2015.10.20 Elizabeth Parker - Defense Attorney representing CWW

[creepingskills]

Wondered the same. Haven't sleuthed the firm's attorneys regarding who is admitted in which states. Or maybe one of them was admitted simply Pro Hac Vice on that particular MO case. Either way, interesting. :thinking:

On second thought, I wonder if the article is worded poorly and the firm represented someone from MO in FL.

 

[creepingskills]

The ABA rules wouldn't apply (to anyone--they're just suggestions), but the Florida Rules of Professional Conduct (which would apply) prohibit even negotiating such an agreement until the representation ends.

RULE 4-1.8 CONFLICT OF INTEREST; PROHIBITED AND OTHER
TRANSACTIONS

...

(d) Acquiring Literary or Media Rights. Prior to the conclusion of representation of a
client, a lawyer shall not make or negotiate an agreement giving the lawyer literary or media
rights to a portrayal or account based in substantial part on information relating to the
representation.

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On the other hand, she might be interested in the media exposure alone.

BBM. Maybe because I was so nervous about failing the MPRE, I just assumed all those MPRC rules applied to lawyers and most states adopted or modeled their own after the model rules.

 

[Arachne 1]

They are taught in law school to LIE. They lie to themselves, the court, everyone because they are entitled to an appropriate defense. I have several friends who dropped out of law school or quit the profession because they could NOT live with themselves due to what was required of them to be effective counsel.

Not to worry, my dear friend. In the end, they will face the Ultimate Judge. And they will pay, accordingly...in ways we can't even imagine.

I am sorry for your loss.

 

[Bobbywoo]

I think more and more JR was brought into this to be the fall guy should something go wrong. Imagine your partner in crime getting a high powered attorney and you got a public defender. I have thoughts where CWW money may be coming from. I wonder how much of the money was taken out before it got changed? jmo.

If I was JR I would be peeing my pants right about now!

 

[Gemini 11]

I just learned today that MS signed away his shares in the Medical building Monday and will soon close the office. Wonder if he receives money for those shares, and if so, what he plans to do with it? Would he dare put up the retainer for his" Bro"? Did he do it because he might be the next to be arrested?... or Maybe he'll need that for his own attorney? Just thinking out loud.

 

[Wyle_E_Coyote]

I just learned today that MS signed away his shares in the Medical building Monday and will soon close the office. Wonder if he receives money for those shares, and if so, what he plans to do with it? Would he dare put up the retainer for his" Bro"? Did he do it because he might be the next to be arrested?... or Maybe he'll need that for his own attorney? Just thinking out loud.

I suspect if he was due back any money for the shares, it would have been withheld and applied to unpaid rent.

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[DexterMorgan]

A thought I just had. Do you think CWW hired EP hoping she could get a good plea deal for him? If that's the case he may not even be worrying about the full cost of hiring her for a trial at this point.

Great point. Some defense lawyers are not there to prove not guilty. Some are there to minimize time having to be served.

So they act like the case will proceed on. Then the state evaluates cost and other victim relative factors. Such as do the kids really need to know the full scope that they will find out if this goes to trial.

So at some point. The prosecution may decide to agree with a plea deal.

Also at that point. The defense lawyer still has bragging rights of saving their clients lives or atleast saving them from getting life without parole.

Agree.

 

[Satchie]

Would he dare put up the retainer for his" Bro"?

I think LE are monitoring his every move and it would be considered additional evidence against MS if he paid for the defense of the man accused of killing his wife!

 

[Skinner]

I learned in law school that pleading "not guilty" is not a moral statement, but a legal term. What it means to the law profession is that as a defendant you are telling the prosecution that the burden is on them to prove what they set out to prove. It does not "mean", that you aren't guilty, it's just that you are going to make them work at trying to prove you are.

 

[Skinner]

The ABA rules wouldn't apply (to anyone--they're just suggestions), but the Florida Rules of Professional Conduct (which would apply) prohibit even negotiating such an agreement until the representation ends.

RULE 4-1.8 CONFLICT OF INTEREST; PROHIBITED AND OTHER
TRANSACTIONS

What everybody knows, regardless of these laws that the ABA has, is that lawyers lie all the time and cover for one another.

The heinous crimes of the Missouri Supreme Court and not prosecuting criminal lawyers according to their own by-laws, I could show you proof and tell stories that make you weep.

The facts, evidence, of fraud, lying under oath, falsified notary publics, showing all the evidence on video and court records to the courts, the appellate courts, and the supreme court, did not achieve anything close to justice. Missouri's own prosecuting attorney did nothing, as did the judges, who in one case, it turns out should have excused himself from the court since it was his own nephew that was being charged.

The crimes never end in the legal profession.

 

[Satchie]

I'm from Canada, we don't seem to have the same hostility towards defense lawyers.

