2011.06.09 Sidebar (Trial Day Fourteen):

[GetSmart]

I think Casey was drinking more today than she usually does. There were two empty bottles to her right front and one in front of her. Can to much water make someone up chuck?

my exact thought... If I drink alot of water I
barf ...

 

[strawberry]

Oh well, at least I'll get to watch all of today's testimony tonight.

 

[rosepetal1065]

Chest pains does not automatically mean a 24 hour hospital stay. I've had panic attacks since the age of 14. I'm now 33. Over the years I've gone to the hospital many times for them when I've felt they've gotten out of control.....never once have they kept me overnight.

On my unit..we keep all prisoners complaining of chest pain for at least 24 hrs..even longer, if they come in on the weekends, when there's nobody to conduct a stress test.

 

[Melanie]

The evidence today was enough to make anyone ill. A break was probably welcomed by everyone. IMO

My thoughts are with the jurors and what they have to relive this afternoon/evening. I hope the judge throws in some massages for those folks! I know I could use one.

Hugs to everyone - it's been a tough day.

Mel

 

[Stella5]

I think Casey was drinking more today than whe usually does. There were two empty bottles to her right front and one in front of her. Can to much water make someone up chuck?

Most definitely. You can also bring on water poisoning which causes your electrolytes to go totally unbalanced and can mimic an anxiety attack and it's symptoms. Fast breathing, fast heart rate, feeling like you're going to vomit, your skin feels like it's crawling, etc... my friends little boy did this last summer on a dare from a friend "Can you drink 10 bottles of water in 10 minutes"... he ended up in the ER.

 

[HRCODEPINK]

I think Casey was drinking more today than she usually does. There were two empty bottles to her right front and one in front of her. Can to much water make someone up chuck?

Yes, too much water can make you upchuck. In fact, too much water could kill you.

ETA: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16614865/ns/us_news-life/t/woman-dies-after-water-drinking-contest/

Sorry, that was a link from this morning, the right one is there now. Don't know why it did that.

 

[darcedarce]

Sorry, to throw a spanner into the works of this KC slagging fest (as fun as I know it can be) but do we have an objective basis for concluding that KC was fabricating illness?

TBH, it is quite easy to see how someone faced with all this evidence and as I understand explicit crime scene photos could come over bad. I must admit this is one of the few occasions I agree with Bill S.

Edit: I just came into watching the trial just as it was recessing so haven't seen all of the events up until recess.

Could be but she didn't even look at the pictures.

 

[BigFatMommyDog]

:rocker: :rocker: I totally agree !! The attention today was on Caylee today -- not ICA !

Tomorrow will be VERY interesting !

...Perhaps, but I think she read that as the attention was on her and what she did, and was not how she orchestrate it. She pulled her self-pity sword out and fell on it.

It was all about her - she cannot view the world any other way.

MissJames a few posts back described it beautifully as a (paraphrase) slinking malevolent animal that seeks it prey in darkness and scuttles away sniveling when light is shined upon it. I'd say she was just hit with a big old ray of sunshine

 

[Quiche]

She's going to be loaded to the gills tomorrow. Just a guess...

 

[Solomisskitty]

paraphrased:
In my experience the guilty defendants get sick and the innocent ones get angry when this type of evidence is shown. - Bill Shaeffer

Guess someone should have told this to Baez and Casey prior!

 

[greycoupon]

Not to defend Casey but I have a panic disorder so plenty of experience with this, she could have been fine this morning or an hour ago and this just came on. Realizing she was sunk and her defense was schitzo (thanks Bill) could certainly trigger one.

 

[logicalgirl]

We just witnessed an almost perfect reenactment and mimicking of Cindy who broke down the other day with the head going down further and further, seeming to be ill, and needing help to walk away. Disgusting.

LOL - Well sort of, eh? If you took that picture minus the emotion Cindy was feeling then yes, that was a pretty fair enactment - sure!

But ICA forgot to insert the emotive icon while she was at it - so not impressed.

 

[Melanie]

On my unit..we keep all prisoners complaining of chest pain for at least 24 hrs..even longer, if they come in on the weekends, when there's nobody to conduct a stress test.

Really? Wow - the prisoners get better treatment than my husband. He suffered from AFIB for years (pain, heart beating out of control). The emergency room never kept him overnight. Once they got the HB under control, they sent him home. Could be an hour, could be 2. I think the most was 4-6 hours. He did finally have surgery to fix it, but more often than not, I had to keep watch over him.

MOO

Mel

 

[momshrink]

I think ICA is really sick. I think she made herself sick as she relived what she did. Guilt will make you very sick, it can disable you. Usually nausea is connected with fear, pain with guilt. I think we were seeing nausea - which makes sense with ICA. Fear of what is going to happen to her as she sees the evidence pile up. The illness is real, IMO, but pay attention to the cause.
When she heard the news of Caylee's remains being found, she complained of the chains (shackles) being too tight and hurting - that was guilt IMO.
Today was fear for herself.

 

[jon_burrows]

My 11 year old fakes illness to get out of school better than that. Whatever.

She was seen smiling just minutes before that! Anyone can huff air in and out, look down and cover their mouths! Where was the pre-barf sweat, or where was the green around the gills look? Whatever. Just when you think you can't get more disgusted with her --- she finds a way to help you along.

BBM-Exactly. I tried to explain that in a post earlier. You said it much better than me. She didn't even remove her sweater.

As she left the courtroom she held onto the chairs and acted like she couldn't walk. The deputies held onto her as she wobbled out like she had a broken leg. Puuullleease, the defense should have spent some money on some acting lessons.

Fake Fake Fake

ICA finally realizes she is at the last hallway.



IMO

 

[txsvicki]

She certainly was able to go on after supposedly seeing Caylee's limp wet body. Yacking on the phone and on computer all day. Watching movies and sleeping with Tony all night and next day. No one found any vomit or proof of trips to the ER at all.

 

[KathrynL]

Dream on! No, just got "ill" too much of a reality check. Came back from recess and was still reacting so HHJP shut down the court for the day.

Bob Kealing mentioned that it was strange because from where he sat ICA did not appear to even be looking at the monitor or the screen with the pictures...

He is clearly not buying that she is upset because it's about Caylee...

Let's see if he holds that thought throughout the evening...he was really motor-mouthing in front of the camera like stressed people do just after they have witnessed something awful.

Perhaps it was the steamroller of reality rolling over her. So far in the case I have not bought into the defense theory, but have no clear idea of what happened to Caylee before she ended up in the trunk of the car (I do find the testimony about the death smell overwhelming and to be fact). While observing her today I went between thinking it was an act/distraction and thinking that her wall of BS-even to herself-came crashing down and she was on the edge of puking or passing out. It couldn't have been the images, she did not look/peek at them even once.

I am hoping she will plea. She should have done it long ago. Not holding my breath tho.

 

[salvarenga]

Andrea Lyon will be on 20/20 on Friday night.....go figure!

Just saw this on Twitter.

 

[cityslick]

I hate her with every fiber of my being...no surprise there

I don't. There are better things to waste my feelings on than on someone I neither know or care about. If she truly is guilty (all signs point to yes) then she will get her condemnation, one way or the other.

 

[robotdog]

she will beg for a plea.
the only real question is, will the state give her one?

she is gutless, and all of her evil is showing up in plain sight and there is no where to run and this will pain her more than the reason we are at this trial

GUTLESS