5/15/2012--Sentencing

[matou]

In that interview with Rodney and his mom, DG said that Rafferty was at the first candlelight vigil the weekend after Tori went missing. I didn't know that.

Can you link us to the interview? I need to see that, that's just sick. TIA

 

[brighidin]

CANADIAN COMMON SENSE: TRULY A LIFE SENTENCE?

Charles Adler looks at the recent sentencing of convicted murderer Michael Rafferty, and the unfortunate reality of life sentences in Canada. Also watch the other video to follow this one. Interview with Rodney and "Nana" DG.

http://www.sunnewsnetwork.ca/video/...mon-sense-truly-a-life-sentence/1643010316001

Can you link us to the interview? I need to see that, that's just sick. TIA

I think its from this link.

ETA: I agree: very sick. But not surprising knowing what we do about the .

 

[brighidin]

???? Don't know what that is. sorry

Well I guess everybody has his own opinion and that is a good thing. You like Adler I am not. That's like about the DP.
I will not say anything about it anymore and will just think my part. That's it.

I don't like Charles Adler either.
I can't read anything by Christie Blatchford either. I just don't click on their links.

If you go to the main forum page
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/
and scroll all the way down, you will get tot he private forums section. Only people registered and logged in can read and post in them. I'm pretty sure there is a thread about the DP in one of the forums - maybe the political one. Hope that helps!

 

[brighidin]

"The attorney general’s office confirmed Tuesday it will seek a retrial or to have the Court of Appeal find Michelle Liard guilty. Firgan-Hewie’s slashed and stabbed body was found in a garbage bag behind the home of Liard’s former fiancé, Rafal LaSota, in December 2008.

Snipped by me. I do recall reading a few articles in the Star about her trial. I wasn't up on all aspects of the case but I can't believe she got off and I'm glad it is being appealed.

 

[matou]

Brigidhin and all who were asking: here is the source of the info for MR being at the first candlelight vigil. At 7:00 in by Doreen Graichen, Tori's grandmother, she states this.

Question: Did he go alone? Who was with him? Why was this not brought up in testimony? How dare he? How dare he antagonize Tori's mother after witnessing her distress and pain. THAT . He can burn in hell forever. JMO

http://www.sunnewsnetwork.ca/video/...y-a-life-sentence/1643010316001#1643010314001

The link is in the side and is called "TORI'S FAMILY SPEAKS"

 

[Kittymama]

The previous video wasn't linked to. The interview with Rodney and his Mother was. It doesn't make sense to banish him from Tori's forum because you decided to go look around for other videos on his site.

Have you asked a mod about a thread in the parking lot?

I think she means the beginning of the video with Rodney and his mom. Charles Adler is talking about the DP. Then there's an advertisement, and then Rodney and DG are on.

How did DG know that Rafferty was at the vigil, I wonder?

What's TLM's mental disorder?

 

[nettie_82]

I think she means the beginning of the video with Rodney and his mom. Charles Adler is talking about the DP. Then there's an advertisement, and then Rodney and DG are on.

How did DG know that Rafferty was at the vigil, I wonder?

What's TLM's mental disorder?

It has been reported she is bipolar. I just read that in a newspaper the other day, don't have time right now to get the link.

 

[Flowercb]

It looks like half of a murderous Ontario couple is trying to get away with murder. The victim was 13 years old, lured by a woman and given to a pedophile, viciously stabbed and beaten. The injuries were inflicted while both parties were at the same residence and she washed blood out of his clothes after the murder. Should she be found not guilty? She has been ... this is a cause worth paying attention to ... follow the prosecution's case and act on the victim's sake. Make sure that this woman, violent like McClintic, is not free like Homolka.

One thing that could be proactively done in relation to the murder of Victoria Stafford is to quickly identify and stop similar couples ... see both parties fully prosecuted ... no more Karla Homolka women sneaking off and getting away with murder.

http://www.thestar.com/news/crime/a...n-to-jury-in-defence-lawyer-s-closing-remarks

I totally missed this case and I live close by. Was there are thread on websleuths on this case?

 

[Kittymama]

Another thing I found randomly interesting:

On the FA thread, it said Tara's birthday was Oct. 27. I'm sure that I read somewhere that Rafferty's birthday was Oct. 26. I remember the date because when I was a teenager, my dog was killed (by a big dog) on Oct. 26, so I read his birthdate and thought, "Hmmm, not a good day all around."

Just noticed it. I know it's meaningless, but I still found it interesting.

 

[Kittymama]

Brigidhin and all who were asking: here is the source of the info for MR being at the first candlelight vigil. At 7:00 in by Doreen Graichen, Tori's grandmother, she states this.

