4 Univ of Idaho Students Murdered, Bryan Kohberger Arrested, Moscow, Nov 2022 #102

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First mistake was to purchase at Amazon. We know he didnt accidentally clicked on “add to cart” to purchase K-Bar and sharpener. He’s then on his merry way… he’d been thinking about this for months and now it’s starting to materialize so once it’s done, he’s got to take a selfie. What a sick evil thing he's got inside. jmo
 
To me that's the creepiest part. He looks like a vampire.

I couldn't put my finger on it, but you are right!

I mean he stays up late at night, stalks victims in their homes, and is all about blood.

He looks like a Nightstalker, which includes vampires and more.
And drained his victims of their blood.

He is EVERY monster. And I don't think it's metaphorical. I think he is PURPOSEFULLY an amalgam of the serial killers he studied.

JMO
 
First mistake was to purchase at Amazon. We know he didnt accidentally clicked on “add to cart” to purchase K-Bar and sharpener. He’s then on his merry way… he’d been thinking about this for months and now it’s starting to materialize so once it’s done, he’s got to take a selfie. What a sick evil thing he's got inside. jmo
I wonder if his shopping history on Amazon auto-populated ads on his family's internet due to the nature of shared accounts.

No one is going to think BK suddenly had an interest in hunting, camping or fish-fileting.

That knife is a weapon.

JMO
 
Never thought of this
We do know that XK was on TikTok mere minutes before being murdered. Was she likely wearing earbuds at that hour, while others were sleeping? Are the earbuds he is seen wearing his, or might they have been hers? Was there some special reason that he left them in for that creepy photo?
JMO
 
We do know that XK was on TikTok mere minutes before being murdered. Was she likely wearing earbuds at that hour, while others were sleeping? Are the earbuds he is seen wearing his, or might they have been hers? Was there some special reason that he left them in for that creepy photo?
JMO
If one is using earbuds to listen to TikTok, if said earbuds were -- say -- ripped out, would the TikTok clip continue to play at volume or would it stop?

JMO
 
If one is using earbuds to listen to TikTok, if said earbuds were -- say -- ripped out, would the TikTok clip continue to play at volume or would it stop?

JMO
I am no audio expert, but I believe that sound will continue to play through the earbuds until they are out of bluetooth range, at which time, any sound would come out through phone's speakers. JMO
 
He wanted a selfie to remind himself what a great job he did taking the lives of young innocent people, with personalities, looks and success he could never attain to. The picture, along with the sheaf seals his fate.
Whether he is autistic or has other disabilities doesn’t even matter at this point. No sympathies from me. If I am on the jury, he’s going down fast.
Early on we had lots of discussion about BK being a criminology student and what his "fantasy" might have been about committing this crime and getting away with it.

For example that it might have been about him showing that he could outsmart LE, plan the perfect crime, etc.

So my thought upon seeing the post-murder selfie, especially with the thumbs-up, is to wonder how he might have intended the photo to be part of his documentation of him being the perfect criminal. (((shudder)))

MOO
 
whenever my mind starts to wander against the DP...I just have to think of these horrible terrifying, vicious and depraved..murders. and I'm not against it... the PHD student claiming mental incapacitation just will never fly either.
Has he killed before? could he get a plea deal in exchange for other victims? I just feel like you need to work your way up to quadruple homicide...maybe his peeping and burglarizing? stalking...how about some SA's ? how about pets in the neighborhood?...( something his sister might know) ... so far no one further has come forward to say they were victimized by him. Wonder if there are any missing girls, sex workers in areas near where he has lived..? missing children? I don't trust he wouldn't harm children, he's a total deviant sub-species. mOO
 
whenever my mind starts to wander against the DP...I just have to think of these horrible terrifying, vicious and depraved..murders. and I'm not against it... the PHD student claiming mental incapacitation just will never fly either.
Has he killed before? could he get a plea deal in exchange for other victims? I just feel like you need to work your way up to quadruple homicide...maybe his peeping and burglarizing? stalking...how about some SA's ? how about pets in the neighborhood?...( something his sister might know) ... so far no one further has come forward to say they were victimized by him. Wonder if there are any missing girls, sex workers in areas near where he has lived..? missing children? I don't trust he wouldn't harm children, he's a total deviant sub-species. mOO
I agree -- a quadruple murder is rare entry into capital crime. But if for two unknowns (that KG/Murphy would be there and XK awake and active), BK may have planned for and executed a single murder. And gotten more brazen from there.

