on God's green earth who has any of that same duct tape in their posession....not to accuse them, just to say "it's not that rare"....or maybe accuse them....but maybe it was an accident....

Ahhhh heck, if I were on the jury, I'd say she's guilty of everything after a few minutes of "deliberating"....order room service and movies...then go to the hotel spa...swim in the pool...THEN tell the judge "we have a verdict" after 8 or 10 hours....guess thats why I wouldn't be there...LOL


"If you can't dazzle them with brilliance...baffle them with BS"

 

[salvarenga]

I hope everyone knows that the picture attached to this article is not Dr. Spitz. It is a picture of Jack Webb, who played Joe Friday on Dragnet, an old tv show that I used to watch.

There is a picture of Dr. Spitz in this interesting article.
http://apps.detnews.com/apps/history/index.php?id=166

As well as this informative article -
http://www.med.wayne.edu/wayne medicine/wm98/living.htm

From the last link:

"My assistant, Diane, tells me all the time, ‘You know, if you wait long enough, all the big cases from around the country will eventually end up right here in your office.’"

 

[AZlawyer]

Is it just me or does this contradict everything the defense has been trying to shove down the throats of the public? This report is trying to give the impression that this could be an accident? "Not at the hands of another" :banghead:. Well, there goes blaming Kronk or the nanny and there goes someone placing Caylee there after ICA was in jail. They are ruling out anyone else otherwise they would contend it was a murder but with another perpetrator. IMO, it basically hands ICA on a silver platter to the death chamber.

Maybe there was a terrible accident, not caused by any kind of child neglect whatsoever, but it somehow sort of "looked" like it was caused by neglect, so Casey was terrified to tell anyone and kept the body in the trunk for a few days, after which a friend of Casey's involved in the underworld agreed to take care of the body, asked for a few items from the A. house, and gave her a script to follow ("Act happy and say that Caylee is in Princess Fairy Land"), and then the friend kept the body until late November 2008, in the meantime aging Caylee's shirt and the duct tape in a nearby swamp, then he--I mean she, because no male DNA was found on the bag or shorts--carefully arranged Caylee's skeleton and other items around the swamp near Casey's house to make it look like SODDI. A terrible accident cleverly disguised as an intentional murder.

:waitasec:

Nah. Never mind.

 

[LambChop]

Maybe there was a terrible accident, not caused by any kind of child neglect whatsoever, but it somehow sort of "looked" like it was caused by neglect, so Casey was terrified to tell anyone and kept the body in the trunk for a few days, after which a friend of Casey's involved in the underworld agreed to take care of the body, asked for a few items from the A. house, and gave her a script to follow ("Act happy and say that Caylee is in Princess Fairy Land"), and then the friend kept the body until late November 2008, in the meantime aging Caylee's shirt and the duct tape in a nearby swamp, then he--I mean she, because no male DNA was found on the bag or shorts--carefully arranged Caylee's skeleton and other items around the swamp near Casey's house to make it look like SODDI. A terrible accident cleverly disguised as an intentional murder.

:waitasec:

Nah. Never mind.

You desperately need a vacation. :skip::skip::skip:

 

[Aedrys]

You desperately need a vacation. :skip::skip::skip:

I figure once this one trial is over, we'll see AZ cashing in a looooooot of vacation time, LOL. :great:

 

[RR0004]

Yup!! Aaaaand....heeeere's Zanny!!! Wooopsy.....NOT!!!

Well...it does keep the door open for an "accidental" death...but, I just don't see how he would be able to explain what poor little Caylee was doing in the woods...dead.

 

[A_News_Junkie]

Well, DNA wasn't found on her clothes, but that doesn't mean they weren't once on her. Would he suggest then that Caylee disrobed after or before the duct tape floated downstream (so to speak) and secured itself to her mandible? This seems like st$pid logic to me.

Nawwwwwwh......wait for it.................. Cindy washed those pants too!

:banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead:
The other line that bugged me was, last line: "I trust this answers your inquiry." <------ I would love to see just what that inquiry was.
(JB, if you are reading -- newsflash, the judge hates games!

 

[LolaMoon08]

Maybe there was a terrible accident, not caused by any kind of child neglect whatsoever, but it somehow sort of "looked" like it was caused by neglect, so Casey was terrified to tell anyone and kept the body in the trunk for a few days, after which a friend of Casey's involved in the underworld agreed to take care of the body, asked for a few items from the A. house, and gave her a script to follow ("Act happy and say that Caylee is in Princess Fairy Land"), and then the friend kept the body until late November 2008, in the meantime aging Caylee's shirt and the duct tape in a nearby swamp, then he--I mean she, because no male DNA was found on the bag or shorts--carefully arranged Caylee's skeleton and other items around the swamp near Casey's house to make it look like SODDI. A terrible accident cleverly disguised as an intentional murder.

:waitasec:

Nah. Never mind.

This is brilliant!!!! :floorlaugh:

Casey's female friend had to be a real life Cinderella is you ask me. Being able to befriend all the little critters in those woods off Suburban Drive and have them come up to her and play a game of fetch with Caylee's bare bones... and that is how the bite marks got there.

Yup, you did it AZlawyer... I am convinced! Do you work for oranges? Florida oranges... not California oranges! :floorlaugh:

ETA: You know, I am waiting for the trial to start and see some of your (joking) theories being brought up.

 

[Sammiejam]

So should Zanny miraculously appear during the trial, should she come running through the doors shouting "IT WAS ME, IT WAS ME - I DO EXIST!!!" - they wouldn't want her charged with murder???

But its neither here nor there anyway because she has pled NOT GUILTY. As in "I HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH IT." Not "Yes, I did it but it was an accident so I staged everything to look like a horrible kidnapping and murder because I didnt want to be blamed for an accidental death."

