A scenario I was thinking about...

[Ames]

She didn't sound like a child on the 911 call.

No, she didn't. She sounded like a darn good actress, which is why SHE and not John made that 911 call.

 

[Ames]

No matter how one tries to spin it the intruder simply never existed.

I saw an arial view of the Ramsey's neighborhood...someone posted it on FFJ, and it could probably be viewed using Google Earth...and I was AMAZED at how close those houses were. When I first saw the Ramsey's home on the news back in 96, I figured that it had a couple of acres...I was WRONG. The houses there are thisclose...there is no way that anybody could see how close those houses are, and think that there was an intruder.

 

[weasel]

Having not seen the aerial view, I wonder .... wasn't there an alley way behind the house?

 

[Tricia]

well yes of course patsy had to have SOMETHING to do with it..
Its time for you RDIers to give up, realize you were wrong and back off, dont make
fools of yourselves any longer.

Keriekerie, you are thisclose to being banned. Don't EVER tell anyone on WS how they should be or think.

How 'bout you tell me what hat you have posted under in the past?

I get really tired of Ramsey supporters showing up using new hats because they are not brave enough to give us their real hat.

 

[Tricia]

Thanks for the feedback. I will crawl back in my hole now.

Warsaw, I appreciate your theory. I don't agree with it but I appreciate the fact you brought it to WS in a polite manner.

Please understand that many of us have been on this case for so long and we know the facts inside-out that we may seem a bit hard hearted. It's not really the case though. I promise.

As long as people are polite we will be polite back...right kids???

loveya,
Mom.

 

[trixie]

Right Mom!:blowkiss:
So Warsaw, what do you make of these new developments? Is your head about ready to explode like mine?

 

[RoseRed]

I have read a lot about this case but on a Topix forum. I have never believed the Ramsey's killed JB. I think it was made to look like they did on purpose.

 

[Toltec]

I have read a lot about this case but on a Topix forum. I have never believed the Ramsey's killed JB. I think it was made to look like they did on purpose.

The murder of little JonBenet was not done on purpose. Patsy was stressed out...stretched to the limit when she reacted to JonBenet's tantrum. She picked up the first thing she found and hit her over the head....something she immediately regretted doing and she could not take back. She automatically went into self-preservation mode and then you have this staged crime. Simple as that.

 

[CharlieBrown]

Right Mom!:blowkiss:
So Warsaw, what do you make of these new developments? Is your head about ready to explode like mine?

I'm happy to know that people are still working on this case. I hope their efforts pay off and the truth comes out eventually.

Something about this case has always creeped me out. When I read about it late at night, on this forum and elsewhere, I get that creepy feeling that I am being watched. Does this happen to anyone else? It seems to only happen when I read about this case, and I'm not sure why.

 

[BBB167893]

Sometimes I wonder if that lawyer Lin Wood is lurking about, looking for ways to nail Tricia, or me.

Let him come. Play with fire, you get burned.

 

[CharlieBrown]

He is watching you SuperDave!!!

 

[BBB167893]

Then he can watch me flip him the bird! :crazy:

 

[JMO8778]

I'm happy to know that people are still working on this case. I hope their efforts pay off and the truth comes out eventually.

Something about this case has always creeped me out. When I read about it late at night, on this forum and elsewhere, I get that creepy feeling that I am being watched. Does this happen to anyone else? It seems to only happen when I read about this case, and I'm not sure why.

..I got the feeling that our posts,esp.the RDI's,were being read closely,and when not many ppl bought the dna excuse when it was fished for again in the stocked pond,the RST once again came up with another plan..dna again,only 'supposedly' better this time.How many times can they try to rebuild the Bionic man? 'we can rebuild him...we can make him better than before...'. It just gets old.
(pls tell me someone remembers that show.I'm feeling old now...).

 

[Ruflossn]

I'm happy to know that people are still working on this case. I hope their efforts pay off and the truth comes out eventually.

Something about this case has always creeped me out. When I read about it late at night, on this forum and elsewhere, I get that creepy feeling that I am being watched. Does this happen to anyone else? It seems to only happen when I read about this case, and I'm not sure why.

Warsaw~
There is a case that I have been studying: The Girl Scout Murders in Oklahoma. I get a totally creeped out feeling when I am reading and studying about it. I have never gotten that feeling when I am reading about any other case. I can not figure out why it happens, all I know is that it does happen. I feel like I too am being "watched".
Sorry to go off post for a moment. I just couldn't help responding to Warsaw's post. For the record, I have read about the JBR case for years. WS posters are incredibly up to date and vocal about their convictions. I love it.

Again, sorry for going off topic~ Carry On~

 

[Grainne Dhu]

Let's suppose that an intruder did indeed kill JonBenet. Patsy is awoken by a noise and checks JB's room to discover that she is missing. She frantically searches the house, and discovers JB's body. Upon discovering the body, she suffers a breakdown and enters a fugue state, or a break with reality. She wraps JB in her favorite blanket, places her body in the wine cellar {out of sight, out of mind), and in her mind creates a reality in which JB is still alive. She writes the ransom note as a way to give credibility to this alternate reality that she has imagined. All the while telling herself that JB isn't really dead, it's all just a bad dream. At this point, Patsy is like a child who has closed his/her eyes to reality and wished a bad situation away. Whether or not she realizes later what she has done, who knows?

