2011.06.20 Sidebar Thread (Trial Day Twenty-three)

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sunny hostens...i know shes paid to give the defense pov, however


she also represents herself as a expert who helps the viewer understand whats happening.


she gets an F on this interpretation:

as to dr <modsnip> outrage that the skull wasn't opened. she said the defense may have scored because the jurors will want to know why it was not and thats good for the dt.

OR

since Dr G. did not open it, the jurors may discount Dr G's testimony, since dr. s. criticized it.

and thats a win for the DT

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

and thats it. those are the only two alternatives she offers to help the viewer understand the issue.

she did not offer a third, and most likely, alternative, which is that JA points out to the jury that it was not necessary to cut a whole in the skull (as is normally done when a brain is present) because there was ingress available elsewhere.

which JA DID in questioning dr s. and WILL DO again. He WILL make it plain to the jury that dr s's disagreement does not pass the smell test.

and sh's ignoring that most likely alternative, is inexcusable, imo.

playing the devils advocate is one thing, and I get it. but this is too much.

sunny hosten needs to be sanctioned. oh wait, this is TV. what am I thinking?

I saw this too...and Sunny kept saying, in fact, said at least 3 times, that maybe Jean C. could tell us how the jury reacted to Dr. Spitz' testimony....they went back to Ryan Smith and Jean was not asked....I screamed at the TV "ASK JEAN!!!" Nada! Didn't Kathi Belich say that 2 jurors smirked during Dr. Spitz' testimony? OK, not shouting at you guys, but

I HATE INSESSION TALKING HEADS!​
 
Puleeeeeeeeeeeez, someone...was this all on the DT...or was the State responsible as well for what happened today?

It is on JB totally, but JP yelled at the lawyers for both sides. Some say this was not to show partiality, others are saying that JB (and therefore ICA) got away with playing dirty pool again.
 
Puleeeeeeeeeeeez, someone...was this all on the DT...or was the Stat responsible as well for what happened today?

The State pointed out that he deposed the witness on Sunday afternoon. But, that he needed time to go over the deposition. Also there was another witness JB was going to call that came to JA on Sunday with a report and a 45 slide Power Point presentation. This witness had not been deposed. So, JA said he would like some time to prepare for these witnesses.
And that he was going to prepare sanctions against JB because he had clearly broken JP's orders set in December. So, then JB got up and acted a fool and called accused JA of deliverately sabotaging the trial. Judge said neither of the DT witnesses could testify today and apparently JB didn't have anyone else ready so court was dismissed. Judge gave JB and thorough tongue lashing and said he would deal with him at the end of the trial.

I think I got it all, but if not anyone please jump in. As far as your question I don't think the state had anything viral to do with today's occurrences. I believe they were warranted and apparently so did the judge. iirc
 
I have read pages and pages about how strange it was that Caylee wasn't pictured with any other children. I can tell you that when I had my son I was 21 and none of my friends or anyone I hung out with had kids. I was the only one so I have no pictures of my son with any other kids either. There were no kids around except for the park. If I went to park to play and took pictures with other kids other mothers would find that very odd to say the least. IMO
 
Ok, I think the woozy is catching up with me again, it's time for a nap. I'm not making much sense even to me.
See y'all later or maybe tomorrow.
 
Why would he want a mistrial, when an acquittal would be better for his client? Wouldn't there be another trial somewhere down the road? (I should ask this in the lawyer's thread.)
I'm not trying to take up for him, by any means, I just think he is not cut out for this kind of case and really thinks he can get by with these little infractions. Some people are just not cut out for it.

He may not think he can get an acquittal without getting iffy testimony in ( and good bit of what we've seen of it tends to be rather specious IMHO).

Mistrial may offer the opportunity for double jeopardy to apply (that's been debated sixteen ways to midnight today and there are various posts that detail the scenarios in this thread somewhere)

But what I think he is doing is throwing the judges need to protect the rightt of the accused back at him and say - "see I don't need to abide by the rules of the court because doing so disadvantages my client - and you can't do a damn thing about it..." or else it will be a mistrial/appeal-able. That's the hostage situation, or Catch22 if you will
 
Does anyone have a link to the picture of precious Caylee sitting between the prosecutors,This pic says it all and would love to share with some of my friends.It sent shivers down my spine!

