Found Deceased 4 young males, Jevon Hurst, Harvey Owen, Wilf Fitchett, Hugo Morris, traveling in a silver Ford Fiesta,Harlech/Porthmadog,North Wales,19 Nov 2023

[arrogantcat]

I’ve heard there’s a police presser - no questions - at 4:30. Not good.

Oh no. That doesn’t sound good at all.

For reference, this seems to be roughly the area the cordon is blocking off, I think. https://maps.app.goo.gl/Jf6W2jNPqG5dw4bd9?g_st=ic

(edited to update location link)


(Or my map skills might be letting me down!)

 

[Alyce]

Latest update from Wales Online

Heartbroken friends pay tributes to four teenagers found in car

A huge search and rescue operation had been underway in a bid to find four teenage boys missing in Snowdonia, Jevon Hirst, Harvey Owen, Wilf Henderson, and Hugo Morris

www.walesonline.co.uk

"It has been extremely wet and the rivers have been extremely high over the last few days. Obviously, it is November, the weather is bad. It is bad weather to be travelling in, especially with somebody who doesn't know the roads very well."

also ...June Jones, local councillor said ....


Now their car has been found, she ( June Jones , local councillor ) said the "whole area is in complete shock" and "everybody's feelings are very much with the families at this time".

LIVE: North Wales Police confirm four bodies found in search for missing teens

Jevon Hirst, Harvey Owen, Wilf Henderson, and Hugo Morris were last seen on Sunday

www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk

 

[suzyjackson]

I’ve heard there’s a police presser - no questions - at 4:30. Not good.

Is that normal, if no questions why not just issue a statement? It's a little goulish for the press to turn up be told awful news and then go away again imo

 

[JMLx]

Oh no. That doesn’t sound good at all.

For reference, this seems to be roughly the area the cordon is blocking off, I think. Google Maps
It looks reasonably flat, with a small stream running alongside the road. With recent rains that may look a little different, though. (Or my map skills might be letting me down!)

This is the road here, it’s been closed since this morning on Google Maps.

 

[MollyHarps]

Is that normal, if no questions why not just issue a statement? It's a little goulish for the press to turn up be told awful news and then go away again imo

In the UK it seems to have become the norm of how the police operate on the case which have generated media coverage.

 

[naomiuk]

This is the road here, it’s been closed since this morning on Google Maps.

Some very sharp corners

 

[Crumbs]

Oh no. That doesn’t sound good at all.

For reference, this seems to be roughly the area the cordon is blocking off, I think. Google Maps
It looks reasonably flat and open, with a small stream running alongside the road. With recent rains that may look a little different, though.

It’s the kind of road that might seem safe to drive at speed. Given how long the car went unnoticed, there don’t appear to be very many options for where it could have been.


(Or my map skills might be letting me down!)

This is the road closure:

Garreg · Penrhyndeudraeth, UK

Penrhyndeudraeth, UK

www.google.co.uk

 

[MollyHarps]

Police to read statement at 4:30

Been confirmed

50 minutes time for those not in UK

 

[heartandsoul]

That looks a particularly horrible road to be driving on in bad weather.

 

[RichardKimble]

Is that normal, if no questions why not just issue a statement? It's a little goulish for the press to turn up be told awful news and then go away again imo

I guess it could be to let relatives know before the press of any developments, which is how it should be.

 

[Skigh]

Is that normal, if no questions why not just issue a statement? It's a little goulish for the press to turn up be told awful news and then go away again imo

A press conference will make sure everyone receives the same information at the same time ,including the public. I do not think that this is the time for press questions .

 

[WiseOwl]

It has been said that the lads set out on Sunday morning from the Porthmadog area to go camping at Eryri (Snowdonia) National Park.

Garreg (where the car was located) is around 5 miles away. The last time any of their families heard from them was around midday on Sunday - after that nothing.

This suggests that the car went off the road not long after the boys set out that morning. A local person has said that the weather was atrocious on Sunday, which could have contributed to the car leaving the road.

Also, i wonder if they had taken the wrong route to get to the National Park? Looking at Google maps the road to Garreg appears to be going away from that area instead of towards it?

 

[MollyHarps]

I guess it could be to let relatives know before the press of any developments, which is how it should be.

From my experience of this the poor families would have been told many hours ago now.

The gap in time between them being told and now is to allow them chance to tell other family members prior to it being confirmed in media.

I also think waiting until 4:30 was probably also considered to allow the boys school friends to be at home with loved ones when the news broke.

 

[suzyjackson]

I guess it could be to let relatives know before the press of any developments, which is how it should be.

It's not the timing I'm wondering about it's why a physical press conference if no questions are allowed. Of course the families will always be told beforehand but why subject them to a public presser that will no doubt be broadcast when a written statement would suffice and would limit media attention on them. I'm not suggesting they will be there but to me it seems unnecessary

 

[suzyjackson]

A press conference will make sure everyone receives the same information at the same time ,including the public. I do not think that this is the time for press questions .

As would a press release. Maybe I'm in a minority in wondering what is the point of getting the press there for what will be a couple of minutes at most.

 

[Lucy6226]

As would a press release. Maybe I'm in a minority in wondering what is the point of getting the press there for what will be a couple of minutes at most.

Probably because the press are already there on site reporting imo

 

[SusanDonim]

Probably because the press are already there on site reporting imo

St Asaph is over an hour away from the site

 

[suzyjackson]

Probably because the press are already there on site reporting imo

Thank you , that makes most sense

 

[Skigh]

It's not the timing I'm wondering about it's why a physical press conference if no questions are allowed. Of course the families will always be told beforehand but why subject them to a public presser that will no doubt be broadcast when a written statement would suffice and would limit media attention on them. I'm not suggesting they will be there but to me it seems unnecessary

A physical press conference gives news 'straight from the horse's mouth '. It eliminates mis quoting from journalists or anyone not receiving a digital report.

 

[suzyjackson]

A physical press conference gives news 'straight from the horse's mouth '. It eliminates mis quoting from journalists or anyone not receiving a digital report.

Maybe it's different in Wales, my local police force is very active on it's social media with press releases, anyone can see all their public information, facebook is awash with it. I guess it says something about the quality of journalists nowadays if they can't be relied upon to transfer the written word from one place to another accurately without a video of it. Although I suppose a video means they don't even have to do any journalism at all.