a view from the inside: observations from our own court observers #5

[~*~PinxJinx~*~]

I've not ever been worried about her. Honestly I found myself nodding in agreement myself with LaViolette as much of what she said resonated with me. I can see her nodding in agreement in terms of maybe relating to things in her own life. Esp as she's not at all yet really connected the dots to this crime, unless of course you are doing a checklist of JODI'S behavior she's detailing. So no that doesn't worry me at all.

Exactly! She has been very thoroughly informative in her primer about abuse in all of it's many variations and I'm sure that anyone on the jury that has been conscious for this lecture may well have recognized some of the signs she's talking about in one of their own past relationships or one involving a family member or friend. It would be understandable that one would be interested in what she is saying about the dynamics of such relationships, especially if one has limited knowledge of them. But these poor people are bored out of their beans!! I feel soooo sorry for them!! The only reason that this lonnnnnnng testimony has ANY relativity to this case is because JA was an obsessed, abusive, stalker!! I don't think she likes the light the testimony of AV has cast her in so far??!! :lol:

 

[antiqueannie]

Mayhap the jury will find her guilty out of spitefullness/frustration-jk, kinda.
I read somewhere-or maybe saw a video-of the food provided to Sheriff Joe's prisoners. After reading what Jodi ate on her murderous trip, I laugh at the thought of her gagging down a baloney sandwich. I don't think she's gonna get Mickey D chow in Joe's jail. And do we really know (like we did w/CA) what she gets from the commissary? And if she really has money in her account. Just because her family's selling her "art work", that doesn't mean she's seeing any of it. Undoubtedly, there's other expenses-who's running their restaurant while their gone? Who's paying for JA's clothes? Her family has similiar expenses to the Alexanders.
No tomato tossing, please. I do believe she's guilty, should get the DP, but I don't ever count on a jury doing what I think they should do. The voice of experience here.
I have the utmost admiration for Travis' family, they have class. Yet I have empathy for JA's mother...I wish I could just jump in my car and be there!
Thanks to all our court watchers. Hugs and prayers to all-especially Alfonse.

 

[Meemaw12]

Many thanks to the court observers, you help me deal with the insanity of this trial.

 

[Renee110]

YES KCL that's him!! He told me he's a self-defense expert, and he was surprised the DT didn't call him...? I didn't quite know what to make of that.

Anyway, I can report that, as LV sat on the stand and waited for the jury to enter, and even occasionally during sidebars, she would look over at him. He said to me, more than once, she was looking for his support because she was so scared to be testifying.

He also told me...and forgive me, because I don't remember the exact wording...that she told him things would get crazy, or something to that affect, when she was able to give all of her testimony. I took it to mean that she thought people might change their minds about the case after hearing her testimony...IMO. :twocents:

BBM

This scares me.

 

[katydid23]

Here's three per HuffPo:

Did she tell you she bought a gun to kill herself?
"No," Samuels said.

Did she tell you she planned to kill herself with a razor in jail?
"No," Samuels replied.

(And my personal favorite)

What is the difference between covering up and alternative reality?
Samuels said the defensive mechanism allows the individual to avoid dealing with the worst part of the trauma they experienced.

BBm

Samuels also said that 'covering up' is a conscious choice but the defense mechanism is a subconscious reaction. And that is pretty funny considering she called Travis after he was dead, and she kept listening to her message and deleting it, and doing it over, to make it sound 'natural.' That hardly sounds like
a subconscious reaction, imo.

 

[marciec]

I'm headed up to the courthouse in like 10 min but wanted to pop on and make a post and get it out of my head before I go.

I just want to say that all of my posts are MY perceptions, whether they are grounded in subjectivity or literally what I'm seeing, they are all sent through my filter. Whether i'm posting about what I believe will be the outcome of this case, JA's Mom or the jury, it is all my opinion based on all my past experiences and my ability to report things accurately as I see them.

Now as I held a job for 7 years which was literally observing human behavior and documenting it (psych RN) I have some skills at being able to do that. As I've sat in a court room through two DP trials/sentencing hearings/appeals, that lends some experience to what I'm doing.

