2016.01.07 Docs - Batch 3 Photos *WARNING - GRAPHIC*

[lstiff]

I would think that they used it to clean up but the drops of blood that are perfectly round don't seem like clean up marks to me. I never thought about the strangulation angle but now that you mention it, it's possible!

 

[human]

Since we know the killing was staged, could it be that CWW was there and greeted TS? After all, they had a pic of beloved CWW on the frig. He could tell her he was working on something for Mark in the home.

The killing may not have been a violent surprise attack when she walked in the door.

 

[passionflower]

I don't think those stains are from boot or shoe or foot. I think they are Teresa's legs.
I am referring to BATES 29358 - 29362
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B717FUtKwdU8Q00wSkNndkpHQ0k/view?pref=2&pli=1

I missed these photos, oh how horrendous of a murder like Travis A................

 

[lstiff]

I missed these photos, oh how horrendous of a murder like Travis A................

Oh yeah, the big dark pool of blood in front of the fridge is just chilling. I really hate that this happened to TS and more so in the one place we should all feel safe, her home.

I still wonder if she recognized CWW or if he wore a mask. I mentioned it up thread but these things move fast. Surely she would recognize him if his face were not covered.

 

[irishchook]

Since we know the killing was staged, could it be that CWW was there and greeted TS? After all, they had a pic of beloved CWW on the frig. He could tell her he was working on something for Mark in the home.

The killing may not have been a violent surprise attack when she walked in the door.

I wonder if the photo of CW was placed there by CW as a sort of hallmark or gold star in "achievement."

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[IQuestion]

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Not sure, but if they had something like this over their shoes...could they have wrapped their shoes in towels? Would either method result in the lack of a boot imprint? The only way I could see this working is if they sorted of skated over the floor. My head is spinning.:scared:

ETA: Did anyone catch any bloody paw prints? How did the dogs avoid stepping in the blood if they were close to TS's body?

Hi ya CREEPINGSKILLS....Just a theory (why not huh?) How about the towels being laid down on the floor and the perps walking out the door on the towels, not leaving any footprints, and picking them up behind them as they exited.]I've attached a picture of how it can be done.....it should help visualize what I mean.
https://modelemployi.files.wordpress.com/2015/06/dirty-towel.jpg
Edited to add: And, of course the perps would want the towels to be black, so if they were stopped while driving back to Missouri, the blood would not be apparent on a routine traffic stop.
Now the purchase of "black towels" just might make sense....to make sure there were not "exiting footprints."

 

[DeDee]

Evil, scary faces

I recall seeing evil faces in the smoke billowing from the Twin Towers disaster in NYC on 9/11.

I'm seeing very scary, evil faces in the blood markings made on Dr. Sievers' tile floors.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B717FUtKwdU8Q00wSkNndkpHQ0k/view?pref=2&pli=1

Bates # 29377 (near the white paper), 29378, 29379, 29380, 29372, 29371 (near white paper), 29366, 29365, 29364 (wears a hat), 29363 (wears a hat)

Please do not linger on these photographs as they contain evil images naturally written in blood to indicate the devil was in the details. :devil:

The Sievers' home may need to be sprinkled with Holy water and perhaps a priest could stop by to bless it with goodness. :heartbeat:

This is only my honest and humble opinion and not meant to annoy, scare or terrify anyone; rather it's to note that evil was present at the CS and those pics now exist on WS. Approach with caution.

:scale: Justice for Teresa, her two daughters, her family and loved ones :rose:

 

[Zuri]

Apologies: GRAPHIC

When I looked at the floor tiles that had the most amount of blood, it appeared to have cerebral spinal fluid (CSF) intermingled causing the bubble look.

I have treated patients with severe head trauma such as Teresa sustained. Needless to say, it is horrific to see. Those times were the only times the room has ever tilted for me.

More than likely she was unconscious very quickly from the blunt force trauma. It appeared to me that most of the blows she sustained were while she was motionless on the floor. Total supposition on my part from looking at the floor. ER floors have looked like that too in the aftermath of a Trauma Code involving severe head injuries.

Those showed no mercy.

 

[debbiegarcia36]

Apologies: GRAPHIC

When I looked at the floor tiles that had the most amount of blood, it appeared to have cerebral spinal fluid (CSF) intermingled causing the bubble look.

I have treated patients with severe head trauma such as Teresa sustained. Needless to say, it is horrific to see. Those times were the only times the room has ever tilted for me.

More than likely she was unconscious very quickly from the blunt force trauma. It appeared to me that most of the blows she sustained were while she was motionless on the floor. Total supposition on my part from looking at the floor. ER floors have looked like that too in the aftermath of a Trauma Code involving severe head injuries.

Those showed no mercy.

So horrible. So viscous. So unnecessary.

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[creepingskills]

Hi ya CREEPINGSKILLS....Just a theory (why not huh?) How about the towels being laid down on the floor and the perps walking out the door on the towels, not leaving any footprints, and picking them up behind them as they exited.]I've attached a picture of how it can be done.....it should help visualize what I mean.
https://modelemployi.files.wordpress.com/2015/06/dirty-towel.jpg
Edited to add: And, of course the perps would want the towels to be black, so if they were stopped while driving back to Missouri, the blood would not be apparent on a routine traffic stop.
Now the purchase of "black towels" just might make sense....to make sure there were not "exiting footprints."

