2011.08.05 Hearing on Casey's probation

[LambChop]

And...not only that...but what about the "thousands" that CM declared she received from supporters right after the NG verdict?

Obviously that money went for keeping KC in frappes. jmo

 

[Italy]

One would think Baez and his merry band (Mason, etc) would want her to serve her probation in Florida. It is to be expected that she would reoffend and they can pick up where they left off -- receive hundreds of thousands from the Florida taxpayers for their defense of her.

 

[strawberry]

If she gets to serve probation out of state would her address still be public record?

 

[LambChop]

One would think Baez and his merry band (Mason, etc) would want her to serve her probation in Florida. It is to be expected that she would reoffend and they can pick up where they left off -- receive hundreds of thousands from the Florida taxpayers for their defense of her.

She can't be indigent and pay a private attorney. She could keep JB in the criminal case because he had already been paid by her. The State only paid her expenses, experts, etc. but no attorney fees. If she still has no money and reoffends it will be a public defender, unless JB wants to defend her for free, which is unlikely to happen. jmo

 

[JBean]

Hmm - Can FKC be declared an indigent by the State of Florida if she is not a resident of the State of Florida? How does that make sense?

I would think indigence would be based on income not residency.

 

[JSV]

The letter states she is no longer under the supervision of the DOC, yet she was in jail :waitasec: The entire situation makes no sense.
Are the FL taxpayers going to hold Ms. Finnigan's feet to the fire for making such faulty decisions? It all comes back to her.

I totally agree .

In the termination of supervision letter it says CFCA is no longer under the supervision of The Dept. of Corrections.

Excuse me but wasen't CFCA under the supervision of the Orange Counti Jail .

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[logicalgirl]

I would think indigence would be based on income not residency.

Well that's very nice of the State of Florida JBean, but not logical at all. Surely the state in which she is a resident would be the one to decide if she is indigent. She could be earning an income in another state, but have earned nothing in Florida and that's what makes her indigent in Florida? Is that what you are saying?:waitasec: Or have offshore accounts but no earnings in Florida? And if she isn't a resident of Florida, how would Florida know she is indigent or not. What - by asking her manager - Baez?

Just not logical at all, and I suggest the taxpayers of Florida may agree with me.

 

[logicalgirl]

I totally agree .

In the termination of supervision letter it says CFCA is no longer under the supervision of The Dept. of Corrections.

Excuse me but wasen't CFCA under the supervision of the Orange Counti Jail .

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Geez, maybe the OCJ isn't under the supervision of the DOC? Cause they sure aren't talking to one another in any manner that I can see....

 

[JSV]

The way I see that, that's pretty much what they did! I'm not at all sure that her sentence for what she WAS convicted of (lying) was calculated correctly or that she has served all of the time she should have served for that (in other words, was time served incorrectly counted double, for both the check charges and the lying charges?). In addition, she'd still at least be under supervision with probation if the probation dept had done their job and asked for clarification instead of just going with the easiest route. Seems to me they just thought, well, we've had other inmates serve probation in jail, and this girl is probably going to get a long sentence, anyway, eh, whatever.

I'm almost positive JP will come up with some way to either not make FCA do any probation at all or make it a phone-in, in-name-only probation. If he actually orders her to serve it as JS intended, I will come back here and eat my hat!

What the hell is wrong with people in this case . The Dept. of Corrections ... The Jury ... not to mention the sleazy dt .

 

[JBean]

DOC would be the authority over the prisons, probation and parole. I don't think they would be in a supervisory capacity over the county jails; at least not when they are housed pending trial.
IIRC, KC could only be found in the DOC database when she was on probation,the rest of the time she would be found on the jail locator.

I'll do some research, but I would assume this would be the case in FL.

 

[JSV]

JS' exact words were "time served, 412 days." As far as I know, he never said anything beyond that. IMO, though IANAL, that 412 days should be subtracted from any credit for time served that she was given for the lying charges. I'm under the impression that it was also counted for the lying charges, in addition to time off for good behavior. I'm a little fuzzy on that, maybe I am wrong. I would like to see some accounting of just what credit she was given for what. She was supposed to have 4 years for the lying and then a percentage off for good behavior and time served. I'm just wondering if they gave her the 412 days again for the lying.

