3:45 am cops search georges trunk PART 2

[wishingtree]

http://www.wftv.com/news/17393803/detail.html

"Also, early Saturday morning, a source close to the investigation said deputies removed a weapon from the trunk of a car belonging to Casey' father, George Anthony. Such a discovery on the Anthony property could have imperiled Casey Anthony's release from jail, but a spokesman for Orange County Corrections said that a judge ruled that Casey presumably had nothing to do with the weapon."

(((SHERBIE)))...hugs my friend, haven't seen ya in a few days! Thanks so much for the link about the weapon. I have a question for you fellow sleuthers, as I do not carry a weapon. Why would you carry your weapon in the tire well of your vehicle? It certainly wouldn't be convenient to access if you had a need to use it. I can see getting it out of the house to comply with the conditions of the bond, but why wouldn't he have turned it over before Casey came home? It seems that I recall reading yesterday that the Anthony's didn't even realize Casey was coming home Friday morning until they heard it on the news (even though the posted the money??!!??). Could it have been that he notified LE of the weapon being in the home and that he moved it to the tire well where it wouldn't likely be found by Casey or anyone else inside? That could explain them coming so late at night to retrieve it and going right to it rather than searching for it. Perhaps they didn't want to come collect it until all the crowds were gone. Just thinking out loud.....(or in type - lol!)! This is just a theory, not necessarily my opinion. My head is in too much of a whirlwind from all of this weeks "bombshells" to form cohesive thoughts at this moment!! Any thoughts?

ETA: Since the Anthonys have retained their own attorney, maybe George informed him about the weapon and the atty advised him to report it to LE. Just another thought!

 

[passin_through]

nurse,
did George have the gun the LAST time his daughter was on home confinement?

Now that's the question, isn't it?

 

[Prayin_4_Grace]

I still do not understand why they were so wasteful with those. It seems to me they could be freshened up and given to someone else....gosh...even puppies like to have stuffed animals to cuddle. A waste...

I agree SS. I thought it was pretty bad for them to just toss them out when they could have donated them to a shelter or even GoodWill. Lots of children out there would love to have a new toy to cuddle. Maybe not "new" but new to them.

 

[CHICANA]

I also think and this is JMHO that George's outburst have made the sheriffs department feel less then good about him having a gun in his possession. We don't know what they might have discovered about his "leaving" his deputy sheriff's position in Ohio either.

I don't know the gun laws in Florida regarding concealing weapons, but if he is licensed to carry why do they have the right to take it from him ?
Since Casey isn't a convicted felon, is there something in her release preventing her father from keeping his gun ? Did they have a warrant or did GA let them search ?
The idea that LE could take his property and his right to own a firearm based on their feelings is disturbing if true. I'm also wondering what evidence was presented to obtain the warrant.
I'm getting the feeling that LE and the court is trampling all over the Anthony's rights in this case and while it's not important to me that the Anthony's rights are violated, I might feel differently if one day mine are.

 

[curiositycat]

(((SHERBIE)))...hugs my friend, haven't seen ya in a few days! Thanks so much for the link about the weapon. I have a question for you fellow sleuthers, as I do not carry a weapon. Why would you carry your weapon in the tire well of your vehicle? It certainly wouldn't be convenient to access if you had a need to use it. I can see getting it out of the house to comply with the conditions of the bond, but why wouldn't he have turned it over before Casey came home? It seems that I recall reading yesterday that the Anthony's didn't even realize Casey was coming home Friday morning until they heard it on the news (even though the posted the money??!!??). Could it have been that he notified LE of the weapon being in the home and that he moved it to the tire well where it wouldn't likely be found by Casey or anyone else inside? That could explain them coming so late at night to retrieve it and going right to it rather than searching for it. Perhaps they didn't want to come collect it until all the crowds were gone. Just thinking out loud.....(or in type - lol!)! This is just a theory, not necessarily my opinion. My head is in too much of a whirlwind from all of this weeks "bombshells" to form cohesive thoughts at this moment!! Any thoughts?

We carry our in obvious places in our vehicles. Also, it allows us the option to grab them quickly if need be. We live up in the mountains where we have bears, mountain lions ect.

The only reason for leaving that gun in the tire well is to hide it from someone.

But someone close to him had to have known it was there. IT wouldn't be easily accessible that way. IT was a hiding place IMHO.

 

[Isabelle]

If this is part 2, where is part 1?

