2011.05.22 Geraldo Rivera - LIVE in Orlando

[MissJames]

Well, I'm glad I missed that !

In an earlier post I saw that Dr. Baden said there was evidence of a drowning . Did he say what?
Seems like he duct tape is more along the lines of deliberate murder,and BTW ,drowning can be deliberate murder ,also.

 

[Wise Old Owl]

Well, I'm glad I missed that !

In an earlier post I saw that Dr. Baden said there was evidence of a drowning . Did he say what?
Seems like he duct tape is more along the lines of deliberate murder,and BTW ,drowning can be deliberate murder ,also.

Yes he did say that. I was trying to type and listen and contain my screaming and yelling. He did say it and I jsut stopped and stared at the TV.

Gerlado replays again at 1 AM EST if anyone wants to watch.

 

[MissJames]

I can imagine Geraldo sitting back, thinking he is somehow casting "reasonable doubt" across the nation, and giving himself a nice pat on the back.

The only problem there is that it's not actually happening. When he was saying that KC has been cast as a monster, vilified, and prematurely judged as guilty, millions of people probably thought to themselves "d@$% straight!"

I suppose when the jury finds her guilty Geraldo will say it was because of the pre-trial publicity and ICA could never get a fair trial.:loser:

 

[Tipstaff]

Creepy how these 'experts' come out of the woodwork and basically say whatever fits the particular show ie Baden and Geraldo. LKB did the same thing JVM then back tracked on a later show. I would like to use one of Judge Perry's backstirkes and take them off the air - oh wait I can it is my off button.

Giving Dr. B a Websleuths account LOL now that is funny. He would run for cover within 5 pages - he couldn't get away with his dribble here. Oh where oh were are my icons when I need them - banging my head - banging my head.

 

[panthera]

Well, I'm glad I missed that !

In an earlier post I saw that Dr. Baden said there was evidence of a drowning . Did he say what?
Seems like he duct tape is more along the lines of deliberate murder,and BTW ,drowning can be deliberate murder ,also.

Exactly. Drowning can be accidental or deliberate, especially when the victim is a two-year-old child. I wouldn't rule it out as the COD if her head was held under water rather than Caylee climbing the ladder and falling into the above-ground swimming pool. However, due to the advanced decomposition, there is no evidence.

MOO

 

[Wise Old Owl]

I suppose when the jury finds her guilty Geraldo will say it was because of the pre-trial publicity and ICA could never get a fair trial.:loser:

I think it is going to depend on how this trial progresses. It is not going to take too long before the DT is obviously scarmbling (and not just for the files on the next witness either). Once it reaches a point where there is no "doubt" - Geraldo will quietly pack up his crew and move on. He'll only stick around as long as it looks like its going for the DT. That's just my little prediction - we'll see.

 

[Oakley]

Clip if ICA "I know that she's alive, bucketload of evidence" interview

Stacie: Women hate her because they relate to being a mom and lack of compassion from her

Tyll: There are moments when ICA is on camera and she flashes her eyes ina way that plays to that generation. She's become like an icon (really - this guy really just said that?)

Stacie: She didn't report her kid missing for 31 days - anyone with a child missing goes into full blown meltdown within minutes. She never showed any emotion.

Tyll - no way will she testify - she'd be eaten alive by the prosecutors.

Dr. Baden: no cholorform in body; there was a suggestion of cholorform in the trunk of the car which is disputed by BOTH sides (???? I didn't get why he said that - BOTH sides?). Its a case more of emotion trumping evidence.

Gerlado talking about OJ and his crime and being acquitted. Asks MF what's the difference here?

MF: If we would have had OJ admitting that he was standing with RG and NS on that stoop and then someone came up and stabbed them and he ran for his life - but he didn't do that. He didn't do what ICA did do. She made up the babsitter and now that's put the child in her custody and her custody alone. She was the last one to see the child. Its a better path than OJ left.

BBM A 'suggestion of chloroform?' lol. Guess he didn't get the memo from Dr Vass. Try off the charts. Who does he think he's fooling?

 

[feddup]

Baden is washed up, imo. No chloroform in her body-- well, there wasn't a body. shoot

And.....Pam Bondy (sp) said on the 48 HRS show that it dissipates fast in a body. I agree, there wasnt much of Caylee left by the time they found her

 

[MissJames]

BBM! REALLY? Evidence of DROWNING??????? He's one heck of a ME/forensic pathologist who can determine COD as drowning WITHOUT soft tissue to examine! Most I've :innocent: ever met have utilized tissue sections under a 'scope to confirm the external evaluation & internal organ evaluation. (PS: that's gross anatomy at its finest!)
(HMMMMMMM maybe HE "knows" that there were "frothy bubbles" or discharge on the duct tape (you know, the tape that was exposed to the elements for 6 months!)

Surprise....BLOCKED cavities that prevent the intake of O2 equals death, not very many toddlers are that coordinated to place a piece of duct tape themselves, never mind THREE! Now applying LOGIC and experience, I'm stating that the tape adds to the presumption of homicide NOT suicide, accident or a natural death.:maddening:

EXPERTS "contradicting the smell" will be few and far between, LAY persons will be CONFIRMING the smell.:maddening:

:twocents: Would somebody PLEASE sign Michael Baden, M. D. up for a websleuths account, it appears to me :innocent: that he needs to brush up on the information regarding the case! :floorlaugh:

Perhaps he is confusing one of his fictional cases with this actual case.
I expect MB and LKB to release a new book ,any day now.

