4 years later, what do we think of the case / verdict now?

[x_files]

They tested Lee.

I recall they tested Lee, and her father and it wasn't a match. But, I'm shocked Casey has no clue to Caylee's father. She must have a clue. Poor child.

 

[jkly]

I recall they tested Lee, and her father and it wasn't a match. But, I'm shocked Casey has no clue to Caylee's father. She must have a clue. Poor child.

She might, but no one else ever will because she lies constantly. Maybe if they test every man who claims to have met her they'll find the father.

Actually, I'm not 100% certain she herself knows either...or cares.

 

[x_files]

She might, but no one else ever will because she lies constantly. Maybe if they test every man who claims to have met her they'll find the father.

Actually, I'm not 100% certain she herself knows either...or cares.

I find that horribly sad for Caylee and her family.

 

[Intermezzo]

I think JA and LDB should have never gone for the DP.

There were so many issues with this trial, I can see now why the jury voted the way they did.

I just hope Casey gets what is coming to her one day.

JMO

The decision to go for the DP was not up to JA or LDB.
The person who had the authority to make that final decision was then State Attorney Lawson Lamar, JA and LDB boss.
And Lawson Lamar did decide to seek the DP.

 

[Intermezzo]

Did they ever figure out whose Caylee's biological father was? They could easily solve it with familial DNA now. I wonder if they ever investigated it thoroughly.

No.
Lee and George were tested.
Jesse G had done his own paternity test after Caylee was born excluding him.

 

[leslievernon]

i watched some programm yesterday reg. the case... i was furious again.

the defense making THE most horrible claims and then... nothing. closing arguments... nothing. what an a-hole.

this child did not walk off alone and somehow buried herself and somehow put the f*ing tape around her head and decide to DIE. really, that pisses me off that NOBODY was held responsible for that. such a cute little girl...

let's say, just for a moment, that you REALLY buy the defense theory... you STILL can get her for just don't giving a damn about the recent loss of her child, as seen by her behaviour, despite everyhting else. but the jury probably thought "hey, it's allright", well, F*CK them, too!

 

[beebosox]

With the same disgust for the prosecution that I felt throughout the trial.

 

[Intermezzo]

There was no drowning . None. It didn't happen. It was a figment of Baez's imagination. Google search for the jail tape wherein her mother says that people are suggesting Caylee drowned in the pool, and Casey clicks her tongue and says the infamous words, "SURPRISE, SURPRISE", without a care in the world.

I agree, no accidental drowning
I seem to remember PI bodyguard Tracy M, in a transcript or interview, mentioning that the pool was briefly discussed during the time FCA was out on bail.
PI Rob Dick stated in an interview that the patio door was difficult to open.
I do remember very late in the pretrial court cases Cheney Mason changing course and looked like the Defense was moving towards drowning.
The photo of Caylee opening the door was added to support the accidental drowning theory, add Cindy's comment in June about someone leaving a gate open and she blamed George, then the defense had to come up with a story to excuse Casey's lack of emotion, and her partying after Caylee disappeared.
They accused George of molestation in opening arguments, brought up an alleged affair but could not bring forth evidence during the trial. The defense tried to bring Jesse G into the molestation story during a break when the jury was sent out of the court room but Judge Perry wouldn't allow it.
The defense came up with stories to contradict the Prosecution.

I could be wrong in my recollection, so if anyone wishes to add anything to my post feel free

 

[AZlawyer]

Did they ever figure out whose Caylee's biological father was? They could easily solve it with familial DNA now. I wonder if they ever investigated it thoroughly.

They tested Lee.

I recall they tested Lee, and her father and it wasn't a match. But, I'm shocked Casey has no clue to Caylee's father. She must have a clue. Poor child.

She might, but no one else ever will because she lies constantly. Maybe if they test every man who claims to have met her they'll find the father.

Actually, I'm not 100% certain she herself knows either...or cares.

No.
Lee and George were tested.
Jesse G had done his own paternity test after Caylee was born excluding him.

Lee and George were tested and excluded. Jesse G was previously excluded. I have also personally seen a paternity test result excluding one other potential father. I don't even have any good candidates in mind anymore.

 

[x_files]

Lee and George were tested and excluded. Jesse G was previously excluded. I have also personally seen a paternity test result excluding one other potential father. I don't even have any good candidates in mind anymore.

and no men were willing to come forth. So bizarre.

 

[jkly]

I used to wonder if maybe Casey used to work as an escort during that big window of time she was pretending she had a job and sending work emails to herself pretending to be her boss.

I seem to recall that search history on one of the computers Casey had access to had evidence of someone googling escort services in California around the time Caylee died. Ashton theorized that Casey was making plans to split before Caylee's birthday aka "go out of state to live with Jeffrey Hopkins and his son Zachary." Maybe she felt that she needed a source of income until she could find the next idiot that she could parasitically latch onto and drain.

