2015.06.28 Timestamp Indicated per Probable Cause Doc

[Dmacky]

BBM. Or even a credit card receipt showing TS paid for parking at 11:19PM while exiting the lot.

On the other hand, my better judgment tells me the 11:19PM timestamp is more likely the time shown on evidence connected to CWW. Only because the time was related to probable cause underlying the charge that CWW murdered TS. I can't wrap my head around timestamped evidence coming from TS (receipts, her phone records) that LE would rely on or otherwise base probable cause to arrest CWW for her murder, unless there was a call between TS and CWW or the two were in the same frame of surveillance video at 11:19PM.

I'm HOPING the timestamped evidence is derived from very solid data tying CWW to the murder. Like traffic cameras, or a signal showing CWW or JR's cellphone or rental vehicle within walking distance to Jarvis at 11:19PM.

JMO, if the plane landed at 11:00 and TS was expected home at the earliest by 11:30, 11:19PM just looks like a good time, from a killer's perspective, to already be in the house or just arriving. And this just occurred to me, MS wouldn't even need to tell CWW that TS landed at 11- CWW could simply keep track of arrivals from CT/NY. Maybe CWW checked the arrivals, saw TS's plane landed right before 11PM and it took them exactly 19 minutes to get from point A (where they were staying) to point B (Jarvis).

Great post Creepingskills! I keep wanting to shorten your screen name when I reply to you, but I just can't for the life of me refer to you as creep :giggle: Maybe I'll just use CS.
BBM ~ I just posted the same thing.

 

[creepingskills]

There could be a timestamp! Maybe she left the receipt in the van!

I was thinking this was possible, too. And still very possible!

But, I don't know how evidence showing that TS paid for parking (alive) at 11:19 supports probable cause to arrest CWW for her murder. I guess the timestamp could be the last known time, evidence, showing TS alive, but I'm hoping LSCO has more than that. And if there are tolls on the highway, or any cameras at all, that would be the last known time she was alive vs. the parking receipt.

Last thought, even if TS somehow avoided tolls and all traffic/security cameras, her cell phone would have been pinging cell towers during her commute home unless it was off. I'm sure LE knows roughly the time she arrived home (and this would be the closest time to time of death, logically)...and as everyone has pointed out, 11:19 would have been too fast. JMO, TS may have arrived home closer to midnight and LCSO has evidence showing someone else was in that house at 11:19PM. Perhaps CWW turned on or 'woke' a computer while he waited.

 

[creepingskills]

Great post Creepingskills! I keep wanting to shorten your screen name when I reply to you, but I just can't for the life of me refer to you as creep :giggle: Maybe I'll just use CS.
BBM ~ I just posted the same thing.

:hilarious: I definitely picked a creepy name, WS outsiders would probably be alarmed. Too funny, I was hoping that my username wouldn't be mentioned with my question during the SMS interview. Next question from CREEPINGSKILLS:facepalm:

 

[Eileen730]

Here it is
GRACE:We also traveled to the airport it is believed that she entered into. And what did we learn about the airport, Matt Zarrell?

ZARRELL: ... she had used short-term parking. She would have had to go through a toll booth that had a person in there, who would have seen her, and possibly a surveillance camera that also would have seen her. And if someone was in the car with her, maybe they spotted that person as well.

GRACE: You know, I took a long, hard look at what we learned about the airport. If she had parked in short-term, there would have been a camera at the toll for her to exit. In long-term parking, however, are there videocameras, Matt?

ZARRELL: There may be at the booth, but it doesn`t seem to be a manned booth. You would insert a card, and then the gate would open up. There might be a camera there, but from what we can tell, we can`t be sure.

http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1507/09/ng.01.html

Short term and long term use the same pay booths some are manned some u insert the ticket and pay using Credit or debit card

 

[creepingskills]

I personally doubt she brought home any luggage, except maybe a carry on with her own personal "get ready for work things" necessities e.g. makeup, hair products etc.
The reason being is she had such a long day in Connecticut, a late flight home and an early morning work schedule. I would think MS would have dealt with all of that beings he wasn't on a tight schedule.

** Also, there is no doubt in my mind that mr. computer genius CWW knew exactly was on the Sievers itinerary for that trip. He KNEW TS would be traveling home alone and what time as well. With or without MS giving him information.

BBM. Totally agree, TS was probably eager to get home and go to sleep. Late flight for a Sunday night. Assuming she departed NY at 830PMish, did she eat dinner with MS and the girls before the flight?

 

[Eileen730]

May be possible. I know that hit men sometimes take a pic of the victim as proof of death (usually to ensure payment) but in this case, I'm not sure that picture proof would be required since TS's body would surely be discovered deceased the next day. JMO.

Well LE seems to a definite TIME now they have to have something...

 

[creepingskills]

Well LE seems to a definite TIME now they have to have something...

Agreed, I'm now leaning toward CWW doing something in the house that left a timestamp of 11:19PM and at 11:19PM, LE knew exactly where TS was (phone/cam records) and she wasn't in the house yet.

If the timestamp wasn't related to the alarm, I wonder what else, what other household item would CWW be tempted to disturb that also keeps timestamps? Computers? Sure, LE did remove a desktop computer. I'm thinking its something that computer genius CWW didn't THINK would leave a timestamp.