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

 

[irishbosoxfan]

How did you get LE's shirt on?

Also, you got anything good to eat from that pantry.

And, also, thanks!

I had my regular tshirt on but it kept blocking my hand in the pics so I grabbed one of my daughters off the couch--didn't even think about the color!
Nothing good in the pantry..dang kids

I was hoping by posting a pic it would help people realize it is her arm/hand in the pic and not a stuffed animal--Couldn't get the angle quite right because I had to put the camera on my counter and military housing isn't big enough for me to get further away!

 

[CeeKer]

OK You all made me do it!! Look at the 2 pictures I can't make it any better than that my dog already thinks I'm nuts!!

Now you photoshop wizards add a bag to my pic and voila!!

Oh and forgive me my messy house--Websleuths calls!!

Oh and another thing as you can tell I'm fatter than she is so she has bony elbows!

Although I see where your confusion comes from, I think if you really look at the two pictures you'll see that she couldn't possibly have arms so long that her elbow would fall that low.

 

[OldSarge]

We carry our in obvious places in our vehicles. Also, it allows us the option to grab them quickly if need be. We live up in the mountains where we have bears, mountain lions ect.

The only reason for leaving that gun in the tire well is to hide it from someone.

But someone close to him had to have known it was there. IT wouldn't be easily accessible that way. IT was a hiding place IMHO.

It is very likely that LE contacted George INSIDE the home and asked him to produce his REGISTERED firearm. George told LE where to find it. LE told George to stay inside while they recovered the weapon.

 

[kathyn2]

Chicana, people out on bail are not allowed to have any weapons. period. They can't have any weapons at the house. That is why it was taken.

 

[TKS2003]

seems to me that home confinement (since it is a condition) would make SURE and question the persons in the home about weapons BEFORE RELEASE. This just don't fly any way I look at it! He was hiding that stupid weapon! She either needs to be moved somewhere else or put back in the slammer. You cannot trust these parents to be truthful about having weapons on the property or anything else for that matter! imho imho.......frustrated nurse LOL

Yeah, what she said!!

These people are really aggravating the crap out of me, they think they are above the law, the world revolves around them, and we should blindly believe their outrageous lies.....
AAARRRRGGG!!!

 

[nursebeeme]

I don't know the gun laws in Florida regarding concealing weapons, but if he is licensed to carry why do they have the right to take it from him ?
Since Casey isn't a convicted felon, is there something in her release preventing her father from keeping his gun ? Did they have a warrant or did GA let them search ?
The idea that LE could take his property and his right to own a firearm based on their feelings is disturbing if true. I'm also wondering what evidence was presented to obtain the warrant.
I'm getting the feeling that LE and the court is trampling all over the Anthony's rights in this case and while it's not important to me that the Anthony's rights are violated, I might feel differently if one day mine are.

because Casey is on home confinement in his home and one of the conditions of home confinement is NO WEAPONS. He was hiding the dammm gun in the wheel well of his car...she can go into the garage...it is part of the home as is the front and back yards. George knew this last time and he knew it yesterday when she walked out of that jail and in his house. And yet cops pull a gun...a CONCEALED GUN....out of the well of his auto! He cannot explain that one away...that he locked the car and Casey didn't have access to the keys, etc blah blah blah. Just like the shed. Just like the pool ladder and the gas cans and her stealing from her grandfather. This case makes me PUKE. sorry for yelling. I am so done with the crap in this case. She is not safe at home. She needs to be back in jail.

 

[CHICANA]

I think it is a power play by the sheriffs office. They are "stripping him of his power" so to speak.

He seems to have really poor impulse control.

I still wonder if he helped Casey.

Great, the cops can come get your property because they think you have poor impulse control, it doesn't matter that you don't have a criminal record and you are legally entitled to possess it.
It's so easy to give up the rights of others.

 

[JBean]

because Casey is on home confinement in his home and one of the conditions of home confinement is NO WEAPONS. He was hiding the dammm gun in the wheel well of his car...she can go into the garage...it is part of the home as is the front and back yards. George knew this last time and he knew it yesterday when she walked out of that jail and in his house. And yet cops pull a gun...a CONCEALED GUN....out of the well of his auto! He cannot explain that one away...that he locked the car and Casey didn't have access to the keys, etc blah blah blah. Just like the shed. Just like the pool ladder and the gas cans and her stealing from her grandfather. This case makes me PUKE. sorry for yelling. I am so done with the crap in this case. She is not safe at home. She needs to be back in jail.