Also the 412 days was for the check fraud trial .The murder trial was a seperate trial from the ck fraud trial . Seems like the 2 trials are being put together for the days served in jail .One has nothing to do with the other . I don't think I am making sense . I know what I am trying to get at . Ck fraud sentence shouldn't have anything to do with the lying sentence .

 

[JBean]

DOC would be the authority over the prisons, probation and parole. I don't think they would be in a supervisory capacity over the county jails; at least not when they are housed pending trial.
IIRC, KC could only be found in the DOC database when she was on probation,the rest of the time she would be found on the jail locator.

I'll do some research, but I would assume this would be the case in FL.

Clarifiy what I mean. I think if she is in jail, pending trial as she was on 1-25-11, that she would be under the watch of the County Jail not the DOC. I would think the DOC monitors those serving their sentence.
But I will do some research in case this is inaccurate.

 

[MissJames]

Well that's very nice of the State of Florida JBean, but not logical at all. Surely the state in which she is a resident would be the one to decide if she is indigent. She could be earning an income in another state, but have earned nothing in Florida and that's what makes her indigent in Florida? Is that what you are saying?:waitasec: Or have offshore accounts but no earnings in Florida? And if she isn't a resident of Florida, how would Florida know she is indigent or not. What - by asking her manager - Baez?

Just not logical at all, and I suggest the taxpayers of Florida may agree with me.

I agree.Why would the FL taxpayers continue to provide the funds to defend a non-resident? That makes no sense to me ,either. The people of FL need to speak up.

 

[MissJames]

If she gets to serve probation out of state would her address still be public record?

Should the judge decide to seal that bit of info ,in order to protect her,I will be royally pizzed.The public needs to know where she is so they can be protected from HER :maddening: When she gets a job (which should be a requirement of her probation) whoever hires her has a right to know she is a felon.

 

[LambChop]

Also the 412 days was for the check fraud trial .The murder trial was a seperate trial from the ck fraud trial . Seems like the 2 trials are being put together for the days served in jail .One has nothing to do with the other . I don't think I am making sense . I know what I am trying to get at . Ck fraud sentence shouldn't have anything to do with the lying sentence .

Right the check fraud and the lying charges are two separate and distinct crimes. Lying charges were along with murder charges and connected. She lied to LE about the whereabouts of her daughter who was dead. The checks were written during the 31 days and had nothing to do with her daughter's death. jmo

 

[strawberry]

Should the judge decide to seal that bit of info ,in order to protect her,I will be royally pizzed.The public needs to know where she is so they can be protected from HER :maddening: When she gets a job (which should be a requirement of her probation) whoever hires her has a right to know she is a felon.

I agree.

 

[MissJames]

Well, if nothing else comes of this,at least FL residents are getting to see how well their criminal justice system works (not).

 

[JSV]

If she served her time for check fraud, was let out, and then got sentenced for lying, then I presume they would not be calculating her time to serve for lying from the beginning of her serving time for check fraud.
So I wish state of Fl figured out once and for all what is it she has to serve for lying and I fail to see why they appear to be including her check fraud time as served time for the lying to police?

It is just not right to subtract her sentence on the Ck Fraud trial from the lying sentence from the murder trial . two totally seperate trials . :furious:

 

[JBean]

It is just not right to subtract her sentence on the Ck Fraud trial from the lying sentence from the murder trial . two totally seperate trials . :furious:

But I thought this was a break that Perry gave her a sentencing? I remember at sentencing the insession group discussing this;saying even though he gave her the max consecutive sentences for the lying, he could have made it wore by not allowing the time served for the previous conviction. IOW< isn't this up to the court's discretion?

 

[RR0004]

But I thought this was a break that Perry gave her a sentencing? I remember at sentencing the insession group discussing this;saying even though he gave her the max consecutive sentences for the lying, he could have made it wore by not allowing the time served for the previous conviction. IOW< isn't this up to the court's discretion?

I think if that's the case...and he was aware...he needs come out and be clear about it. I personally don't think it's in keeping with the original intent of JS's order, though.