ITA. And when you look at the blood stain pictures, the towel theory really seems plausible.:thinking:

 

[FelicityLemon]

I'm sorry, but I don't know how else to put this and I've struggled with it for days whether to post or not.

Seventeen hammer hits seems excessive for a stranger, unless it's a killer who enjoys it.

What if TS was actually shot (w/ silencer) and the hits were to create access to retrieve the bullet? I know I watch too much TV and movies, but given that Sheriff said there were so much attempt at misdirection (can't remember exactly what he said) and this could be one more.

 

[FightTheOstrich]

I'm sorry, but I don't know how else to put this and I've struggled with it for days whether to post or not.

Seventeen hammer hits seems excessive for a stranger, unless it's a killer who enjoys it.

What if TS was actually shot (w/ silencer) and the hits were to create access to retrieve the bullet? I know I watch too much TV and movies, but given that Sheriff said there were so much attempt at misdirection (can't remember exactly what he said) and this could be one more.

A friend of mine was murdered via the same COD during a random home invasion. My friend received a few more blows/strikes to the head than TS. So I'm not sure if the number of blows/strikes/hits in TS's case would be considered excessive.

 

[creepingskills]

I'm sorry, but I don't know how else to put this and I've struggled with it for days whether to post or not.

Seventeen hammer hits seems excessive for a stranger, unless it's a killer who enjoys it.

What if TS was actually shot (w/ silencer) and the hits were to create access to retrieve the bullet? I know I watch too much TV and movies, but given that Sheriff said there were so much attempt at misdirection (can't remember exactly what he said) and this could be one more.

BBM. Highly unlikely TS suffered a gunshot wound without there being some kind of evidence on her body, at the scene, for ex. gun shot residue on her clothing. Plus, the blood/brain matter spatter would look different from the pictures we've seen. IMO.

 

[creepingskills]

A friend of mine was murdered via the same COD during a random home invasion. My friend received a few more blows/strikes to the head than TS. So I'm not sure if the number of blows/strikes/hits in TS's case would be considered excessive.

And in this case, we might have two murders inflicting hammer blows. :fear:

 

[FightTheOstrich]

And in this case, we might have two murders inflicting hammer blows. :fear:

My friend was killed by 2 intruders. Which may explain why the number of strikes is so similar...

 

[rift]

There is a pic of a toothpick on the counter with some crushed powder and a line. I don't know the number right now (on phone). Really upsetting that these demons were getting high
In her house while waiting. maybe that was staged too but we know they are meth heads.

 

[Scout]

BBM. Highly unlikely TS suffered a gunshot wound without there being some kind of evidence on her body, at the scene, for ex. gun shot residue on her clothing. Plus, the blood/brain matter spatter would look different from the pictures we've seen. IMO.

This is true. I saw no high velocity spatter in any of the pics. All manner of other bloodstain patterns though. All the bloodstain evidence I saw is consistent with bludgeoning with a blunt instrument. And most of it was inflicted while she was down on the floor in front of the fridge.

I wonder if the ME report will be in the next document dump.

 

[jtate0702]

There is a pic of a toothpick on the counter with some crushed powder and a line. I don't know the number right now (on phone). Really upsetting that these demons were getting high
In her house while waiting. maybe that was staged too but we know they are meth heads.

I'm not sure if I am referencing the same photos that you are speaking of, but I think that may be light. If you are talking about the toothpick with the evidence marker "10" in one photo it does show a visible white line beside it. However, looking at the close-up shots, the line is not there. I think it may have been light reflecting off of the countertop. I only mention this, because I thought the same thing until I saw the close-ups. MOO
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B717FUtKwdU8eFhNWmtzWHUyQTg

 

[Dmacky]

I was wondering the same as she is not wearing one in the airport photo.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B717FUtKwdU8TjdpMlRTOTVJNlE/view

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This pic really bothers me a lot. I can't figure out what it is or where it came from.
Could it possibly be a wadded up bed sheet? It looks too big to be a scarf to me now, as I had previously thought.

Another thought I have had regarding the way TS was found, it's possible that the murdering duo made TS lay down on her stomach in the kitchen area close to the refrigerator. I still can't figure out why there are bloodstains on the (butterfly curtain) bathroom door trim as well as the floorboard trim there. Could one of them have hit her after she took her suitcase back to her bedroom and was walking back down the hall towards the kitchen?

Has anyone seen a pic of the doggy door?

 

[irishchook]

This pic really bothers me a lot. I can't figure out what it is or where it came from.
Could it possibly be a wadded up bed sheet? It looks too big to be a scarf to me now, as I had previously thought.

Another thought I have had regarding the way TS was found, it's possible that the murdering duo made TS lay down on her stomach in the kitchen area close to the refrigerator. I still can't figure out why there are bloodstains on the (butterfly curtain) bathroom door trim as well as the floorboard trim there. Could one of them have hit her after she took her suitcase back to her bedroom and was walking back down the hall towards the kitchen?

Has anyone seen a pic of the doggy door?

Do we know if that's not the same suitcase as the one near the scene and LE moved it for whatever reason?

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