Anyway, that could be a reason no one is coming forward. Maybe they have no idea whatsoever and neither does Casey. I can't see her lying to protect someone. She's too selfish. She either didn't know or she didn't want Caylee's biological father. Or...maybe Caylee's biological father didn't want her (Casey.)

Or maybe there's that famed thread of truth that she likes to add in her "she was rufied and gang raped" story and she did sleep with five men in one night (consensually or otherwise, the other possibility is horrific, but it's really really hard to tell since every single story she tells absolves her of all responsibility for anything she may have done wrong.)

My guess is that she doesn't really know who it is or care.

Poor Jesse though. First she drags him into the entire mess by lying to him, then when he finds out Caylee isn't his, he still wants to marry Casey and she breaks up with him a year or two later out of petty jealousy because she feels like he loves Caylee more than her.

 

[Intermezzo]

I used to wonder if maybe Casey used to work as an escort during that big window of time she was pretending she had a job and sending work emails to herself pretending to be her boss.

I seem to recall that search history on one of the computers Casey had access to had evidence of someone googling escort services in California around the time Caylee died. Ashton theorized that Casey was making plans to split before Caylee's birthday aka go out of state to live with Jeffrey Hopkins and his son Zachary. Maybe she felt that she needed a source of income until she could find the next idiot that she could parasitically latch onto and drain.

Anyway, that could be a reason no one is coming forward. Maybe they have no idea whatsoever and neither does Casey.

IIRC
I think it was George or Lee that admitted to googling escort services.
FCA was stealing money and from family and friends, that was her source of income

 

[jkly]

IIRC
I think it was George or Lee that admitted to googling escort services.
FCA was stealing money and from family and friends, that was her source of income

In California? Was one of them planning on going there? While most people google "things to see" when they go on a trip, one of those two was googling escorts? I wonder how Cindy and/or Mallory felt about that little admission.

Anyway, I was doing a search for something else and I happened to find this little tidbit. I can't remember if anyone's posted it or not, but I don't think I've seen it on here yet.

Casey Anthony shuts down her photography business after less than three years

And it appears that Kronk is still suing her.

 

[x_files]

I used to wonder if maybe Casey used to work as an escort during that big window of time she was pretending she had a job and sending work emails to herself pretending to be her boss.

I seem to recall that search history on one of the computers Casey had access to had evidence of someone googling escort services in California around the time Caylee died. Ashton theorized that Casey was making plans to split before Caylee's birthday aka "go out of state to live with Jeffrey Hopkins and his son Zachary." Maybe she felt that she needed a source of income until she could find the next idiot that she could parasitically latch onto and drain.

Anyway, that could be a reason no one is coming forward. Maybe they have no idea whatsoever and neither does Casey. I can't see her lying to protect someone. She's too selfish. She either didn't know or she didn't want Caylee's biological father. Or...maybe Caylee's biological father didn't want her (Casey.)

Or maybe there's that famed thread of truth that she likes to add in her "she was rufied and gang raped" story and she did sleep with five men in one night (consensually or otherwise, the other possibility is horrific, but it's really really hard to tell since every single story she tells absolves her of all responsibility for anything she may have done wrong.)

My guess is that she doesn't really know who it is or care.

Poor Jesse though. First she drags him into the entire mess by lying to him, then when he finds out Caylee isn't his, he still wants to marry Casey and she breaks up with him a year or two later out of petty jealousy because she feels like he loves Caylee more than her.

Such a strange life.
If she was raped wouldn't she have mentioned that to garner sympathy? It would explain her lack of attachment (not an excuse to murder).

 

[jkly]

Such a strange life.
If she was raped wouldn't she have mentioned that to garner sympathy? It would explain her lack of attachment (not an excuse to murder).

Who knows? She's isn't wired right. Cindy sure didn't help by never holding her responsible for anything she's done wrong and lying and covering for her all the time and George didn't help by never taking a stand against Cindy's idea of parenting even though he could see his daughter was out of control.

I don't for a minute believe that George ever touched her though. She didn't start telling that story until George testified against her before a grand jury.

Personally I think Casey had psychopathic tendencies and being spoiled rotten made her even more of a monster.

 

[Intermezzo]

In California? Was one of them planning on going there? While most people google "things to see" when they go on a trip, one of those two was googling escorts? I wonder how Cindy and/or Mallory felt about that little admission.

Anyway, I was doing a search for something else and I happened to find this little tidbit. I can't remember if anyone's posted it or not, but I don't think I've seen it on here yet.

Casey Anthony shuts down her photography business after less than three years

And it appears that Kronk is still suing her.

Here I found a post from 2011. The escort services searches are attributed to George because of what was searched before and after.
It has been difficult finding the threads where these searches were being discussed.

It is about the searches and George and in other posts it's mentioned that its for escort services in Orlando.
I do vaguely remember the discussions about the escort services searches , even during the trial, but not much came of these searchers, they weren't discussed that much and many believed the Defense would use it to help bolster the theory that George was not a good person.

