Interesting ... And another search warrant for Instagram sought data for accounts held by Xana, Kaylee and Madison dating back to June 23, 2022. Investigators already had obtained that information for Xana, Kaylee and Ethan from Aug. 1-Dec. 1, 2022.
4 Univ of Idaho Students Murdered, Bryan Kohberger Arrested, Moscow, Nov 2022 #91
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You can stream the public Bryan Kohberger hearing at 1pm pacific time/4pm eastern time. Link here:https://youtube.com/@judgejohnjudge/featuredTo catch up on what to expect, watch this:
You can stream the public Bryan Kohberger hearing at 1pm pacific time/4pm eastern time. Link here:https://youtube.com/@judgejohnjudge/featuredTo catch up on what to expect, watch this:
Every time I read the comments on a Twitter post, I am more thankful for Websleuths. Woof. People are horrible.
Kaylee Goncalves' parents share new details about how daughter killed in Idaho murders was found
The parents of Kaylee Goncalves sat down with ABC News for an exclusive interview, sharing new details of how she was found, as well as never-before-released images of her.
The parents of Kaylee Goncalves sat down with ABC News for an exclusive interview, sharing new details of how she was found,
They were able to collect some of Kaylee's belongings from the university over the summer, which raised concerns for them about how well possible evidence was processed -- including a trash can from Kaylee's room that was full and appeared untouched.
. . .
Kristi describes for the first time how Kaylee was found.
"The side where Kaylee was, was up against the wall. And if you can imagine, Kaylee in an upright sort of position - up in the corner - slumped. I mean she was trapped," she described. "The bed, the bed was the entire room. You could barely open up the door without swiping the foot of the bed - and it was wall, wall. You know, the headboard was up against the wall."
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New guest added: Very much looking forward to having NewsNation's @alcaprari23 on our stream for the first time. He'll be joining us live from #Idaho ahead of the Kohberger hearing.
New guest added: Very much looking forward to having NewsNation's @alcaprari23 on our stream for the first time. He'll be joining us live from #Idaho ahead of the Kohberger hearing.
@alcaprari23
Trying to decide how to best cover this #BryanKohberger hearing. There is no live tweeting INSIDE the courtroom. But I can very well sit outside the courtroom, watch the livestream and live tweet what I hear. Is that something you guys would want to see? I will have a producer monitoring Kohberger's behavior from inside who can fill me in once the hearing is over. #Idaho4
12:51 PM · Jan 26, 2024 from Moscow, ID
The afternoon hearing at 1pmPT. The early hearing is secret and won't be live-streamed nor can we attend in person.
1:24 PM · Jan 26, 2024 from Moscow, ID
Trying to decide how to best cover this #BryanKohberger hearing. There is no live tweeting INSIDE the courtroom. But I can very well sit outside the courtroom, watch the livestream and live tweet what I hear. Is that something you guys would want to see? I will have a producer monitoring Kohberger's behavior from inside who can fill me in once the hearing is over. #Idaho4
12:51 PM · Jan 26, 2024 from Moscow, ID
The afternoon hearing at 1pmPT. The early hearing is secret and won't be live-streamed nor can we attend in person.
1:24 PM · Jan 26, 2024 from Moscow, ID
From the videoKaylee Goncalves' parents share new details about how daughter killed in Idaho murders was found
The parents of Kaylee Goncalves sat down with ABC News for an exclusive interview, sharing new details of how she was found, as well as never-before-released images of her.abc7news.com
The parents of Kaylee Goncalves sat down with ABC News for an exclusive interview, sharing new details of how she was found,
They were able to collect some of Kaylee's belongings from the university over the summer, which raised concerns for them about how well possible evidence was processed -- including a trash can from Kaylee's room that was full and appeared untouched.
. . .
Kristi describes for the first time how Kaylee was found.
"The side where Kaylee was, was up against the wall. And if you can imagine, Kaylee in an upright sort of position - up in the corner - slumped. I mean she was trapped," she described. "The bed, the bed was the entire room. You could barely open up the door without swiping the foot of the bed - and it was wall, wall. You know, the headboard was up against the wall."
Concerning the trash can: Kaylee's mom: "it did not appear to have been gone through."