JMO
 
So since the Amazon purchases has officially been released, been wondering if AT will pivot from the sheath with BK’s DNA on it was planted, to the sheath AND the knife were lost/misplaced by BK and/or stolen. That is unless AT gets her way and the Judge throws out the Amazon purchase evidence which I doubt Judge H would grant.

Anyway assuming the Amazon evidence is admissible, I wonder how the Defense will respond when the prosecution presents proof of purchase Exhibits at trial? Is AT going to call an expert witness to try to plant (pardon the pun) doubt that it could’ve been someone else in the family that purchased the knife and sheath because it was a family shared Amazon account? Then what, prosecution calls BK family members to the stand to testify they didn’t order or purchase the items, they know it was BK that purchased them? Unless prosecution can prove it was ordered from BK’s personal computer/laptop/phone?

My family and I have our own Amazon accounts so I’m not familiar with how the shared account works. I’m curious about the form of payment used when the family makes purchases whether the family can each have their own credit or debit card attached and depending on who’s purchasing, select the card that belongs to them at checkout. Can a family member go into the shared account and select one of their other family members names and make it appear as though it was someone else that purchased the items? What I’m getting at here is, could BK have purchased the items under his Father or one of his Sisters’ names shopping carts and selected/paid with their card attached checkout? The P noted in their response they verified the knife and sheath purchases. I mean I assume the P have proof in the form of the Amazon orders and payment receipts but I’m wondering if those show as ordered and purchased in BK’s name with HIS credit or debit card. But what if say his Dad bought them under his own name and credit card as a gift for BK or something? I guess his Dad just testifies to that right?

Anyway if AT concedes that her client purchased the knife and sheath but he misplaced them or they were stolen, wouldn’t BK have to testify to explain how either happened? Where was the last place you remember having them in your possession etc? Which opens up prosecution questioning why didn’t you report you misplaced them/they were stolen? Ooofff.

IMO it beggars belief that a Criminology student and PhD candidate living 9-10 miles away, who showed an interest in working in LE, didn’t report his Ka-Bar knife and sheath were lost/missing/stolen when news reports were circulating about fatal stabbing of 4 U of I students within a few days of said stabbings.

I don’t believe AT wants BK to take the stand but I don’t know how they can get around a he lost/misplaced the sheath without him testifying about when’s the last time he had possession of it, or will they just mention it in opening/closing statement. Mr. Kohberger admits he purchased the knife and sheath but lost them/someone stole them??? Opening & closing statements aren’t evidence I know but perhaps she thinks mentioning it in her statements will have some impact on the jury???

IMO jury members are absolutely going to want to know when he last had them in his possession. He may claim he lost/misplaced them while still living in PA before moving to WA.
And what? waited until late November/early December 2022 to shop around on Amazon (clicks) for new knife and sheath (coincidentally just after the massacre occured).

I think he was shopping in late Nov/early December 2022 looking to buy new knife and sheath in case police came knocking to show them he still had his knife and sheath.

The Amazon purchases and shopping/clicking is another stupid move on BK’s part with regards to leaving another digital trail. I suspect it’s just the tip of the iceberg and they have much more on this guy that’s still under seal. Been thinking maybe we should start a poll for whether or not we think BK will plea before trial.

IMHOO
 
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I hope that BK parents didn't buy him that knife and sheath for a gift. Ugh!
"The prosecution’s new filings show Kohberger, a 30-year-old former graduate student in criminology, had purchased a military-style knife, a sheath and a knife sharpener on Amazon in the months leading up to the killings."

My guess would be it was a shared account but BK used his own debit card for the purchase. M00

 
So since the Amazon purchases has officially been released, been wondering if AT will pivot from the sheath with BK’s DNA on it was planted, to the sheath AND the knife were misplaced by BK and/or stolen. That is unless AT gets her way and the Judge throws out the Amazon purchase evidence which I doubt Judge H would grant.

Anyway assuming the Amazon evidence is admissible, I wonder how the Defense will respond when the prosecution presents proof of purchase Exhibits at trial? Is AT going to call an expert witness to try to plant (pardon the pun) doubt that it could’ve been someone else in the family that purchased the knife and sheath because it was a family shared Amazon account? Then what, prosecution calls BK family members to the stand to testify they didn’t order or purchase the items, they know it was BK that purchased them? Unless prosecution can prove it was ordered from BK’s personal computer/laptop/phone?