The Roy Kronk Connection- Opening Statements-Kronk takes the stand 2011.06.28

"If Casey had been working as a professional escort we would know about that already. People would have come forward and/or LE would have found evidence on her cell and computer records.

The escort services were looked at on the computer, in between searches for employment as a security guard, and home improvemnent sites. So we can be sure the defense will be bringing those searches up when they lay out their case."

 

[jkly]

Here I found a post from 2011. The escort services searches are attributed to George because of what was searched before and after.
It has been difficult finding the threads where these searches were being discussed.

It is about the searches and George and in other posts it's mentioned that its for escort services in Orlando.
I do vaguely remember the discussions about the escort services searches , even during the trial, but not much came of these searchers, they weren't discussed that much and many believed the Defense would use it to help bolster the theory that George was not a good person.

The Roy Kronk Connection- Opening Statements-Kronk takes the stand 2011.06.28

"If Casey had been working as a professional escort we would know about that already. People would have come forward and/or LE would have found evidence on her cell and computer records.

The escort services were looked at on the computer, in between searches for employment as a security guard, and home improvemnent sites. So we can be sure the defense will be bringing those searches up when they lay out their case."

Okay, thank you so much for clearing that up for me. Like you said, it's difficult finding information about all of this now.

I wonder why the defense didn't bring it up at trial. Did Judge Perry forbid them to use it? As a married man, it makes him look a bit shadier than most of the nonsense they put forth during the trial.

It's actual tangible evidence that impugns George's character (especially with the security job searches and the home improvement sites bookending them) and not just River Cruz's word and Baez insinuating that he can see inside of George's head and the jury believing him.

Unless George had another reason to do the searches that is...Like maybe he thought Casey was working for one of them.

 

[Intermezzo]

Okay, thank you so much for clearing that up for me. Like you said, it's difficult finding information about all of this now.

I wonder why the defense didn't bring it up at trial. Did Judge Perry forbid them to use it? As a married man, it makes him look a bit shadier than most of the nonsense they put forth during the trial.

It's actual tangible evidence that impugns George's character (especially with the security job searches and the home improvement sites bookending them) and not just River Cruz's word and Baez insinuating that he can see inside of George's head and the jury believing him.

Unless George had another reason to do the searches that is...Like maybe he thought Casey was working for one of them.

George may have had other reasons for the escort service searches.
George and Cindy's had marital problems.
They had briefly separated in 2006 after Caylee was born (I think it was George) had filed for divorce. They reconciled in early 2007 I believe. Cindy cites Georges online gambling for the almost divorce. And said FCA's lying and stealing was because of George's example.

The emails from Cindy's mom, Shirley, sheds a light on the family and Cindy's brother Rick came her to Websleuths , there is a thread on this forum but I haven't been able to locate it, yet.

A Candy Rose website is still a wealth of information, It still has all the interviews, transcripts, timelines etc...
caylee_anthony_transcript_R_PleseaEmails.htm

rick also posted on the Orlando Sentinel site before coming to web sleuths which starts at the link below
Casey Anthony denies visit with brother

 

[jkly]

George may have had other reasons for the escort service searches.
George and Cindy's had marital problems.
They had briefly separated in 2006 after Caylee was born (I think it was George) had filed for divorce. They reconciled in early 2007 I believe. Cindy cites Georges online gambling for the almost divorce. And said FCA's lying and stealing was because of George's example.

The emails from Cindy's mom, Shirley, sheds a light on the family and Cindy's brother Rick came her to Websleuths , there is a thread on this forum but I haven't been able to locate it, yet.

A Candy Rose website is still a wealth of information, It still has all the interviews, transcripts, timelines etc...
caylee_anthony_transcript_R_PleseaEmails.htm

rick also posted on the Orlando Sentinel site before coming to web sleuths which starts at the link below
Casey Anthony denies visit with brother

Thank you again.

While it's a shame that her husband and daughter robbed her blind, lol at Cindy trying to take the moral high ground regarding lying. She's just as bad and at times she appears to bully George into doing so when he would have otherwise told the truth. Especially regarding Caylee.

 

[AZlawyer]

Okay, thank you so much for clearing that up for me. Like you said, it's difficult finding information about all of this now.

I wonder why the defense didn't bring it up at trial. Did Judge Perry forbid them to use it? As a married man, it makes him look a bit shadier than most of the nonsense they put forth during the trial.

It's actual tangible evidence that impugns George's character (especially with the security job searches and the home improvement sites bookending them) and not just River Cruz's word and Baez insinuating that he can see inside of George's head and the jury believing him.

Unless George had another reason to do the searches that is...Like maybe he thought Casey was working for one of them.

You can't just bring in whatever evidence you have to impugn a witness's character. There are a limited number of types of things you can raise, and this wouldn't be one of them.