2015.12.02 Discovery Documents - Batch 1

[debbiegarcia36]

What baffles me about these idiots is why even use an"other" phone if you are going to have a trail of evidence about this "other" phone referenced in all of your texts. What's the point?

Well said BrownRice!

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[Satchie]

I think the camera borrowed along with the GPS was likely a dashboard camera

 

[DeDee]

MS has nerves of steel. How he could hire his buddy to murder his wife and interview with investigators during which he reveals he and his wife had been swingers is beyond rational behavior. The other two goons, Rodgers and Wright, freaked out when they knew LEO was on their trail. MS never showed any tension. If anything he displayed anger and frustration in the videos we've seen.

There are neighborhoods where I live that are well-known for participating in swinging. The two neighborhoods are considered as the rich and famous in the area and are appx 7 miles apart. To announce yourself as swingers, you purchase a concrete pineapple, a symbol of hospitality, and place it near your front door. When you arrive at the house that is hosting the night's swingers' party, place your keys in a large glass bowl. When you are ready to swing, then you simply take the keys belonging to the person you wish to switch with.

"Any guest who was invited to a party where a whole pineapple was displayed, knew that no expense was spared in guaranteeing the guests’ enjoyment. It was this that made the crowned fruit the high symbol of social events and became the meaning of welcome, friendship, and hospitality."
http://chefsblade.monster.com/news/articles/884-the-story-of-the-pineapple-a-symbol-of-hospitality

MS possesses a heart as cold as the bars he'll soon be behind. :jail: How he planned this crime, so far in advance, without Dr. Teresa Sievers having a clue that her life was in danger is frightening in itself.

When MS turned over his phone for LEO downloading, they discovered a wealth of information.

Discovery docs pg 4-5 https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B717FUtKwdU8NmpNd2dEbTFWRWM&usp=sharing

 

[U2forever]

MS has nerves of steel. How he could hire his buddy to murder his wife and interview with investigators during which he reveals he and his wife had been swingers is beyond rational behavior. The other two goons, Rodgers and Wright, freaked out when they knew LEO was on their trail. MS never showed any tension. If anything he displayed anger and frustration in the videos we've seen.

There are neighborhoods where I live that are well-known for participating in swinging. The two neighborhoods are considered as the rich and famous in the area and are appx 7 miles apart. To announce yourself as swingers, you purchase a concrete pineapple, a symbol of hospitality, and place it near your front door. When you arrive at the house that is hosting the night's swingers' party, place your keys in a large glass bowl. When you are ready to swing, then you simply take the keys belonging to the person you wish to switch with.

"Any guest who was invited to a party where a whole pineapple was displayed, knew that no expense was spared in guaranteeing the guests’ enjoyment. It was this that made the crowned fruit the high symbol of social events and became the meaning of welcome, friendship, and hospitality."
http://chefsblade.monster.com/news/articles/884-the-story-of-the-pineapple-a-symbol-of-hospitality

MS possesses a heart as cold as the bars he'll soon be behind. :jail: How he planned this crime, so far in advance, without Dr. Teresa Sievers having a clue that her life was in danger is frightening in itself.

When MS turned over his phone for LEO downloading, they discovered a wealth of information.

Discovery docs pg 4-5 https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B717FUtKwdU8NmpNd2dEbTFWRWM&usp=sharing

BBM:
Spits out pineapple. :shame: LOL

Thanks for the rather salacious info DeDee. I knew about the swingers and bowl of keychains, not from experience mind you.
Pineapple just lost it's innocence. I knew pineapple was welcome, just not come on in and get it welcome.

My ex husband is/was a swinger, I just didn't know it.
I found out after he was sent to the state pokey for homicide. Wish he was still there. :banghead:

I beLIEve MS and the gang are a bunch of low life, no good Psychopaths, hence the 'nerves of steel'.
Bet he doesn't have underoos of steel though.

Great post DeDee!!

 

[Martha Morris]

Re the 'concrete pineapples' .... I read on a forum here that apparently a wicker heart on or near the front door is code for 'swingers reside here' on this side of the pond. :thinking:

Who knew? I have not one, but two, wicker hearts hanging in my front porch.

Any swingers knocking at my front door will be sorely disappointed however. Not only am I happily single, the only thing swinging in this house is the pendulum on the grandfather clock in the hall.

My idea of excitement is a cup of cocoa, a good book and an early night! :bedtime:

 

[AZlawyer]

BBM:
Spits out pineapple. :shame: LOL

Thanks for the rather salacious info DeDee. I knew about the swingers and bowl of keychains, not from experience mind you.
Pineapple just lost it's innocence. I knew pineapple was welcome, just not come on in and get it welcome.

