2011.06.29 Sidebar Thread (Trial Day Thirty-One)

[kantoo]

What were you watching it on?

HLN, whatever show comes on from 4-5 central time

 

[Ricki]

Yes I agree and shocked I never thought he would turn on her I even thought he was going to admit to molestation just to help her case I am so proud of George today he stood up for Caylee...

I listened to GA's testimony at work. It took all i could muster not to cry at my desk. I am so happy he is finally admitting in his own way that KC did this to his Caylee. I think the final straw for George was seeing LA cry on the stand. He then realized that he did in fact raise a daughter that did the heinous deed and she is not stopping until she destroys the entire family.IMO

 

[Talina]

As much as that was torture, the grief doctor didn't realize that her story about the Mother sitting out with a blanket and umbrella in the rain because she was so worried about her child being alone; was going to be a perfect ending to her testimony and thanks to JA, he made sure it was the ending.

Caylee's lifeless body lay in the woods and her Mother was content to watch a movie and lay in bed with a man while her child was surrounded by garbage, mud, debris and water.

BBM

Unlike some attorneys, LDB and JA seem to very well know when to say "no further questions".

IMO

 

[Bullwinkle]

"WKMG-Channel 6 legal analyst Mark NeJame said the case will be taught in law schools as an example of what not to do. “This is, in my opinion, a horribly laid out defense strategy,” NeJame said."

More here: A legal landmark — for the wrong reasons?

 

[cluciano63]

Poor HLN...when this is over their ratings will go right back to pre-trial days...

 

[Dr.Fessel]

HLN, whatever show comes on from 4-5 central time

TY Kantoo!!!

 

[fifteen89]

"WKMG-Channel 6 legal analyst Mark NeJame said the case will be taught in law schools as an example of what not to do. “This is, in my opinion, a horribly laid out defense strategy,” NeJame said."

More here: A legal landmark — for the wrong reasons?

LOL. Just before I turned off the tv I heard someone (Casey Jordan perhaps) say the Defense needs to pull a rabbitt outta their hats and Nejame said 'it will need to come from somewhere lower than their hats'. LMAO.

 

[Wishbone]

Caylee. That little life, so full of innocence and discovery about the world. The sweet singing voice, the enthused flipping through a book, swimming with her grandmother, just starting out on the road of her life. Then to be murdered in a horrific death and to be cast away in the dark, in the rain, in the blistering heat, where wild things roam, where filth is. I cannot fathom it. I know it, in my head. But I look at ICAs hands, those wringing hands, and I can't understand how or why someone could not put their child first. I see her and she sits coldly, watching out for herself, enjoying the emotional torture of others. There is no remorse, no accepting of any responsibility. It is just stunning and appalling. Scary.

Her hands have always bothered me. They are just evil and she wrings them in the same manner that I suspect Pontius Pilate washed his hands.......

 

[JSR]

I listened to GA's testimony at work. It took all i could muster not to cry at my desk. I am so happy he is finally admitting in his own way that KC did this to his Caylee. I think the final straw for George was seeing LA cry on the stand. He then realized that he did in fact raise a daughter that did the heinous deed thing and she is not stopping until she destroys the entire family.IMO

BBM.

You know I really think that's where ICA gets her rocks off. She really does revel in destroying her entire family. She clearly enjoys it. She clearly cried long and hard when she saw LA fall apart but had nothing for either of her parents. I think she just cried because she realizes that LA is the only member of her family that is truly under her spell still, and is therefore still useful to her.

 

[Bullwinkle]

This was an incredible day on many levels. As I sit here still trying to digest what we were fed by the defense in their supposed day of glory, I can do no better than to mimic the voice of Brando in Apocalypse Now and feebly croak, "The horror".

 

[mrsc72]

Where was my umbrella??


:cry::cry:

 

[Eidetic]

While George testified

 

[QuietStorm]

Now wouldn't that be something if she throws a curve ball to her DT. They are expecting her to say no and to the judge she says she wants to testify.

I was watching KC as the grief doctor walked out. The doctor said something to someone as she was passing the DT but I don't know to whom she was speaking. Anyone?

The look on KC's face was almost "dang, maybe I did do it." Perhaps she will testify and we will hear another version of what happened to Caylee. Well, that's probably magical thinking.

 

[SeaNymph]

I read her lips at that point. I believe she said "It doesn't", meaning a mother's bond doesn't end with death.

I saw that and just immediately thought "She doesnt get it."

She doesnt get the story that had JUST been told was so completely at odds with ANYTHING she did - completely opposite, and somehow she thinks ANYONE would see her as a grieving mother...Oh my God.