Feedback appreciated!

I'm not sure. It's possible, perhaps.

It's close to something I've wondered about: what if Patsy and John Ramsey initially suspected each other and independently took steps to try to cover for the other? What if each of them took action that they thought would help cover for the other (say, Patsy writes the ransom note) but neither of them knew the other was doing so?

Later, when they've had a chance to process, calm down, speak privately to each other, they become convinced of the other's innocence. Now they're left with quite a dilemma: they've both taken action that confused the evidence and could be interpreted as obstruction of justice. They've got a nine year old son who will need both parents to help him deal with this tragedy.

And they're also now really, really paranoid: they know neither of them did it, so who did it? That wondering, that unanswered question eventually erodes many of their friendships.

 

[BBB167893]

It's close to something I've wondered about: what if Patsy and John Ramsey initially suspected each other and independently took steps to try to cover for the other? What if each of them took action that they thought would help cover for the other (say, Patsy writes the ransom note) but neither of them knew the other was doing so?

Later, when they've had a chance to process, calm down, speak privately to each other, they become convinced of the other's innocence. Now they're left with quite a dilemma: they've both taken action that confused the evidence and could be interpreted as obstruction of justice. They've got a nine year old son who will need both parents to help him deal with this tragedy.

And they're also now really, really paranoid: they know neither of them did it, so who did it? That wondering, that unanswered question eventually erodes many of their friendships.

An interesting idea. But it still leaves them guilty of minor crimes, so they're still in the vice.

 

[Levi]

Hello! I'm not as well read as everyone here, but I thought I would throw this out there for your consideration. Sorry if it has already been discussed and I missed it.

Let's suppose that an intruder did indeed kill JonBenet. Patsy is awoken by a noise and checks JB's room to discover that she is missing. She frantically searches the house, and discovers JB's body. Upon discovering the body, she suffers a breakdown and enters a fugue state, or a break with reality. She wraps JB in her favorite blanket, places her body in the wine cellar {out of sight, out of mind), and in her mind creates a reality in which JB is still alive. She writes the ransom note as a way to give credibility to this alternate reality that she has imagined. All the while telling herself that JB isn't really dead, it's all just a bad dream. At this point, Patsy is like a child who has closed his/her eyes to reality and wished a bad situation away. Whether or not she realizes later what she has done, who knows?

Feedback appreciated!

I would think that if that were the case, that Patsy would have to have been mentally ill. Does anyone know if she had any mental illness in the past? I've never heard that reported.

 

[Levi]

I'm not sure. It's possible, perhaps.

It's close to something I've wondered about: what if Patsy and John Ramsey initially suspected each other and independently took steps to try to cover for the other? What if each of them took action that they thought would help cover for the other (say, Patsy writes the ransom note) but neither of them knew the other was doing so?

Later, when they've had a chance to process, calm down, speak privately to each other, they become convinced of the other's innocence. Now they're left with quite a dilemma: they've both taken action that confused the evidence and could be interpreted as obstruction of justice. They've got a nine year old son who will need both parents to help him deal with this tragedy.

And they're also now really, really paranoid: they know neither of them did it, so who did it? That wondering, that unanswered question eventually erodes many of their friendships.

Interesting theory, but I don't think so. She finds her daughter dead and AUTOMATICALLY suspects her husband The first thing that happens when one finds someone murdered, I suspect would be SHOCK, not pointing the finger and being suspicious unless in domestic violence cases where there was a history of the victim being abused by their spouse/lover.

I think she would have had to have reason to believe he would murder her in the past...

 

[LI_Mom]

I would think that if that were the case, that Patsy would have to have been mentally ill. Does anyone know if she had any mental illness in the past? I've never heard that reported.

Considering her history with cancer & all the strong drugs she took, it doesn't seem far fetched to believe she had psychological 'drama' in her recent past.

Didn't she do a lot of reading in the 'self help' category also? It's clear she was trying to cope with major life changing issues.

 

[BBB167893]

I would think that if that were the case, that Patsy would have to have been mentally ill. Does anyone know if she had any mental illness in the past? I've never heard that reported.

I don't think anyone, police-related or not, ever held her head up to the light, as my dad would put it. Rusty Morris, did, but it was a third-hand diagnosis, so I don't put much stock in it.

Considering her history with cancer & all the strong drugs she took, it doesn't seem far fetched to believe she had psychological 'drama' in her recent past.

It turned my dad into an emotional wreck. It's not that far-fetched that with all of her medicine, stress and whatnot that she had slipped into a deranged state.

"Her lawyers might say that because of her cancer a few years ago and all the drugs she'd been taking, her thinking was altered to an insane state,"-- former Denver Chief Prosecutor Craig Silverman