My family and I have our own Amazon accounts so I’m not familiar with how the shared account works. I’m curious about the form of payment used when the family makes purchases whether the family can each have their own credit or debit card attached and depending on who’s purchasing, select the card that belongs to them at checkout. Can a family member go into the shared account and select one of their other family members names and make it appear as though it was someone else that purchased the items? What I’m getting at here is, could BK have purchased the items under his Father or one of his Sisters’ names shopping carts and selected/paid with their card attached checkout? I’m pretty sure the P noted they verified the knife and sheath purchases but it’s a little vague. I mean I assume the P have proof in the form of the Amazon orders and payment receipts but I’m wondering if those show as ordered and purchased in BK’s name with his credit or debit card. But what if say his Dad bought them under his own name and credit card as a gift for BK or something? I guess his Dad just testifies to that right?

Anyway if AT concedes that her client purchased the knife and sheath but he misplaced them or they were stolen, wouldn’t BK have to testify to explain how either happened? Where was the last place you remember having them in your possession etc, etc?Which opens up prosecution questioning why didn’t you report you misplaced them/they were stolen? Ooofff.

IMO it beggars belief that a Criminology student and PhD candidate living 9-10 miles away, who showed an interest in working in LE, didn’t report his Ka-Bar knife and sheath were missing/stolen when news reports were circulating about fatal stabbing of 4 U of I students within a few days of said stabbings.

I don’t believe AT wants him to take the stand but I don’t know how they can get around a he lost/misplaced the sheath without him testifying about when’s the last time he had possession of it, or will they just mention it in opening/closing statement. Mr. Kohberger admits he purchased the sheath but lost it???? Opening & closing statements aren’t evidence I know but perhaps she thinks mentioning it in her statements will have some impact on the jury???

IMO jury members are absolutely going to want to know when he last had them in his possession. He may claim he lost/misplaced them while still living in PA before moving to WA.
And what? waited until late November and early December 2022 to shop for new knife and sheath (coincidentally just after the massacre occured).

I think he was shopping in late Nov/early December 2022 looking to buy new knife and sheath in case police came knocking to show them he still had his knife and sheath.
This Amazon purchase and shopping/clicking is another stupid move on BK’s part with regard to leaving another digital trail. I suspect it’s just the tip of the iceberg and they have much more on this guy that’s still under seal. We should start a poll for whether or not we think BK will plea before trial.

IMHOO



IMHOO
The State appears prepared to answer for all that.

Linking his purchase history, CCs and simultaneous purchase(s) that only correspond to BK. He must have thrown something in with his purchase that only he could use. Like shoes. In a size that fit no one else in the family. Or maybe personal or toiletry item specific to him.

Unless he insists over his own counsels advice, I don't see BK testifying at all.

AT's best recourse will be in his she handles cross. HER testimony will come in the form of questions, the State will be hot to object to, but she'll target them anyway -- "Expert, can you say FOR CERTAIN who was holding the knife sheath on that morning?" "Expert, can you see BK in ANY of the Elantra images?" "Does being drunk impair one's memory, can it really be trusted?" Weak potshots but it's all she'll have to work with IMO.

She tries to sell that selfie as BK wearing his Easter clothes, business as usual, proof he's not the murderer because what kind of person takes a selfie after a murder, in a button down, that will backfire in a very big way.

He LOOKS like someone who only comes out at night.

JMO
 
The State appears prepared to answer for all that.

Linking his purchase history, CCs and simultaneous purchase(s) that only correspond to BK. He must have thrown something in with his purchase that only he could use. Like shoes. In a size that fit no one else in the family. Or maybe personal or toiletry item specific to him.

Unless he insists over his own counsels advice, I don't see BK testifying at all.

AT's best recourse will be in his she handles cross. HER testimony will come in the form of questions, the State will be hot to object to, but she'll target them anyway -- "Expert, can you say FOR CERTAIN who was holding the knife sheath on that morning?" "Expert, can you see BK in ANY of the Elantra images?" "Does being drunk impair one's memory, can it really be trusted?" Weak potshots but it's all she'll have to work with IMO.

She tries to sell that selfie as BK wearing his Easter clothes, business as usual, proof he's not the murderer because what kind of person takes a selfie after a murder, in a button down, that will backfire in a very big way.

He LOOKS like someone who only comes out at night.

JMO
True all that. And good point about throwing something in with the purchase only he could use, I didn’t think of that!

Honestly given the context, that selfie is bone chilling, I’ve hardly been able to look at it again. One of those things that once you see it, can’t unsee it. o_O

IMHOO
 
Sorry, I am just stuck and struck by the thumbs up selfie. I think he dyed his hair for some reason. Just a guess. To look different in the immediate aftermath?
I think it's hair product. Like petroleum jelly that will take a while to wash out but may have part of a super glue plan to avoid shedding hair.

He maybe should have tried it with his eyeshrubery.

Photo continues to scare me.

JMO
 
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