A mother out sitting in the rain with a blanket and umbrella over the grave of her dead child, to protect him in HER OWN WAY, the only way she can now but still HAS to because it is so ingrained in her being, afraid his little soul may still need her, while Casey threw Caylee out to be rained on and heaven knows what else for 6 months and NEVER LOOKED BACK.

She is astounding.

I read my first 'crime novel' at 10, Helter Skelter (I know, heavy, snuck it from my dad's library; anywhooo) and I have NEVER seen anything like ICA.

 

[ahoyhoy]

ICA neds to wear a dress like a muu muu ...I'm tired of seeing her adjusting her blouse and pants..:maddening:

I've had quite a few friends with figures like ICA's---short w/ big . I have heard hours about them complaining that THEY 'can't wear' tuxedo ruffles or embellished shirt fronts because those kinds of shirts make everyone stare at their too much.

Anybody see where I'm going, in a backwards sorta way? ICA knows what she's doing. IMO.

 

[Soulmagent]

With the DT wrapping up tomorrow, and HHBP telling the state that they should be prepared to begin rebuttal tomorrow afternoon, it would appear that the DT may only have one or two witnesses left.

We know by reports that River Cruz was waiting outside in the hall this afternoon, so she is one witness. Are there any more left to testify? I wonder if KC will testify and be the last witness?

As far as rebuttal goes, it's been stated that two of Cindy's former co-workers have been subpoenaed to testify. Bill Shaeffer referenced the HIPPA laws that all medical records be kept for 7 years, so there may be records of Cindy being at work when the computer searches were made.

I also expect to see someone testify regarding phone records for George and Cindy that might show that they weren't home during those computer searches.

I also think Dr. Garavaglia will be called to testify to refute Dr. Spitz's allegation that her autopsy was shoddy.

Can anyone think of other possible rebuttal witnesses?

At this point in the defence case do they even need a rebuttle?

The only issue in the defence that mattered was RK.

 

[annmarie62]

If anybody here tweets with the night time talking heads, someone say something about the boy in the rain, and the contrast of poor Caylee thrown out in the rain and dark. I am trying to swallow my wine (I really need it today) and I can't. That was so sad and so powerful if anyone really stops to think about it. I hope LDB uses it in closing too. That mother was grieving, ICA ... I just can't find the words.

I agree- when my Mom died, she was cremated, and it took a month or so to arrange the burial of her ashes/buy a plot, etc. I had her ashes with me, in a box, and some nights I slept with them on the bed next to me. To be "near" her, as it were. For the longest time after the burial I would drive out to her grave, lay on it, and just SOB... sometimes I played music, sometimes I would just talk to her... the pain was so raw that it physically HURT. That pain didn't ease for years. Now, if one of my two boys died, God help me, I think I would have to be hospitalized to prevent suicide. I TOTALLY understand the concept of GA wanting to die "to be with Caylee"- not condoning suicide, but it's really easy for me to imagine how he came to that lowest of points.

 

[Leila]

I think the state will call GA back to the stand. If I were the SA I wouldn't waste my time on CA or LA. But if HHJP allows the suicide note in JA will for sure bring GA back up on stand and finally put to bed all of JB's mean insinuations that he was the one behind Caylee's demise.

Yes! I agree that the state will include George in their rebuttal if the suicide letter is allowed in.

 

[Baznme]

ICA neds to wear a dress like a muu muu ...I'm tired of seeing her adjusting her blouse and pants..:maddening:

Soon enough she will have a perpetual supply of inmate frocks to wear, every day, always the same color, always the same style, always the same fit, so that should take care of that problem.

 

[LyndyLoo]

With the DT wrapping up tomorrow, and HHBP telling the state that they should be prepared to begin rebuttal tomorrow afternoon, it would appear that the DT may only have one or two witnesses left.

We know by reports that River Cruz was waiting outside in the hall this afternoon, so she is one witness. Are there any more left to testify? I wonder if KC will testify and be the last witness?
As far as rebuttal goes, it's been stated that two of Cindy's former co-workers have been subpoenaed to testify. Bill Shaeffer referenced the HIPPA laws that all medical records be kept for 7 years, so there may be records of Cindy being at work when the computer searches were made.

I also expect to see someone testify regarding phone records for George and Cindy that might show that they weren't home during those computer searches.

I also think Dr. Garavaglia will be called to testify to refute Dr. Spitz's allegation that her autopsy was shoddy.

Can anyone think of other possible rebuttal witnesses?

BBM~~ I dont know if anyone heard this or not..But apparantly RC aka Ms Holloway was interviewed and according to JVM she said she was moved by GA's testimony and having watched KC's reactions..... she is NOW convinced that kC did this!!..

I realize this is hearsay since I dont have a link..sorry, but given that..I rather doubt DT will put her on the stand..IF they do..it would be yet another DT witness who becomes a SA Witness!!

JMOO