But I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything. Some of my opinions are very well founded in reason and some are more hunches. You can take ALL of it with a grain of salt. It's not my job to keep supporting what I see but share it.

I know there is quite a bit of PTSD associated with this trial and lots of people are getting triggered. All the way back to OJ. I get it. I also know quite a bit about PTSD having recovered from it myself and if you don't believe me, check out the charitable organization I founded that deals almost primarily with PTSD: www.inonepeaceproject.org

My testimonial is on there so I do know some of what I speak.

this trial isn't triggering me toward FEAR though I can say that. No one can talk anyone out of their fear. I know this directly having just sat in a hospital room with a paranoid schizophrenic for the last 2 weeks. No amt of rationality dispels irrational fear. It's deeper than that.

So what I do and what I call it is "holding the high watch". I have an unshakable belief in the JUSTICE that is coming in this case. I am unshakable in my perception that Jodi Arias will be convicted of first degre murder and sentenced to death. I feel like that is my biggest "secret weapon" I bring in to that courtroom is that unshakable confidence.

I think all of this is an opportunity for people to heal. I cried off and on all last night..of course this case ignites my grieving...this is a good thing. It excavates all those pockets of pain that remain hidden and brings them to the light then as my teacher says "without awareness there is no choice" we can choose what to do with them.

I invite all of you who can to try on an attitude of confidence and ask yourself "does preparing myself for the worst make me a better advocate for the best in this present moment? Will I actually handle 'the worst' if I'm prepared for it or will it be just as devastating? What have I got to lose by believing in another option?". Not just for this case but for anything in my life that is limiting me, including a limiting belief system.

With that said, Justice for Travis is coming. And I'm walking in to court once again holding that torch out and proud and bright.

Do I hear an AMEN!??? Rested and ready to go............:seeya:

Preach it, girl! Somebody TESTIFY!!!
Thank you for being such a positive force for good, despite our collective cynicism. The CA outcome caused me personally to question so many things with regard to our culture and the belief that most people 'get it', and will do the right thing.
JA conviction & death sentence will be felt on so many levels, by so so many people.

 

[marciec]

I'm pretty sure the jail food sucks. No doubt in my mind that she also has high anxiety now that she's being brought to justice. Crappy food + anxiety can equal weight loss.

She better be careful or Sheriff Joe will put her on the nutriloaf.
Mmmmm mmmm good!

 

[thefragile7393]

EVERYONE is saying that Skip! It's awesome. I can't wait to see that cross...he's gonna flip her like a teflon coated pancake in a teflon pan with a teflon flipper. :rocker:

*giggle

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[marciec]

Omg, JVM....Jodi is pulling some "stuff" alright. Complaints about Juan and pic taking with fans. Wow, what babies to complain.

JVM - I can't watch her anymore. Over the top dramatic way she says anything & everything; blows minutia up into something huge. IMO, she absolutely is exploiting Travis' death for her own ratings..not that HLN in general isn't doing that, but she more than the others insults my intelligence. An example of the 'dumbing down' of our culture more & more all the time.
Her recent visit to a gun range; telling viewers "be assured, the gun is NOT loaded, I repeat, this gun is NOT loaded!!!"
Pretty sure no one's wringing their hands as you're at a GUN RANGE.
Then visiting a medical examiner to dramatically re-enact the knife wound to TA's neck...I hoped Travis' family wasn't seeing this.
Needless rhetoric & hyperbole. One minute sounding all sorrowful about Travis, and the next she's using that growl-voice to uncover some never-b4-seen new thing about JA...awful!!!

 

[wasnt_me]

I was thinking along the same lines, that the entire jury should ALL have their chairs screwed down as low as they go.

And that Ghamdom style song should play.

 

[marciec]

"Notgettingenoughattentionyesterdayitis". I think she's punishing her DT and LaViolette in her stellar passive aggressive way for not having her name uttered in court yesterday.