I think it's important for the health of the criminal justice system that everyone charged has a good defense lawyer who will do their best to get the person off. Then, when the person is still convicted, you know there's no doubt they committed the crime and deserve to be punished.

 

[creepingskills]

I'm from Canada, we don't seem to have the same hostility towards defense lawyers.

I think it's important for the health of the criminal justice system that everyone charged has a good defense lawyer who will do their best to get the person off. Then, when the person is still convicted, you know there's no doubt they committed the crime and deserve to be punished.

JMO, the hostility against lawyers is heightened in Missouri and may be justified. I strongly encourage any one wondering whether lawyers lie to the court, for each other, for clients and get away with it, to google the Board of Bar Oversees in their state and read a few of the recent disciplinary decisions.

Here is Massachusetts:
http://www.mass.gov/obcbbo/decisions.htm

 

[irishchook]

I'm from Canada, we don't seem to have the same hostility towards defense lawyers.

I think it's important for the health of the criminal justice system that everyone charged has a good defense lawyer who will do their best to get the person off. Then, when the person is still convicted, you know there's no doubt they committed the crime and deserve to be punished.

That's great for Canada. Here in the U.S., unfortunately we have to see everyone as being 'involved', including LE and attorneys.
Corruption happens quite frequently here, so I'm not sure if the same goes for Canadian citizens.

 

[Maxine2U]

I'm from Canada, we don't seem to have the same hostility towards defense lawyers.

I think it's important for the health of the criminal justice system that everyone charged has a good defense lawyer who will do their best to get the person off. Then, when the person is still convicted, you know there's no doubt they committed the crime and deserve to be punished.

Yeah it's supposed to work that way here too...

 

[KateB]

Four in Your Corner talks to Sievers' murder suspect's attorney
11:09 PM, Oct 22, 2015
http://www.fox4now.com/news/four-in-your-corner-talks-to-sievers-murder-suspects-attorney

Kaplan said he's been in contact with Wright since the extradition proceedings started. He said said he hadn't heard of this case before his firm took it on.

Kaplan is a former FBI agent, and said the firm does their own investigations from start to finish.
"We kind of take on the approach as if we were investigating the case. As if we were looking into whether or not there was a crime committed or not, or whether or not the person who's accused of the crime is actually the person who's responsible.
...
Just a day before Dr. Sievers' murder, Sheriff Scott says Wright was seen on surveillance at a Fort Myers Walmart with Rodgers. "Why was Mr. Wright in Florida the day before Dr. Sievers' murder?" Four in Your Corner's Lisa Greenberg asked Kaplan. "The only thing I can say with respect to that is I don't have anything at this point that indicates whether he was in the state of Florida or not," Kaplan answered.

 

[concernedmother]

Sheriff Scott says Wright was seen on surveillance at a Fort Myers Walmart with Rodgers.

So this is what lead them to suspect CWW from the get go. And all they had to do was look on FB and see him and MS were bff.

 

[FightTheOstrich]

Great point. Some defense lawyers are not there to prove not guilty. Some are there to minimize time having to be served.

So they act like the case will proceed on. Then the state evaluates cost and other victim relative factors. Such as do the kids really need to know the full scope that they will find out if this goes to trial.

So at some point. The prosecution may decide to agree with a plea deal.

Also at that point. The defense lawyer still has bragging rights of saving their clients lives or atleast saving them from getting life without parole.

Agree.

Exactly, very few cases actually make it to trial.
http://www.uscourts.gov/about-federal-courts/types-cases/criminal-cases
http://www.thecrimereport.org/viewpoints/2014-01-how-plea-bargains-are-making-jury-trials-obsolete

 

[Wyle_E_Coyote]

Kaplan is a former FBI agent, and said the firm does their own investigations from start to finish.
"We kind of take on the approach as if we were investigating the case. As if we were looking into whether or not there was a crime committed or not, or whether or not the person who's accused of the crime is actually the person who's responsible.
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RSBM
Would sure love to be a fly on the wall when the attorney starts investigating all the MO connections.

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[Bobbywoo]

Sheriff Scott says Wright was seen on surveillance at a Fort Myers Walmart with Rodgers.

So this is what lead them to suspect CWW from the get go. And all they had to do was look on FB and see him and MS were bff.

I wonder what the quality of the Walmart tape is? As little info that SMS has put out they made sure that tidbit got out to the public. Bluffing??? I'm not doubting the recording exists I'm simply wondering the positioning of LE vs CWW. Remember CWW's prior attorney claims CWW was never in FL. Hopefully the quality of the recording is very clear or they have other evidence connecting CWW at the time of the murder.

 

[human]

CWW will want to go to trial as he thinks he can get off. That is how psychopaths think.

If he is on Walmart surveillance, it will be from multiple cameras.

If people are afraid of him, he will have several people say he was in MO.