My ex husband is/was a swinger, I just didn't know it.
I found out after he was sent to the state pokey for homicide. Wish he was still there. :banghead:

I beLIEve MS and the gang are a bunch of low life, no good Psychopaths, hence the 'nerves of steel'.
Bet he doesn't have underoos of steel though.

Great post DeDee!!

When my husband and I moved to our current neighborhood, we quickly figured out that about 4 couples were swingers and were subtly trying to see if we were "game" haha.

And now back to our regularly scheduled thread....

 

[beach]

When my husband and I moved to our current neighborhood, we quickly figured out that about 4 couples were swingers and were subtly trying to see if we were "game" haha.

And now back to our regularly scheduled thread....

:laughcry:

 

[flgrl017]

Maybe when he went for the funeral? It is strange that he had her mail.

Can anyone shed some light for me on the envelope found in CWW's possession that was "addressed" to TS and "dated" July 1st? Do they mean it was a piece of USPS mail that had her name and address on it and was postmarked July 1st? Or was just her name and a date handwritten on an envelope?

July 1st was a couple days after the murder - so if it was postmarked he must have somehow obtained it once he was back home in MO, right?

But how/when/where/why and from whom did he obtain it? And what, if anything, was originally contained in the envelope? Why would he have an envelope addressed to her with a date after her death?

I won't even bother to ask why he decided to hang on to it rather than discard it!

Apologies if this has already been discussed elsewhere or at length - just point me in the right direction. Thanks in advance! ��

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[msboo]

:laughcry:

Oh, the humanity!

Beach, not sure what happened to you 'swinger' quote---had trouble posting.

 

[human]

Facetime is an Apple product. Doubt he sent anything but a cheap throwaway phone that takes a prepaid card.

 

[Teche]

yes he looks a little slimmer in this picture. However, he looks rather fluffy in the pic of his court appearance via phone.

 

[lstiff]

I'm wondering "what might have been" if the neighbor's outside surveillance camera would have been on. I can't recall the page # but that neighbor's statement made me wonder if anyone else has outside cameras that caught anything. I didn't read anything about it in the papers. :gaah:

 

[creepingskills]

#60
CWW is on camera at a gas station wearing the water shoes at 3AM, June 29th.

#3071
Garmin Nuvi 3590 GPS device
https://buy.garmin.com/en-US/US/on-the-road/discontinued/nuvi-3590lmt/prod96637.html

 

[Timekeeper65]

B3067. Det. Nolen met with MS on 6/29/2015 at the Bonita Springs residence of BS, in the presence GS. "Sievers advised that he was vacationing in New York with his wife and children WHEN TERESA DECIDED TO RETURN HOME EARLY TO FLORIDA. He did not know who or why anyone would wish to harm his wife."

Wasn't it already determined when she would return to Florida? Is this the beginning of the deceitful plan to make the BFT murder of Teresa Ann Grace Sievers to appear as robbery gone bad??

 

[Blondie in Spokane]

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B3067. Det. Nolen met with MS on 6/29/2015 at the Bonita Springs residence of BS, in the presence GS. "Sievers advised that he was vacationing in New York with his wife and children WHEN TERESA DECIDED TO RETURN HOME EARLY TO FLORIDA. He did not know who or why anyone would wish to harm his wife."

Wasn't it already determined when she would return to Florida? Is this the beginning of the deceitful plan to make the BFT murder of Teresa Ann Grace Sievers to appear as robbery gone bad??

How odd.....you could be right, but what a dumba$$ if that is what he was attempting! The plane ticket/travel info would immediately be verified by LE. Could MS seriously be that stupid?

 

[Frigga]

^^^ yes. The answer is most definitely yes. I would think untouchable or smarter than would be most accurate. So far, its proven correct. He's certainly not in custody.

 

[Blondie in Spokane]

I'm confused as it just makes no sense to me.....TS had appointments scheduled for Monday morning so it's obvious that she had planned to return to Florida on Sunday night all along. Why would MS blatantly lie about such a detail? What am I missing?

 

[U2forever]

I'm confused as it just makes no sense to me.....TS had appointments scheduled for Monday morning so it's obvious that she had planned to return to Florida on Sunday night all along. Why would MS blatantly lie about such a detail? What am I missing?

Your not missing anything Blondie. MS is a liar, liar, pants on fire and LE does not like liars. Especially murdering liars. Jmo
Keep up the lying MS, we're onto you, and YOUR GOING DOWN!!


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[DexterMorgan]

The sheriff said on day 2 that this seemed isolated and the neighborhood was safe.

So they knew something.

 

[U2forever]

The sheriff said on day 2 that this seemed isolated and the neighborhood was safe.

So they knew something.

Oy vey Dex, I think two idiots fake breaking into the house, bashing TS 17 times with hammers and not stealing a darn thing makes it an isolated and inside h.i.t.
I just love how criminals think LE be stoopid.


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