2011.06.16 Sidebar Thread (Trial Day Twenty)

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I am upset for Caylee, and also I realized today that this year is the first Father's Day without my grandpa. He passed away last year. I've been a mess all day. My heart is just aching right now. I am going to need some wine when I get home tonight.
 
Do they even have to continue with that defense? I can't see them pursuing it unless Casey takes the stand. It doesn't even seem like they're providing a defense now - they're just trying to put reasonable doubt in the jurors minds.

IMO they won't bring it up again because they don't even believe it and have no way of proving it. Otherwise they would be hammering that point home every chance they got. I may be wrong - but I think they are going to abandon it and hope the jury doesn't remember their opening statement. If they don't bring it up again neither can the SA right?

If they abandon it how will they explain the 31 days? That shocking theory was used to justify the shocking behavior of their client. So how can they ignore that OS now?

I think the jury will be pretty angry and even disgusted if the DT ignore those claims they made so forcefully in their opening.
 
Bill Shaeffer didn't think Baez made any inroads today. He thought at one point he had scored some points early on with the second witness but when he didn't sit down and kept on and on with the DNA felt he lost the jury. K. Belich stated the jury become inattentive after a while.

His opinion is that he did not poke any holes in the State's case at all.
 
Jose Baez: "Lee Anthony so wanted to follow in the footsteps of his father..." :sick: Like Lee was watching while George molested Casey? What is Jose saying here? :confused:
 
Nekkidness prevention:

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http://green.nd.edu/assets/10568/water_bottles.jpg

If, after consuming a bottle of water, you still feel the urge to get nekkid, or find that you have to crawl on all fours across a rolling and pitching floor to get to the restroom, I would urge you to check out the Basement Party thread down in the Parking Lot, where nekkid and tipsy are merely lifestyle choices. :giggle:

Babydoll....you don't wanna see my hiney hiney ho...in this thread? Otay!:floorlaugh:
 
I don't see an HLN thread tonight...sorry if this is off-topic:

Vinnie P was just talking about the "alledged fight" that KC & CA had the night before Caylee went missing. CA was telling the story of watching the video of her father and Caylee that Father's day night after the baby's bath...

She said that she and Casey were crying while watching the video...

So when did she discuss grandma SP's stolen money?? Did CA cry because KC could be so heartless to steal from an old man?? Did it escalate?

Just wondering if any anyone knows when CA confronted KC about that theft?

:tyou:
 
I am upset for Caylee, and also I realized today that this year is the first Father's Day without my grandpa. He passed away last year. I've been a mess all day. My heart is just aching right now. I am going to need some wine when I get home tonight.

:grouphug: for you :(
 
Maybe to remove the bamboo root?

:floorlaugh: I live many states north of Florida, on the east coast. I have bamboo in my yard courtesy of the previous owners who planted it over 18 years ago. We have cut it, burned it, poisoned it and still it lives to multiple like bunnies.

I cannot use a shovel to cut the roots. They grow deep in the soil and have these thick runners under ground that take over the yard. The only way we were able to cut a root was to dig around the root and use a machete. It's an ugly and messy process. Yes, you can mow the little shoots and they die out. But for every little sucker you mow, 50 more shoot up in different locations in the yard. I cuss that guy every year. Oh and walking on them, no problem. My grandkids and dogs run all over those small shoots and no one has "cut" their feet as CA claimed. Sheeze.
 
Was an fbi witness asked today who she performed a paternity test on? I'm confused about what kind of tests they were performing. If she did perform paternity tests who did she perform them on?


The FBI was requested to perform DNA patterns on ALL of the ANTHONY family @ Hopespring Dr. then those results can be utilized to R/O these folks if Caylee had been found sooner with incriminating "stuff" around her.

PATERNITY TESTS are quite simply defined as a comparison of the DNA patterns of 3 individuals:

The KNOWN mother/female, the KNOWN child and the UNKNOWN male.


The differing results at each loci of the female are charted, the results of the child are charted and the loci results of the unknown male are "matched" against the child.


female child male
Example: loci 1 X, Z X,H Y,H
 
loci 2 F,G G,G I,G
SO the child above is the child of the female and male.
Example loci 1 X,Z X,H Z,Y
loci 2 F,G G,G A, B
This child is NOT the result of the mating of the female & male above.





SIMPLIFIED example, of course :innocent:

a great site for the non-scientist! http://www.scientific.org/tutorials/articles/riley/riley.html
 
:floorlaugh: I live many states north of Florida, on the east coast. I have bamboo in my yard courtesy of the previous owners who planted it over 18 years ago. We have cut it, burned it, poisoned it and still it lives to multiple like bunnies.