Maybe George hid it in the car to make sure it was not in the house. Perhaps he thought this would be in compliance by keeping it out of the house.

 

[Waddles]

(((SHERBIE)))...hugs my friend, haven't seen ya in a few days! Thanks so much for the link about the weapon. I have a question for you fellow sleuthers, as I do not carry a weapon. Why would you carry your weapon in the tire well of your vehicle? It certainly wouldn't be convenient to access if you had a need to use it. I can see getting it out of the house to comply with the conditions of the bond, but why wouldn't he have turned it over before Casey came home? It seems that I recall reading yesterday that the Anthony's didn't even realize Casey was coming home Friday morning until they heard it on the news (even though the posted the money??!!??). Could it have been that he notified LE of the weapon being in the home and that he moved it to the tire well where it wouldn't likely be found by Casey or anyone else inside? That could explain them coming so late at night to retrieve it and going right to it rather than searching for it. Perhaps they didn't want to come collect it until all the crowds were gone. Just thinking out loud.....(or in type - lol!)! This is just a theory, not necessarily my opinion. My head is in too much of a whirlwind from all of this weeks "bombshells" to form cohesive thoughts at this moment!! Any thoughts?

ETA: Since the Anthonys have retained their own attorney, maybe George informed him about the weapon and the atty advised him to report it to LE. Just another thought!

Makes sense to me!

 

[irishbosoxfan]

Great, the cops can come get your property because they think you have poor impulse control, it doesn't matter that you don't have a criminal record and you are legally entitled to possess it.
It's so easy to give up the rights of others.

He's legally entitled to possess it but he cannot have it on the property because of the bond

 

[not_my_kids]

Great, the cops can come get your property because they think you have poor impulse control, it doesn't matter that you don't have a criminal record and you are legally entitled to possess it.
It's so easy to give up the rights of others.

You are not legally owned to own it when you invite a person on bond into your home.
That is one of the legal exceptions to the right to bear arms. Stated very clearly. Court orders are important things and cannot be ignored.

 

[JBean]

I don't know the gun laws in Florida regarding concealing weapons, but if he is licensed to carry why do they have the right to take it from him ?
Since Casey isn't a convicted felon, is there something in her release preventing her father from keeping his gun ? Did they have a warrant or did GA let them search ?
The idea that LE could take his property and his right to own a firearm based on their feelings is disturbing if true. I'm also wondering what evidence was presented to obtain the warrant.
I'm getting the feeling that LE and the court is trampling all over the Anthony's rights in this case and while it's not important to me that the Anthony's rights are violated, I might feel differently if one day mine are.

I think it is a violation of casey's home confinement. But, I also think he may have assumed that keeping it locked in the car was sufficient to satisfy this condition. I think this is a big nothing. Probably self reported by George.

 

[OldSarge]

Great, the cops can come get your property because they think you have poor impulse control, it doesn't matter that you don't have a criminal record and you are legally entitled to possess it.
It's so easy to give up the rights of others.

George "gave up" SOME of his rights when he allowed Caysee to come home. Sorry but true.

 

[curiositycat]

I don't know the gun laws in Florida regarding concealing weapons, but if he is licensed to carry why do they have the right to take it from him ?
Since Casey isn't a convicted felon, is there something in her release preventing her father from keeping his gun ? Did they have a warrant or did GA let them search ?
The idea that LE could take his property and his right to own a firearm based on their feelings is disturbing if true. I'm also wondering what evidence was presented to obtain the warrant.
I'm getting the feeling that LE and the court is trampling all over the Anthony's rights in this case and while it's not important to me that the Anthony's rights are violated, I might feel differently if one day mine are.

Well, you are right. Their rights are being tampered with. They have also played games with LE, accused them of not doing there job, said terrible things about TES. It's in a grey area because his daughter whose bond says there cannot be guns in the house is staying there.

If he wants to hire an attorney he can fight them. Same as Drew Peterson. Remember how he fought to get his guns back.

If you make LE your enemy they can and will harass you. I am not saying it's right, but I know for sure it happens.

In this case I am with OCSO and FBI all the way!! If George lost it, as he is prone to do, he could go out and kill a citizen.

The answer to your question is that they probably did violate his rights, but it's a grey area in this case and they are going to take advantage of it.

It seems to me that they love keeping this family off guard. The 2:45 am visit is proof of that to me.