I am not an investigator, however, why would they not preserve it and take the whole trash can with them? moo
I don't understand why they are doing this. If they believe that BK killed them, which it appears that they do, why are they speaking out about a bungled investigation and criticizing it? Do they want to give the defense avenues to explore to help BK? I truly don't understand. The FBI processed that scene. If there was something in the trash can, they would have taken it.
For anyone who is interested:
The suspect accused of killing four University of Idaho students in November 2022 is making a second attempt at getting the charges thrown out.Bryan Kohberger, 29, is charged with four counts of murder and one count of burglary in connection with the stabbing deaths of Kaylee Goncalves, Madison Mogen, Xana Kernodle and Ethan Chapin.Kohberger tried to get the charges thrown out before, and he’s asking again to have the indictment dismissed, claiming there was improper conduct during the grand jury proceedings.
IDAHO V. KOHBERGER: Live Courtroom Feed, Hearing Coverage via Judge John Judge Channel |
The suspect accused of killing four University of Idaho students in November 2022 is making a second attempt at getting the charges thrown out.Bryan Kohberger, 29, is charged with four counts of murder and one count of burglary in connection with the stabbing deaths of Kaylee Goncalves, Madison Mogen, Xana Kernodle and Ethan Chapin.Kohberger tried to get the charges thrown out before, and he’s asking again to have the indictment dismissed, claiming there was improper conduct during the grand jury proceedings.
This case was local to me and such a horror--and a perfect reminder to this case--despite having a lot of details prior to the trial, there was SO much we didn't know that came out during the trial about the details of that night and what really happened.
Ya, personally I'm surprised that they didn't. Those kid apple sauce snack pouches are sometimes used to mixed crush medication/supplements/pills into it. I'm not implying anything at all and I know the toxicology reports could answer those questions. I'm just wondering why the police weren't wondering themselves.
#BryanKohberger Hearing
Long line to get into today's hearing in Moscow, ID. In about 10 minutes, the second of two hearings will begin, which should include the judge and legal teams deciding an official start date for the criminal trial to begin.
The first hearing today was off-limits to the public and media. The defense was asking the judge to re-consider his decision to deny their motion to toss out the grand jury indictment. Because the hearing discussed evidence of the crime, it was kept secret behind closed doors.
The Goncalves family enters the Latah County Courthouse.
This is the first hearing that will be livestreamed from the Judge's YouTube page for the public to watch. You can view our broadcast here to follow along.
Long line to get into today's hearing in Moscow, ID. In about 10 minutes, the second of two hearings will begin, which should include the judge and legal teams deciding an official start date for the criminal trial to begin.
The first hearing today was off-limits to the public and media. The defense was asking the judge to re-consider his decision to deny their motion to toss out the grand jury indictment. Because the hearing discussed evidence of the crime, it was kept secret behind closed doors.
The Goncalves family enters the Latah County Courthouse.
This is the first hearing that will be livestreamed from the Judge's YouTube page for the public to watch. You can view our broadcast here to follow along.
@alcaprari23
This is the first hearing that will be livestreamed from the Judge's YouTube page for the public to watch. You can view our broadcast here to follow along.
I, too, am frantically refreshing the Judge's livestream. I don't think it has started yet. I will let you know when I get it up and running.
Ok, my livestream is up and running. We are officially on the record.
#BryanKohberger is in the courtroom and is wearing a suit and tie. Judge John Judge also has a camera trained on him. Ashley Jennings and Elisa Massoth also have cameras on them.Judge begins describing the first hearing, which he says is secret due to it's discussion on grand jury proceedings and evidence. Judge plugs his YouTube page, which is handling the livestream from here on out.
Judge says he is addressing reconsideration of the order denying the motion to dismiss indictment. That order is focused on the defense's claim of inaccurate instructions to the grand jury. Also to be discussed is a potential appeal to that decision, which would stay the case.
Defense is going first. Asking the court to give it's blessing to take up the issue to the Idaho Supreme Court. The Idaho Supreme Court has a rule that lays out that this is only to be done in rare circumstances.