I cannot use a shovel to get to the roots. They grow deep in the soil and have these thick runners under ground that take over the yard. The only way we were able to cut a root was to dig around the root and use a machete. It's an ugly and messy process. Yes, you can mow the little shoots and they die out. But for every little sucker you mow, 50 more shoot up in different locations in the yard. I cuss that guy every year. Oh and walking on them, no problem. My grandkids and dogs run all over those small shoots and no one has "cut" their feet as CA claimed. Sheeze.

Round-up.
 
So, Casey came around here, and went back and then George said...and then Casey cried and cried and cried(although hours later a Blockbuster and for 31 days and 3 years she has not been able to cry because George molested her)and then borrowed the shovel...why?

If George was at the house, why not ask George for a shovel?


Psssttt . . . . she wanted to surprise him with digging up the bamboo!
 
Bill Shaeffer didn't think Baez made any inroads today. He thought at one point he had scored some points early on with the second witness but when he didn't sit down and kept on and on with the DNA felt he lost the jury. K. Belich stated the jury become inattentive after a while.

His opinion is that he did not poke any holes in the State's case at all.

I concur.. it was like: let's review the state's case against my client (lol)
 
Bill Shaeffer didn't think Baez made any inroads today. He thought at one point he had scored some points early on with the second witness but when he didn't sit down and kept on and on with the DNA felt he lost the jury. K. Belich stated the jury become inattentive after a while.

His opinion is that he did not poke any holes in the State's case at all.

Interesting. IMO the defense did an excellent job discounting the sticker evidence. If I was on the jury, I wouldn't even consider it.
 
my opinion of where the DT is going with this is (and don't throw things at me y'all) that Caylee drown in the pool, because of the abuse ICA didn't know who the father was but she believed it was GA or LA and GA thought he was the father, so they panicked out of shame of the truth coming out (or GA panicked at the thought of the truth coming out) so HE said they'd make like it was a kidnapping(taping that poor baby like that?). They had a few hours to come up with the lies they'd tell, then he told ICA to go and act like everything was normal, which she did wonderfully. He said he'd take care of Caylee's remains..... but then with his extra set of keys went to where he knew she'd be and in placed the remains in the trunk. Then when she noticed the smell and eventually looked - she freaked out and just left the car saying she was out of gas. Then of course diabolical GA went and removed Caylee from the trunk and Casey didn't know where he put it.

That is about the only way they can weave it to make the OS jive with the evidence so far. of course that means they'd have to admit Caylee was in the trunk - I guess they could just say she didn't look in the trunk - ??
 
I don't see an HLN thread tonight...sorry if this is off-topic:

Vinnie P was just talking about the "alledged fight" that KC & CA had the night before Caylee went missing. CA was telling the story of watching the video of her father and Caylee that Father's day night after the baby's bath...

She said that she and Casey were crying while watching the video...

So when did she discuss grandma SP's stolen money?? Did CA cry because KC could be so heartless to steal from an old man?? Did it escalate?

Just wondering if any anyone knows when CA confronted KC about that theft?

:tyou:
I don't believe it was determined when exactly CA confronted KC about the theft. A neighbor heard they had a big fight close to the 16th but he wasn't sure what today exactly I think. Either way it was never verified if there really was a fight and what the fight was about.
 
Jose Baez: "Lee Anthony so wanted to follow in the footsteps of his father..." :sick: Like Lee was watching while George molested Casey? What is Jose saying here? :confused:

you are referring to the defense opening statement here right? THANK YOU! I actually had been hoping to re watch and transcribe before the defense team was up to see what all their "straw men" were in the argument... and this is a huge one of them... thank you for bringing this back up! ((I actually ran out of vitriol to watch and transcribe it...shhhhhh... well.. we all know it was horrible and all over the place and truly... like 30 minutes into it I had 50 straw men!!!!!!!and btw the state has knocked over most of the ones I wrote down))
 
Baez is trying to get information in from his opening statement by being shady, and by insinuation. For example, today in the mentioning of Lee and the paternity of Caylee. He got the idea out there, in spite of objections and HHJBP. He will probably try to get information in about Kronk, George, and Casey this way. The more he can sneak in, the fewer questions he has to ask of Casey on the stand. I hope the State stays on their toes and anticipates his shenanigan's.


We love you Caylee Marie. Dance with the Angels.
 
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