A year since Haleigh vanished (psych profiles of those who surrounded Haleigh)

[Boots-OK]

Why was GGS raising Ron and his sister from such a young age? Does anyone know?

 

[lonetraveler]

The two became a couple but the relationship was rocky on the Monday night that Haleigh went missing. Croslin spent the weekend partying, although she was home by the time Cummings went to work Monday evening. But Cummings was angry and repeatedly called her brother that night, demanding to know where she was when he couldn't get her on the phone.



I wonder how the reporter found this out?

So, if Misty was home by the time Cummings went to work Monday evening, what happens to the story of Ron and Misty taking Haleigh to get her favorite outfit at GMS and Misty walking her into the school that Monday morning and then returning home to lay around sleeping until time to pick Haleigh up at the bus stop????? :waitasec:

 

[lonetraveler]

Why was GGS raising Ron and his sister from such a young age? Does anyone know?

I suspect that TN has a few skeletons in her closet too.

 

[debs]

It sure does sound like Grandmom is attributing Ron's bad behavior to living with his mother (intentionally or not).

Anger and a sense of remoteness had marked Cummings for years, said his grandmother Annette Sykes, who reared him and his sister until Sykes' husband became debilitated by Alzheimer's. Annette and Kirby Sykes had guardianship of the two children beginning when Ronald was 3. He moved out as his grandfather became increasingly ill and was back with his mother, Teresa Neves, in Sumter County by the time he was a young teenager.

After Cummings graduated from high school in Leesburg, he and his girlfriend moved back to Putnam County. They went to his grandparents in Welaka, where his girlfriend became pregnant, but Cummings had changed, his grandmother said.

"He just had a dirty mouth," she said. "He was very disrespectful."

http://jacksonville.com/news/metro/...gs_vanished_ronald_and_misty_lost_their_way_l

Well, Haleigh was born in 2005. Ron just turned 26. I'm just asking.....is this to imply that Ron was 21 when he graduated high school?

 

[Boots-OK]

I suspect that TN has a few skeletons in her closet too.

Well, lone, I suspect you are correct.

I knew that Ron had lived with GGS off and on - but, I had no idea that she had guardianship of him and his sister from the age of 3.

The psych profile of some of the players is becoming a little clearer to me now.

 

[LFlorida]

Well, Haleigh was born in 2005. Ron just turned 26. I'm just asking.....is this to imply that Ron was 21 when he graduated high school?

Nah - I'm sure he was werkin' on that degree in computer science [or whatever Teresa claimed.] Although your math does werk much better than hers.

But y'all have to admit - they managed to confound us as a group for almost a year. Apparently, they really pulled the wool over a significant number of w/s'ers eyes for a very long time. I sure would appreciate hearing something - anything! - from them.

 

[Pastalover]

Well, Haleigh was born in 2005. Ron just turned 26. I'm just asking.....is this to imply that Ron was 21 when he graduated high school?

:waitasec::waitasec::waitasec:

 

[raisincharlie]

It sure does sound like Grandmom is attributing Ron's bad behavior to living with his mother (intentionally or not).

Anger and a sense of remoteness had marked Cummings for years, said his grandmother Annette Sykes, who reared him and his sister until Sykes' husband became debilitated by Alzheimer's. Annette and Kirby Sykes had guardianship of the two children beginning when Ronald was 3. He moved out as his grandfather became increasingly ill and was back with his mother, Teresa Neves, in Sumter County by the time he was a young teenager.

After Cummings graduated from high school in Leesburg, he and his girlfriend moved back to Putnam County. They went to his grandparents in Welaka, where his girlfriend became pregnant, but Cummings had changed, his grandmother said.

"He just had a dirty mouth," she said. "He was very disrespectful."

http://jacksonville.com/news/metro/...gs_vanished_ronald_and_misty_lost_their_way_l

I'm still speechless that any of the Cummings side actually had a bad word to say about Ron...that's a first in this case. :crazy: Denial has been the name of the game for so long.

 

[Kimster]

<snipped> Our findings provide new evidence that custodial grandchildren of both genders are at greater risk of psychological difficulties than children in the general population

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2083282/

From what I've seen in blended families and in children raised by grandparents, when they are bounced back and forth to their parents, the risk of negative behavior is much higher. Kids associate themselves with their parents. If the parents can't or don't want to raise them, they feel something is wrong with them. It takes extra effort and sacrifice in a blended family or by grandparents to raise children.