And there is NO DENYING the fact that the baby was triple bagged and dumped in a pet cemetery with duct-tape around her face. No amount of autopsy "mistakes" can change that.

 

[chakti]

Aren't there pictures taken by CSI before Dr.G ever got her hands on baby Caylee.

Maybe one of the CSIs put the tape on ???

I need to call Hose B !!!!!!

 

[Horace Finklestein]

Someone might have noted it, but they are usually checking the anterior fontanelle, the large 'soft spot'; the degree of synostosis may not have been enough to draw their attention to it, she didn't have any obvious deformity that we could see in photos..

I thought the Dr. (Green?) who stated Caylee was "savagely abused" said she could tell something was wrong from her photos. She was talking about the eyes and head I think (in pics where Caylee was alive).

 

[Aedrys]

You know, it really disgusts me how the media is acting like Dr. Spitz's two page report is somehow a challenge to Dr. G. I mean really? Do they really think the jury is going to throw out common sense here? I know they need headlines, but good LORD it's just ridiculous. One headline from the orlando sentinel blogs asked if Dr. G's conclusions could be wrong. WTF? Really? Dr. Spitz's two pages of crap call into question Dr. G's very thorough and meticulous conclusions? Dear God, MSM, GROW A BRAIN!

The sad thing is, articles like that could really taint the dang jury pool..of course, the SA would have to be lobotomized for Baez and Mason to convince anyone of anything over them, so I guess I shouldn't worry so much, LOL.

 

[Caligram]

Wow!! It took Spitz more than two years to formulate his expert opinion. Was he maybe holding out for a bigger "$$$ thank you" for his knowledgeable examination. Did JB get trapped at the last minute, needing "somebody, anybody" who had seen what was left of Caylee after she was "re-assembled" on the autopsy table. He did admit that he is not bothered by gruesome death remains. I reached my conclusion from his "report" that he lacks compassion for any of the tiniest, most vulnerable humans.

IMO
Poor sweet baby Caylee Marie, your angel wings gave you the freedom to banish the bad memories of what you had to endure on earth.

 

[Capri]

Anyone else thinking that Dr. Spitz might be a bit disgruntled by the fact that he was hired by JB, back when there was plenty of $$$. So, he did the work 2 years ago, now it's JAC rates only. I'm thinking he's just meeting the criteria , not any great revelations, after all it's not like the JAC rates are $5000 a day like the Spector trial was. What did he make total on that one, for testifying? Close to $50, 000? Not happening here, not now anyway. So, he prints up the basic report, criteria met, and he gets paid "something for the efforts he wasted 2 years ago, now to only get a JAC rate. NO way do I think he would have agreed to do this for JAC rates, initially.

 

[lowens1975]

Surely there is more to Dr. Spitz's report that the two pages released? He stated a 'brown substance' was found in the skull. Then he, himself, 'speculates' in his report to what he thinks it might be, but never actually says he sent a sample to a lab and had it identified. And then he goes on to state Dr. G didn't do a thorough enough job?

 

[Aedrys]

Surely there is more to Dr. Spitz's report that the two pages released? He stated a 'brown substance' was found in the skull. Then he, himself, 'speculates' in his report to what he thinks it might be, but never actually says he sent a sample to a lab and had it identified. And then he goes on to state Dr. G didn't do a thorough enough job?

I don't think there is, sadly. Maybe there might be more in his deposition, but that two page report is his whole report, I believe. And Dr. G explained where the brown substance came from. She also felt it wasn't necessary to open the skull when there's no brain to get out. Caylee's remains were all skeletal. Dr. G had far more compassion to Caylee's remains than Dr. Spitz. If anyone didn't do a thorough job, it was Dr. Spitz, not Dr. G.

Funny, though, how the media has run with this two page report like it totally tears down Dr. G's methods and whatnot. It's ridiculous, and it will be ridiculous when presented in court. It'll be the SA and Dr. G tearing down Dr. Spitz instead. (In fact, in my head, I replace the second letter of his name for a more fitting name, LOL.)

 

[lowens1975]

I don't think there is, sadly. Maybe there might be more in his deposition, but that two page report is his whole report, I believe. And Dr. G explained where the brown substance came from. She also felt it wasn't necessary to open the skull when there's no brain to get out. Caylee's remains were all skeletal. Dr. G had far more compassion to Caylee's remains than Dr. Spitz. If anyone didn't do a thorough job, it was Dr. Spitz, not Dr. G.

Funny, though, how the media has run with this two page report like it totally tears down Dr. G's methods and whatnot. It's ridiculous, and it will be ridiculous when presented in court. It'll be the SA and Dr. G tearing down Dr. Spitz instead. (In fact, in my head, I replace the second letter of his name for a more fitting name, LOL.)

Then Dr. G did ALL the work and all this guy did was add enough of his .02 to contradict her and create doubt? Unlike Dr. Spitz, Dr. G took the 'totality' of evidence in consideration. She 'shoots straight' and I respect that. I think jury will too.

 

[LambChop]

Anyone think the state will be able to depose him????

 

[lowens1975]

Anyone think the state will be able to depose him????

Only if they avoid the question of how much he got paid :great:

 

[sleutherontheside]

Anyone think the state will be able to depose him????

Sure, if they want to.

As an example.... In the recent murder trial State of Florida v. Gary Michael Hilton, the defense team called upon Adina Schwartz, a law professor at the John Jay College of Criminal justice as an expert witness.

She did not appear in court during the trial. Instead, she appeared in a pre-taped Skype deposition where both the Prosecution and the Defense asked questions. The jury just watched the video.

So.....IMO.....the SAO will have no problem calling upon Dr. Spitz in some manner.

An aside......Hilton was found guilty and the jury recommended the death penalty. He awaits sentencing, to take place in April.