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ITA
He absolutely HAD TO hire an attorney. That DT bus was aiming right for him and he needed some legal protection. He had every right and every valid reason to seek counsel because he is an innocent man about to be scapegoated by Casey and her team. If he had not done that, and had unwittingly spoken to the PI, he could have been swept up even further into this fiasco. imoo

so the Motion to Quash Subpoena today had to do with him?
 
I think he wants a mistrial because he wants out...he would not have to be on board the next time around and that way, he is not the losing attorney of record. I don't even think he cares if he is disbarred at this point, I think he has his eye on other things. He knows there won't be an aquittal, so a mistrial is next best thing for him, as he can't count on a hung jury to get one. I think he will cause one deliberately if his antics alone don't do it. If he blurts out something that can't be ignored, or if Casey does, judge might have to call one, as much as he hates to do it.


You pretty much covered it except for the oportunity it will give him to broadcast his face and bloviate and whine about the unfairness of it all.
 
LOL! Just watched the beginning of his 'interrupted testimony' from Sat. and Rodriguez stated that he 'built the fences at the Body Farm.' Not exactly what Dr. Vass does there. I wish the state would call Dr. Bass (is he still living?) during their rebuttal phase and let him tell all about his 'co-founder-Rodriguez.' :floorlaugh:

Dr Bass is still living.

I think by fences he meant he was one of the research students who together in 1981 established the tiny plot that came before the physical body farm in 198. They got their first body donation in 1981.

Dr. Rodriguez was the first to study the presence of blowflies I believe. It was in one of the videos I posted pages ago.

In one of those links it explains what Dr. Vass is doing - it's extremely interesting. Going to download Dr. Bass's book tonight on my kobo when I get home from work.
 
I hate Fox News and people like Shepard Smith. They love to create drama by saying that its not a slam dunk conviction for the state and that the judge is biased for the prosecution so there will definitely be a cause for appeal etc etc.

Thats such baloney
 
IMO it was the DT but HHJP addressed both sides.

Can I add to that and say, JP always addresses "both sides/all attorneys" to preserve (IMHO) the appearance of fairness. <----- and very wise of him too! I think he tries to be fair to the bone. I believe he words things specifically to both sides so that 'down the road' someone doesn't play the 'not fair, biased against me' card.
 
Sorry if this has been asked and answered.....

Who is the good looking young man w/ glasses and dark blonde hair who sits behind the podium, in front of the spectators? He's been there every day. Thanks.

I would like to know too.
Someone said that he is the Judge's Intern.
I have seen him go in and out of the door that the Judge comes in and out of.
The Judge called him back there today.
 

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That is yet to be seen. He got a lawyer and is fighting having to take the stand as a witness who says he knows nothing.

I dont understand that.

He says he knows nothing because it is true. He did not even have the phone number that JB is claiming he used to have convos with GA. The man is just another victim of this most desperate defense. He's pretty much been cleared and will not be testifying.
 
I love it! But, I think (not sure) most of my previous pictures were removed, even though I tried to avoid any improper labeling. I have seen similar or worse here, but I do not think I will post mine. I DO enjoy this kind of humor... so please carry on!

There used to be a thread in the parking lot with pics, photoshopped, jib-jab videos :floorlaugh:
but IMHO I would ask a mod first. IIRC that thread got locked up with the key thrown away.
 
Actually other than the victim in this case, Caylee, the one I feel most sorry for is HHJP. HHJP is backed into a corner and JB knows it. And I know how absolutely angry HHJP must be about it. JB knew he could willfully disobey HHJP's order and there was nothing HHJP could really do about it or risk handing ICA a easily appeal-able verdict. And you add in CM egging JB on telling him there is nothing HHJP can do and you can see how we got to where we are at now. JB was DETERMINED to run this case trial by ambush. And that's what he's doing, and is getting away with it.

Although we'll see how this plays out for JB after the trial is over. We'll just see how well it worked out for him to royally piss off one of the most well respected and highest ranking judges in Orange County.

I predict that we will have many more delays before the defense finally rests. This will be a reoccurring theme. JB will elicit some testimony of an expert not contained in their depo or report ON PURPOSE and then HHJP will have to stop the proceedings to give the SA time to depose the expert again about some brand NEW findings.
 
I would like to know too.
Someone said that he is the Judge's Intern.
I have seen him go in and out of the door that the Judge comes in and out of.
The Judge called him back there today.

I believe he is the HHJP's legal aid
 
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