Defense's argument is that in order for this case to be dismissed, the indictment must be invalid. They want to explore that.Defense says without permission to appeal, they may never get a good answer. That is important to #BryanKohberger since it would dictate if he goes to trial.
Big issue: How it might affect the timeliness of an actual criminal trial. Defense believes if a trial is scheduled, an appeal at this point won't disturb that potential timeline. Defense says this isn't meaning to achieve a delay, but to make sure Bryan Kohberger is getting due process through every step of the case and no stone is left unturned.
This is the first hearing that will be livestreamed from the Judge's YouTube page for the public to watch. You can view our broadcast here to follow along.
I, too, am frantically refreshing the Judge's livestream. I don't think it has started yet. I will let you know when I get it up and running.
Ok, my livestream is up and running. We are officially on the record.
#BryanKohberger is in the courtroom and is wearing a suit and tie. Judge John Judge also has a camera trained on him. Ashley Jennings and Elisa Massoth also have cameras on them.Judge begins describing the first hearing, which he says is secret due to it's discussion on grand jury proceedings and evidence. Judge plugs his YouTube page, which is handling the livestream from here on out.
Judge says he is addressing reconsideration of the order denying the motion to dismiss indictment. That order is focused on the defense's claim of inaccurate instructions to the grand jury. Also to be discussed is a potential appeal to that decision, which would stay the case.
Defense is going first. Asking the court to give it's blessing to take up the issue to the Idaho Supreme Court. The Idaho Supreme Court has a rule that lays out that this is only to be done in rare circumstances.
Defense's argument is that in order for this case to be dismissed, the indictment must be invalid. They want to explore that.Defense says without permission to appeal, they may never get a good answer. That is important to #BryanKohberger since it would dictate if he goes to trial.
Big issue: How it might affect the timeliness of an actual criminal trial. Defense believes if a trial is scheduled, an appeal at this point won't disturb that potential timeline. Defense says this isn't meaning to achieve a delay, but to make sure Bryan Kohberger is getting due process through every step of the case and no stone is left unturned.
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Exactly--- good grief-- <modsnip: not victim friendly>
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Prosecution will now argue. Mentions past case law, which shows that probable cause being the standard of proof for a grand jury. Says defense does not made a solid argument that an appeal won't affect the timeline that's being set up in the trial court. Believes that it would reset the case entirely and pros. believes this case needs to get to trial ASAP.
Now discussing the possibility of a stay of proceedings, which would essentially hit the pause button on the case until the appeal process is complete. Prosecution says the court would lose its power and authority of the case while the appeal process is undergoing, which would cause significant delays.
There are still major hurdles ahead for both sides in terms of discovery and expert testimony. All of those issues couldn't be resolved while an appeal process is happening.
Prosecution says victims and their families have a constitutional right to speedy justice. Says the trial court should not tolerate any delays over arguments the defense finds interesting.Defense's rebuttal: They believe it's worth a second-glance from a higher court. Says they are not running from anything or anybody and they just want to make sure that the case proceedings are done correctly. Defense again asks for permission to get the Idaho Supreme Court's opinion on the grand jury process.
Prosecution will now argue. Mentions past case law, which shows that probable cause being the standard of proof for a grand jury. Says defense does not made a solid argument that an appeal won't affect the timeline that's being set up in the trial court. Believes that it would reset the case entirely and pros. believes this case needs to get to trial ASAP.
Now discussing the possibility of a stay of proceedings, which would essentially hit the pause button on the case until the appeal process is complete. Prosecution says the court would lose its power and authority of the case while the appeal process is undergoing, which would cause significant delays.
There are still major hurdles ahead for both sides in terms of discovery and expert testimony. All of those issues couldn't be resolved while an appeal process is happening.
Prosecution says victims and their families have a constitutional right to speedy justice. Says the trial court should not tolerate any delays over arguments the defense finds interesting.Defense's rebuttal: They believe it's worth a second-glance from a higher court. Says they are not running from anything or anybody and they just want to make sure that the case proceedings are done correctly. Defense again asks for permission to get the Idaho Supreme Court's opinion on the grand jury process.
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she said it didn't appear to have been gone through- she does not know for sure that it wasn't and she should have addressed this issue with the police, instead of alleging a bungled investigation- giving the defense ammunition to allege the same thing.