RC's tat is VERY telling to me. It doesn't say "mom", it says "Teresa".

 

[LFlorida]

I'm still speechless that any of the Cummings side actually had a bad word to say about Ron...that's a first in this case. :crazy: Denial has been the name of the game for so long.

Aww, c'mon Charlie. The name of the game has always been CYOA (Your Own), and sometimes that meant covering Ron's [and Misty's], too.

It's always been

Deny
Deflect
Defend
Denigrate
De-etc...

 

[debs]

<snipped> Our findings provide new evidence that custodial grandchildren of both genders are at greater risk of psychological difficulties than children in the general population

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2083282/

From what I've seen in blended families and in children raised by grandparents, when they are bounced back and forth to their parents, the risk of negative behavior is much higher. Kids associate themselves with their parents. If the parents can't or don't want to raise them, they feel something is wrong with them. It takes extra effort and sacrifice in a blended family or by grandparents to raise children.

RC's tat is VERY telling to me. It doesn't say "mom", it says "Teresa".

ronald wasn't bounced back and forth: he went to his grandmom at 3 and then went to his mom as a teen. the only bouncing here is how the parent wanted to justify why she wasn't there from 3 to 16.

 

[Kimster]

ronald wasn't bounced back and forth: he went to his grandmom at 3 and then went to his mom as a teen. the only bouncing here is how the parent wanted to justify why she wasn't there from 3 to 16.

Starting out in the home with your parents, moving to your grandparents, and then back to parents is bouncing to me. And I wonder when his dad was there and wasn't? There still are a lot of questions.

A stable environment is best for kids. To know that your parent or primary caregiver is always there is invaluable. It can't always happen, and that is why I made sure I inserted the fact that it takes an extra sacrifice.

 

[debs]

Starting out in the home with your parents, moving to your grandparents, and then back to parents is bouncing to me. And I wonder when his dad was there and wasn't? There still are a lot of questions.

A stable environment is best for kids. To know that your parent or primary caregiver is always there is invaluable. It can't always happen, and that is why I made sure I inserted the fact that it takes an extra sacrifice.

We have no evidence that Ron started out with both his parents at all. He has Lester's last name. I have never found any proof Teresa was married to him. Is there such?

I agree a stable environment is best for children; but it would be foolish to believe that the stable environment is what every child has. In Ron's case, the primary caregiver was his grandmother. He left her home as a near adult. If there was any instability, it was because his mother kept trying to take back her role, ineffective though she may have been in such a role.

 

[newstome]

Ater so long following this case, its all starting to blur a little. Many months ago, L-Florida, I read about GGS raising Ron, did not know they had guardianship. What I find the most interesting about the latest information is that TN, (once again too busy her whole life) offered to pay Misty to babysit, knowing she was just back from a sex-drug weekend and hung over. Incredible. Crazy, but could there have been a plan earlier than we thought?

 

[Whisperer]

Where did rc graduate? what high school? Somebody reported he graduated?

.........can't see him graduating....sorry. His behavior just doesn't seem conducive to his ability to go through the process as a student in high school...nope...can't imagine it..

Ron appears to suffer from emotional problems and social problems.

 

[Donjeta]

This says Leesburg.

After Cummings graduated from high school in Leesburg, he and his girlfriend moved back to Putnam County. They went to his grandparents in Welaka, where his girlfriend became pregnant, but Cummings had changed, his grandmother said.

 

[Donjeta]

You know this is something I have always thought watching his interviews.:waitasec:



"He was a very, very intelligent person. He has a very high IQ," Neves said of her son.

If this is something he hears a lot from his mother it might have contributed to a sense of entitlement. I mean, if he can threaten people in stoplights, get arrested for possession, get arrested for fighting, marry drug users, get drawn into a life of crime by conniving females who cannot read, and do other very stupid things and have his mother excuse everything, because Ronald is so smart and he just has had some problems, it does not exactly encourage smart behavior or accountability.

 

[MADJGNLAW]

Starting out in the home with your parents, moving to your grandparents, and then back to parents is bouncing to me. And I wonder when his dad was there and wasn't? There still are a lot of questions.

A stable environment is best for kids. To know that your parent or primary caregiver is always there is invaluable. It can't always happen, and that is why I made sure I inserted the fact that it takes an extra sacrifice.