 

[Zoe Bogart]

Wow...don't remember the video clip with CA and Jose where she claims that the father of the child is dead...then states "I don't know the last name of the father of the child..I mean Caylee" My God.
(Btw...Jose looks 10 years younger in this clip)

If Cindy saw the obit, how could she not know the guy's surname?

Cindy, Cindy, Cindy :shakehead:

 

[Wise Old Owl]

And.....Pam Bondy (sp) said on the 48 HRS show that it dissipates fast in a body. I agree, there wasnt much of Caylee left by the time they found her

AND Pam Bondi is now State Attorney General for the State of Florida! I don't care what Geraldo thinks about the elected DA in Orlando. She was very involved in this case in the beginning. Then she quit doing the TV appearances and ran for Attorney General. She won. You can bet she's been following this case very closely from her office. She even used to be on Gerlaod's show. Maybe that's adding to his displeasure of the elected politicians......oh who knows with him?

 

[Tipstaff]

If Cindy saw the obit, how could she not know the guy's surname?

Cindy, Cindy, Cindy :shakehead:

Yes, leave it up to CA to claim she can't remember the father of her grandbaby's surname. Lies all lies.

 

[Tipstaff]

CA's testimony will be as fictionalized as ICA's. How has she has escaped obstruction charges to date?

Wonder if CA is willing to perjure herself when called to testify?

 

[Wise Old Owl]

Does anyone remember when Geraldo said something to the effect that Caylee "choked on her pablum" and now the State wants to kill her mother? I came very close to almost breaking my TV that day. It was in the very beginning when him and JB were bff's.

Since then, he's backed almost completely off this case. Every great once in a while he'll mention it. Until now - we're at trial.

IMHO he went to Orlando because of the enormity of this case media-wise. Everyone who's anyone is going to be there. They've erected a media village to handle all the outlets (Casey Town - and I still say it should have been named CAYLEE TOWN). Anyway, he's a big fish in a big pond down there. He'll hang around for a while - let's see how things go this first week.

 

[okiedokietoo]

Thank you for posted this - all of you patient WS'ers! Your posts were great!

 

[LinasK]

RBBM

I would have to argue against Geraldo on this point.

Bonnie Parker died in 1934. Geraldo was not around at that time to know what the "feel" of the public was. I would have to guess that there was plenty of "hatred" towards her and Clyde because of the murders they committed.

Susan Smith was hated. She drowned her two precious boys when she could have easily given them to their father instead. Susan helped herself some by telling LE where the boys were. I personally feel alot of "hatred" towards Susan and would have preferred that she had been given the death penalty.

Andrea Yates is in a class by herself and IMO should not be in the same batch as the others. Andrea clearly had mental issues that were not taken care of even though the signs were clearly visible. Andrea, once on the proper meds, has been in severe pain because of her actions. Andrea never tried to cover up what she did. Andrea lives in her own constant hell because of her actions.

Casey has tried to cover up what she has done. Casey has never shown any remorse whatsoever for her actions. Casey decided to remain quiet and hope that Caylee would not be found. Casey (IMO) suffers from no mental illness that would explain her actions. Because of these things many do feel a "hatred" towards her. Many also feel that the best outcome at the end of her trial is a guilty verdict followed by LWOP or death.

Geraldo (if he is a parent) needs to remember what being a parent feels like. How would he feel if one of his children died by accident? Would he kill one of his children, cover up the crime and go partying because he now has his "freedom"? Perhaps he needs to get away from Baez some and check out the discovery and other documents that have been released.

MOO

F.Y.I., Geraldo is a parent, he also has a law degree...

 

[kaRN]

I got news for them (DT). I've talked to ALOT of young 20 something GUYS and they all would FRY her in a heartbeat!!! So, I don't think the DT trying to get men on the jury is going to work for them at all.

ITA especially after JG and TL testify. KC isn't a dream girl, she's a nightmare.

 

[GutFeeling!]

Does anyone remember when Geraldo said something to the effect that Caylee "choked on her pablum" and now the State wants to kill her mother? I came very close to almost breaking my TV that day. It was in the very beginning when him and JB were bff's.

Since then, he's backed almost completely off this case. Every great once in a while he'll mention it. Until now - we're at trial.

IMHO he went to Orlando because of the enormity of this case media-wise. Everyone who's anyone is going to be there. They've erected a media village to handle all the outlets (Casey Town - and I still say it should have been named CAYLEE TOWN). Anyway, he's a big fish in a big pond down there. He'll hang around for a while - let's see how things go this first week.

He isn't a big fish ... he is the kind of fish you see laying on the beach all shrivelled up .... a has-been. The man sickens me.

 

[katydid23]

I can imagine Geraldo sitting back, thinking he is somehow casting "reasonable doubt" across the nation, and giving himself a nice pat on the back.

The only problem there is that it's not actually happening. When he was saying that KC has been cast as a monster, vilified, and prematurely judged as guilty, millions of people probably thought to themselves "d@$% straight!"

And too bad for Geraldo, but the jury is already selected and will NOT be watching his rant tonight. But nice try...

 

[gngr~snap]

I'm watching Geraldo and wow!! JB looked like a baby! Gawd he has aged!!!