Right?!?! Yes!! That is spot on! She looked SOOO agitated yesterday, and occasionally just bored. But you nailed it! 'This is MY trial dang it, and SOMEbody better remember that. This IS about me!'
(PS; this morning she did NOT look like someone with a migraine..no way.)

 

[Flowerrgirl]

Many thanks to the court observers, you help me deal with the insanity of this trial.

Agree.

The Internet feed is delayed. HLN begins each day with live coverage. This goes into "pause" mode. The internet feed is still delayed, but ahead of the tv, but behind at first and then more behind later. Then the tv is behind the live internet; the Internet ends for the day, and the tv is still covering "live" in the courtroom.

Reading here helps to balance it all out.

 

[wasnt_me]

Hearing on another website that either Mama Arias or the aunt is wearing some kind of blue ribbon. Speculation is that it's one of the Travis ribbons, or appears to be, and people are wondering if she's switched sides or is MOCKING Travis' family. Anyone know for sure?

I don't know but my answer would be that she loves her daughter, but she is sorry for Travis' family. Supporting her daughter doesn't mean thinking her daughter is right or justified. Jodi is her trial. I wish they'd make ribbons for her poor mother, who has to continue to be Jodi's mother no matter if her child committed a heinous crime.

 

[marciec]

"Bring the dog, I love animals... I'm a great cook."......."

OMG, I never put that together! She said it when she invited Dan over for spaghetti & opera music, but I NEVER made THAT connection - loving animals & being a great cook! Yikes!! LOL!

 

[marciec]

KatieDDj was a bit giggly tonight on DD...thought about this long lunch!

Hope that your brother is doing much, much better and that he's back on track soon.

Please give Travis's family our love and comfort. These past two days must have been very hard for them. I can picture Travis looking over them with love and trying to find a way to make them laugh and wipe their tears away. His love will be with them always, as will theirs for him. Nothing can take that away. Family forever.

LOL, I thought the same exact thing! Ha! Here's to long, leisurely lunches!

 

[marciec]

KatieDDJ told me she'd seen one of them slam an exit door on his way out of the courthouse or something? I can imagine this does NOT make them happy.

Just curious..
- What happens if/when a juror makes his frustration known to the judge?
- Are they permitted to do that?
- Does an angry jury tend to light a fire under the attorney's that are obviously responsible for holding things up?

 

[loveamystery]

I'm starting to think they were wearing purple ribbons as survivors of JAs domestic abuse in their home. And it wouldn't surprise me in the least if it turns out that they are there in court as the much more fortunate victims of JA than TA.

:waitasec: Don't the twins have a third sister who is there everyday?

 

[runningwater]

This happened at the end of court yesterday. It wasn't anything that caught my attention, or anyone around me. Saw the youtube video, too, but don't really know what to make of it.

She certainly isn't all smiles and giggles and whispers when she talks to Nurmi like she is when she talks to Willmott

Can you point me to the you tube video of this?
Thanks

 

[loveamystery]

It would be even more appropriate if they were ALL from the "1000 Places To See Before You Die" book!!

I think she'd like that too much. Send her postcards from places not in the book.

 

[salberg7]

I'm thinking JA is realizing that her own defense witness is inadvertently describing JA's behavior, & not TA. I'll bet she has a migrane, the truth hurts! It is certainly divine justice as her witness is ending up sounding like bolstering JM's case. I agree with the comment above regarding JA not getting enough attention, too. I do question how well thought out this defense tactic was, & wonder if it was JA's decision to use ALV or JW/KN's. Not very well thought out. Hope JA can't appeal on grounds of ineffective counsel, because this witness is backfiring. I also seem to feel that ALV may regret her decision to testify for the DT, but that was her decision & she will need to cope with it. On another note, JW needs to stay professional, she is looking alittle silly IMO. It also aggravates me to think about the money it costs AZ taxpayers when our little psychopath decides she can't deal with reality. To think this is the same woman who drove 3,000 miles in 3 days, give me a break! Accountability time for the murderess, liar, stalker, dog kicker...