 

[Daisy47]

They surely wouldn't be that stupid!

Stupid yes, but not at all uncommon for murderers to do. Apparently some get a sick thrill from viewing... ewww I feel nauseated.

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[Dmacky]

:hilarious: I definitely picked a creepy name, WS outsiders would probably be alarmed. Too funny, I was hoping that my username wouldn't be mentioned with my question during the SMS interview. Next question from CREEPINGSKILLS:facepalm:

That actually crossed my mind as well while beach was explaining it to us. IMO ~ Beach did US ALL a big favor by not saying that :lol:

great name though....
It's hard to pick a username. I wanted to use "Macky" for my furbaby, but it was already taken. In fact everything I tried was already taken..I bet you didn't have that problem though :wink: I was too dumb to think outside of the box.

 

[Dmacky]

Agreed, I'm now leaning toward CWW doing something in the house that left a timestamp of 11:19PM and at 11:19PM, LE knew exactly where TS was (phone/cam records) and she wasn't in the house yet.

If the timestamp wasn't related to the alarm, I wonder what else, what other household item would CWW be tempted to disturb that also keeps timestamps? Computers? Sure, LE did remove a desktop computer. I'm thinking its something that computer genius CWW didn't THINK would leave a timestamp.

good thinking!

 

[Dmacky]

Agreed, I'm now leaning toward CWW doing something in the house that left a timestamp of 11:19PM and at 11:19PM, LE knew exactly where TS was (phone/cam records) and she wasn't in the house yet.

If the timestamp wasn't related to the alarm, I wonder what else, what other household item would CWW be tempted to disturb that also keeps timestamps? Computers? Sure, LE did remove a desktop computer. I'm thinking its something that computer genius CWW didn't THINK would leave a timestamp.

Don't laugh, but would LE be able to trace what time a landline phone was taken off the hook? Was he already staging inside to make it look as if TS tried to call for help?
Did they CUT the phone line?

 

[flgrl017]

Her family member that posts here said she didn't check a bag. Didn't say anything about a carry in but she was a woman so I imagine she had one.

I personally doubt she brought home any luggage, except maybe a carry on with her own personal "get ready for work things" necessities e.g. makeup, hair products etc.
The reason being is she had such a long day in Connecticut, a late flight home and an early morning work schedule. I would think MS would have dealt with all of that beings he wasn't on a tight schedule.

** Also, there is no doubt in my mind that mr. computer genius CWW knew exactly was on the Sievers itinerary for that trip. He KNEW TS would be traveling home alone and what time as well. With or without MS giving him information.

 

[Eileen730]

Agreed, I'm now leaning toward CWW doing something in the house that left a timestamp of 11:19PM and at 11:19PM, LE knew exactly where TS was (phone/cam records) and she wasn't in the house yet.

If the timestamp wasn't related to the alarm, I wonder what else, what other household item would CWW be tempted to disturb that also keeps timestamps? Computers? Sure, LE did remove a desktop computer. I'm thinking its something that computer genius CWW didn't THINK would leave a timestamp.

I wonder if they turned off the electricity?

 

[IM4TRUTH]

I'm not so sure about TS just having carry on luggage. How long had they been up there? Also Mark would have his own luggage as well as the girls.

 

[No it's not]

Not sure if this has been posted yet..

'The state attorney's office has instructed the Lee County Sheriff's Office not to speak about the case or release any additional information.'

That's exactly how my day went today. No info available, nada. Not at the courthouse either. I kind of expected that after the phone call to the Sheriff's office the other day.

http://www.nbc-2.com/story/30282888/owner-demands-rent-for-sievers-office-decision-coming-on-wright-documents#.ViGRuJWFPDs

 

[IM4TRUTH]

Not sure if this has been posted yet:

http://www.nbc-2.com/story/30282888...ision-coming-on-wright-documents#.ViGRuJWFPDs

Someone posted it from ABC-7. This is the part I hate: :The state attorney's office has instructed the Lee County Sheriff's Office not to speak about the case or release any additional information. "

 

[Riversinthedesert]

Not sure if this has been posted yet:

http://www.nbc-2.com/story/30282888...ision-coming-on-wright-documents#.ViGRuJWFPDs

Thanks Nin...saw this, I think on the thread about the practice. Interesting.

 

[ATasteOfHoney]

I am stuck on the arrest docs listing 11:19 as time of crime and (IIRC) MS stating that he spoke to TS at 11:30-what! Since it is easy to look at your call history, I would think that if he has made this statement in MSM, it was accurate. Is there anyone here that can find a link to the article?

Could the time difference be skewed due to Eastern time (Florida) versus Central time (Missouri)?

 

[No it's not]

Thank you guys. However, I took the chance to thank the LCSO with some yummy donuts today. ;--)
LCSO rocks!!

-Nin :rockon:

 

[irishchook]

Thank you guys. However, I took the chance to thank the LCSO with some yummy donuts today. ;--)
LCSO rocks!!

-Nin :rockon:

You're definitely a good egg. I see how much you care about this case, and it shows.