I to wonder about Ron's father. From the way the article reads his father was not around, but lives in Putnam. GGMS had Ron and Sister from the time Ron was 3 up until he was a teen and went high school. I also wonder why he did nothing regarding his younges son. Misty made claims that the mother was a drug user, left the child with anyone. I have not read anywhere where Ron has even claimed his son by Amber. I did read that Ambers mother is the one that cares for him though.
I also would like to know why Ron did not leave work to check on the children, especially knowing what Misty had been up to the days before. The article reads that Ron and Misty's relationship was Rocky that Monday night, he called her and could not get a hold of her and called her brother to check on her. What did the brother tell Ron?
Another question that has not been fully answered. TC just said that nobody was home from what is being reported and if that is what he related to Ron, why didn't Ron leave work to check on the children?
I know it was said that GGMS came to the MH around 7PM that night. Why didn't Ron send a member of his family to the home around the time frame where he could not get a hold of Misty? The fight over the phone began around 8:00 -8:30PM, after knowing something was up, why not leave work?
I also notice that GGMS claims Ron's behavior got worst when his grandfather past. In the article it says Ronald's most serious arrests started in 2001 after a man said he was threatened at a stoplight and told he would be killed. I have not been able to find any record of this incident though. Were the charges dropped? I wonder if Ron knew this man and what reason he had to threaten this man with death? Seems as if Ron makes a lot of death threats and that is scary.

A year since Haleigh Cummings vanished, Ronald and Misty lost their way long ago
"Snip" By Dana Treen updated Sunday, Feb. 7, 2010

http://jacksonville.com/news/metro/...gs_vanished_ronald_and_misty_lost_their_way_l


Ronald Cummings

Ronald who has fathered three children, was already a volatile man with a drug-related past when he met Misty, a defiant, barely educated. Ron had been arrested on drug charges but escaped prosecution. Anger and a sense of remoteness had marked Ronald for years, said GGMS.

Annette and Kirby Sykes had guardianship of Ronald and his sister beginning when Ronald was 3 years old. Ron was back with, Teresa by the time he was a young teenager. After Ronald graduated from high school in Leesburg, he and CS moved back to Putnam County to his grandparents in Welaka, CS became pregnant, but Ron had changed, Sykes said.

"He had a dirty mouth." "He was very disrespectful." Anger and a sense of remoteness had marked Ronald Cummings for years, said Sykes.

She attributed his ill manners to a bad crowd. But found that as her husband - the man Cummings called "Daddy" - worsened and died in 2002, her grandson changed, too.
Ronald looked up to his grandfather as "Daddy"

Ronald never saw much of his birth father who lives in Putnam County, Sykes said.

Ronald's most serious arrests started in 2001 he was arrested after a Crescent City man said he was threatened at a stoplight and told he would be killed.[/
Ron was charged with drug possession in 2002, 2004, both times after drugs were found with him in car and never prosecuted.

Ronald and Misty had been together for a short time when Haleigh disappeared. Misty baby-sat Ron's' youngest son, who lived with a former girlfriend. Misty warned Ron he needed to gain custody because the child's mother was a drug abuser who disappear and abandon the boy.

Their relationship was rocky on the Monday night that Haleigh went missing. Misty spent the weekend partying, she was home by the time Ronald went to work Monday evening. Ronald was angry, repeatedly called her phone then called her brother that night, demanding to know where she was when he couldn't get her on the phone.

 

[doobiedoo52]

We have no evidence that Ron started out with both his parents at all. He has Lester's last name. I have never found any proof Teresa was married to him. Is there such?

I agree a stable environment is best for children; but it would be foolish to believe that the stable environment is what every child has. In Ron's case, the primary caregiver was his grandmother. He left her home as a near adult. If there was any instability, it was because his mother kept trying to take back her role, ineffective though she may have been in such a role.

Teresa Ann Squires Cummings Neves
Married Jack Lester Cummings 22 Jul 1977 Putnam County
Approx. 17 yrs old when married.

 

[passionflower]

Who would give up their children for a boyfriend? Her children were young. Ronald was 3. How old was Crystal, 5 or 6? She didn't get along with him?
Give me a break.

unfortunatly, allot of women think more of the new men in their life than their children from a former man...............I see it everyday.........