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Judge expressed doubt that the Idaho Supreme Court would find any different opinion over the grand jury process than what he has found after hearing the arguments about the standard of proof (due process vs. probable cause).
4:25 PM · Jan 26, 2024
Judge says he is very concerned about delaying a trial. Says sending it to the Idaho Supreme Court would almost certainly cause delay, saying it could add another year."Even if the supreme court takes up this appeal...if I deny it, the supreme court can still pick up the appeal. It's up to them. But they do look at what the district judge's opinion, may have some bearing on that. I hope so. But they can still overturn the orders of this court..."
4:27 PM · Jan 26, 2024
Judge expressed doubt that the Idaho Supreme Court would find any different opinion over the grand jury process than what he has found after hearing the arguments about the standard of proof (due process vs. probable cause).
4:25 PM · Jan 26, 2024
Judge says he is very concerned about delaying a trial. Says sending it to the Idaho Supreme Court would almost certainly cause delay, saying it could add another year."Even if the supreme court takes up this appeal...if I deny it, the supreme court can still pick up the appeal. It's up to them. But they do look at what the district judge's opinion, may have some bearing on that. I hope so. But they can still overturn the orders of this court..."
4:27 PM · Jan 26, 2024
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Reading case law: "An appeal must be exceptional...in my opinion, I do not find that the criteria is satisfied for permissive appeal...overall it is settled as far as I am concerned and there is no difference in opinion that I am aware of." "I am denying the permission for appeal.”
We are now moving onto the scheduling conference.Bill Thompson speaking now. Addressing an allegation the defense made that the "state is trying to kill someone." Thompson takes offense to that, and says that he is fulfil his responsibilities under the law, and a trial jury will make the final decision of Kohberger's fate.
Thompson discusses competing interests: Speedy trial, stakes, victim's/family needs. Says they need to move forward to trial in a productive fashion.Thompson says he proposed Summer 2024 for trial, and he believes they can be prepared by then. Mentions reasons why summer is best: Public School/UI both out for the summer. Says it's not fair to students, school district & media. Also mentions lodging difficulties that could exist if the trial occurs while UI is in session. Says trial will involve many out-of-town witnesses who will need to have a place to stay.
Defense says they do not believe a Summer 2024 trial is realistic in any way. Instead suggests Summer 2025. Defense says they plan to file a motion for a change of venue, meaning the trial would not take place in Latah County. That would be big news because the courtroom is rather small here and would involve transporting
Defense does not believe this is a six-week trial, instead suggests a 12-15 week trial given the complicated nature of the evidence. Defense says there are a lot of things that still need to be done. Says they have been active in this case and seeking discovery since the day they were assigned.
Reading case law: "An appeal must be exceptional...in my opinion, I do not find that the criteria is satisfied for permissive appeal...overall it is settled as far as I am concerned and there is no difference in opinion that I am aware of." "I am denying the permission for appeal.”
We are now moving onto the scheduling conference.Bill Thompson speaking now. Addressing an allegation the defense made that the "state is trying to kill someone." Thompson takes offense to that, and says that he is fulfil his responsibilities under the law, and a trial jury will make the final decision of Kohberger's fate.
Thompson discusses competing interests: Speedy trial, stakes, victim's/family needs. Says they need to move forward to trial in a productive fashion.Thompson says he proposed Summer 2024 for trial, and he believes they can be prepared by then. Mentions reasons why summer is best: Public School/UI both out for the summer. Says it's not fair to students, school district & media. Also mentions lodging difficulties that could exist if the trial occurs while UI is in session. Says trial will involve many out-of-town witnesses who will need to have a place to stay.
Defense says they do not believe a Summer 2024 trial is realistic in any way. Instead suggests Summer 2025. Defense says they plan to file a motion for a change of venue, meaning the trial would not take place in Latah County. That would be big news because the courtroom is rather small here and would involve transporting
Defense does not believe this is a six-week trial, instead suggests a 12-15 week trial given the complicated nature of the evidence. Defense says there are a lot of things that still need to be done. Says they have been active in this case and seeking discovery since the day they were assigned.
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