Question: Did he go alone? Who was with him? Why was this not brought up in testimony? How dare he? How dare he antagonize Tori's mother after witnessing her distress and pain. THAT . He can burn in hell forever. JMO

http://www.sunnewsnetwork.ca/video/...y-a-life-sentence/1643010316001#1643010314001

The link is in the side and is called "TORI'S FAMILY SPEAKS"

Thanks, Matou. I wish we could find pics of the vigil now. I have no idea where to look, or even if there are any pictures anywhere.

 

[crazyladi]

ummm I must have missed something or I dont watch enough of Charles Adler.

I actually like that interview that he had with RS and DG. Rodney was allowed to speak his mind and tell everyone what he though and he has that right. He held back what he really really wanted to say.

I am not a debater and I am not for or against the DP however there has to be more done when it actually comes to people like MR.

Maybe this is Canada's wake up call for people like him. Something needs to change and people like MR, PB and RW shouldnt be able to even enjoy the luxury of their 4x2ft room. You cant rehabilitate these vile monsters.

In my opinion I would make them go crazy. They get nothing, no 1hr a day in the sun, no showers, same food day in and day out, nothing at all in their cell but a rickety hard bed and like I said before a can to piss in. Make them go crazy.

If they are not going to give the DP then they should suffer as much as possible. These people should have no rights whatsoever. Boo hoo for them.

Canada needs to step up and stop giving these monsters anything. Maybe they will take their own life if they go crazy enough. JMO of course.

 

[maxfactor]

Thanks, Matou. I wish we could find pics of the vigil now. I have no idea where to look, or even if there are any pictures anywhere.

I am pretty sure actually that it was a video from the vigil, we just kept pausing to see if it was him, he was fairly close to TM if I remember rightly. I am not sure if we can access those old threads but when I get home from work I will try to find it.

 

[matou]

I am pretty sure actually that it was a video from the vigil, we just kept pausing to see if it was him, he was fairly close to TM if I remember rightly. I am not sure if we can access those old threads but when I get home from work I will try to find it.

Maybe we can find it in the Woodstock Sentinel Review videos that are posted on Youtube. I'll try later on. xo

 

[Kamille]

There is a picture of the vigil at this link but it's impossible to pick out faces in the crowd towards the back...

http://www.globalnews.ca/timeline/6442589956/story.html

Actually that whole timeline is very well done and I'm not sure if it was posted or not.

 

[Flowercb]

Watch this interogation video (bottom of page). Do you think this girl is innocent or guilty? This is the case of the Mississauga, Ontario murder that Otto mentioned.

http://www.globaltoronto.com/timeline+the+aleksandra+firgan-hewie+murder/6442613286/story.html

 

[CarrieBean]

This video shows a couple of shots from the vigil.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnXSWnf8M6Y&list=UUsUI9bdpKYcM8HsJozLQH5g&index=105&feature=plcp"]Hundreds gather for vigil - YouTube[/ame]

Then there is this photo

 

[maxfactor]

Maybe we can find it in the Woodstock Sentinel Review videos that are posted on Youtube. I'll try later on. xo

Do you remember that Matou? I don't think it was the night time vigil though, I seem to remember TM and her Dad being at a podium and we found him there, maybe it was the motorcycle ride?? It's going to drive me nuts till I find it now!!

Now that I look at the video posted above I think it was that vigil. If we could find the whole video from that night we could see him.

 

[Maple1]

Banardo, The Scarborough rapist

Link
http://www.skcentral.com/downloads/ebooks/scarboroughrapist.pdf

By author*
G Michael Wass

Banardo early years and especially his relationship with parents.
He followed the case from the first known police reported victim.
Interesting read because he follows what happened with each victim. How they were treated by LE. The investigation. How evidence was collected. The early days of DNA testing. The start of the (not sure of wording) super lab in Ontario that handled the testing. Misscommunication in verbal and paper trail by LE and lab as to when DNA testing was done. The FBI profiling involvement. Post survivor follow up.
I had no idea as to the level of depravity that IMO Banardo lived out. Totally off the scales. The most heart wrenching stuff I have ever read.

IMO, MR was also just getting started. His date rape in London On in January 2009 was taking baby Banardo victimization steps. Was this his first date rape. Probably not.

 

[Maple1]

Does anyone have a link to LTM statement, video with Det. Smythe that was not edited for press. The jury saw something approximately 1 hour long.
Is this out there after the pub ban lifting for MR?

Found this transcript link but it is heavily edited (blacked out)

http://www.am980.ca/Other/McClinticVideoTranscript.pdf

 

[Maple1]

ok then let's open another thread for this if possible.
If not then I don't wanna see any horrible interview with this Charles whatever his last name is anymore either.
This is such an important matter that it shouldn't be just whispered under the table.
We either can speak about it loud (BOTH SIDES) or not at all.

MOO

Sorry I am about a week behind due to massive OT at work.
Have been catching up in bits.