A year since Haleigh vanished (psych profiles of those who surrounded Haleigh)

[Emeralgem]

Ididn't get the impression that she was setting the stage to blame Misty. I got the impression that she was trying to explain Ron's situation & what led HIM to be involved. There seemed to be some anger directed @ Teresa, (by basically saying that he didn't change until SHE got a hold of him}, & a lot of regrets. I think GGS blames Misty for creating the atmosphere but to me, she seems to accept that Ron was involved.

BBM.. Thats ok you didn't view it the same as I did. Guess we will have to wait and see..
Truth be known, I suspect ALL these people have unresolved issues of anger with one another....And have had theses issues festering for decades, even generations.
And to blame Misty for creating the atmosphere, so to speak, instead of focusing on how Ron chose to react to a situation is what allows dysfunctionalism to breed within the family system....That indicates to me she is making excuses for Ron's behavior. JMO

 

[dodie20]

BBM.. Thats ok you didn't view it the same as I did. Guess we will have to wait and see..
Truth be known, I suspect ALL these people have unresolved issues of anger with one another....And have had theses issues festering for decades, even generations.
And to blame Misty for creating the atmosphere, so to speak, instead of focusing on how Ron chose to react to a situation is what allows dysfunctionalism to breed within the family system....That indicates to me she is making excuses for Ron's behavior. JMO

You're right. But I think this might be the closest thing we ever get to an admittance from any of them & it kind of jumped out @ me. She just seemed to have her defenses down. But then again, I may have misinterpreted it because I want somebody in that family to take some responsibility, so bad.

 

[MADJGNLAW]

I really really think that Ron's main & almost only focus was Misty. Why don't they admit this? GGS alluded to it when she admitted to being mad about Ron taking her back. I think Misty's party weekend & Ron's subsequent anger & jealousy played a much bigger role than anybody wants to own up to.

If Ron's main focus was Misty, then that is pretty sad and pathetic. Because his Main Focus Should Of Been On His Children. Regardless of the situation, the children should of been his main focus, before Haleigh went missing and after.
I feel that the articles that were released today gave us some insight on some of the family members, and showed what Ron's priorities are.
It's sad that the GGMS was mad at Misty for what ever she did, yet did nothing to get the children out of that environment, went to the home that night knowing the problems with the family as well as TN and let Misty care for the children.
I am not saying that Misty is not to blame, I am saying that the Custodial Guardian/The Father should of known better than to leave a 5 yr old and 3 yr old child in the care of Misty. They all should of known better and chose to do nothing.
Especially after what she had just done the day/ weekend prior.
That will never make sense to me. Why? Why did they even allow her near the children? It is sad enough that they had to be in such a dysfunctional family.
Just heart breaking!

 

[Emeralgem]

I really really think that Ron's main & almost only focus was Misty. Why don't they admit this? GGS alluded to it when she admitted to being mad about Ron taking her back. I think Misty's party weekend & Ron's subsequent anger & jealousy played a much bigger role than anybody wants to own up to.

IMHO they didn't come forward and admit anything because they have been covering for Ron C for a year.. ALL TN and GGMS are doing right now is back peddling trying to keep from going over the falls...Too late now, they should have never climbed in that Ron boat...JMO

 

[Quiche]

I've been waiting a year for these articles, finally, an examination of facts rather than skewed interviews with agenda laden individuals.

I think the tides have turned because Jr. is now with his maternal family. The paternal grandparents are squirming and posturing for the privilege of having any access to him at all. Unfortunately for TN and GGS, a few legal problems (accessory, aiding and abetting, and obstruction of justice come to mind) may prevent their ongoing relationship with Butterbean ... even if Crystal found it within her heart to treat them with much more kindness than they ever proffered her.

This is karma folks, take a snapshot. jmo


Thank you all for a wonderful morning's reading!

 

[LFlorida]

We have known all along that GGS and her husband raised RC and his sister. It has also been at times stated somewhere that there was a bit of a rocky relatationship between TN and her Mother, GGS. I would think it would be because Ron considered GGS his Mom. I am sure GGS did not keep quiet and gave her daughter many pieces of her mind while TN was too busy for over 10 years to parent her children. I believe Ron and Crystal probably felt the same feelings of abandonment in common and then became the parents of Ron jr and Haleigh.
I do think GGS has had a very hard life. Does anyone know her age? I don't know if she knows what happened to Haleigh. What I do know is that she steps up to the plate and takes charge when there is no one responsible in sight. She took care of her husband with Alzheimer's which is one of the most devistating diseases out there for the family to see the rapid mental decline. The 24 hr care of one of these patients for several years is rare by a family because it is constant and more than one or several family members in shifts can take. One caregiver would quickly have their own mental decline due to no sleep and the body in 24 hr alert mode. She is one tough lady, and for that I commend her.

What?! I didn't know that we knew all along that Annette raised Ron.

Annette is 65 yrs old per the article in The Gainesville Sun.

FWIW - I do not envy anyone who has had to care for (or even watch) a loved one suffering through Alzheimer's.

Today's news has been enlightening... and very puzzling. jmo

 

[Dr.Fessel]

If Ron's main focus was Misty, then that is pretty sad and pathetic. Because his Main Focus Should Of Been On His Children. Regardless of the situation, the children should of been his main focus, before Haleigh went missing and after.
I feel that the articles that were released today gave us some insight on some of the family members, and showed what Ron's priorities are.
It's sad that the GGMS was mad at Misty for what ever she did, yet did nothing to get the children out of that environment, went to the home that night knowing the problems with the family as well as TN and let Misty care for the children.
I am not saying that Misty is not to blame, I am saying that the Custodial Guardian/The Father should of known better than to leave a 5 yr old and 3 yr old child in the care of Misty. They all should of known better and chose to do nothing.
Especially after what she had just done the day/ weekend prior.
That will never make sense to me. Why? Why did they even allow her near the children? It is sad enough that they had to be in such a dysfunctional family.
Just heart breaking!

I bet I know why. Misty was probably nicer to Haleigh then Ron as far as they knew. I bet you anything they witnessed Haleigh getting backhands from Ron.

 

[dodie20]

If Ron's main focus was Misty, then that is pretty sad and pathetic. Because his Main Focus Should Of Been On His Children. Regardless of the situation, the children should of been his main focus, before Haleigh went missing and after.
I feel that the articles that were released today gave us some insight on some of the family members, and showed what Ron's priorities are.
It's sad that the GGMS was mad at Misty for what ever she did, yet did nothing to get the children out of that environment, went to the home that night knowing the problems with the family as well as TN and let Misty care for the children.
I am not saying that Misty is not to blame, I am saying that the Custodial Guardian/The Father should of known better than to leave a 5 yr old and 3 yr old child in the care of Misty. They all should of known better and chose to do nothing.
Especially after what she had just done the day/ weekend prior.
That will never make sense to me. Why? Why did they even allow her near the children? It is sad enough that they had to be in such a dysfunctional family.
Just heart breaking!

Yes, & Misty reportedly left that weekend because Ron had beaten her up. Why blame her & be mad that Ron had taken her back? Where was their sympathy for her? I guess that their sympathies start & end with Ron. They are unwilling to see the big picture. But he is Annette's grandson & blood is thicker than water & all of that. The background article does @ least give some insight on why he moved back in with Annette. That was home. & I can only guess from his actions, but it seems that he realized that moving out was a collossal mistake & he couldn't get back fast enough. But, he & Misty couldn't stay away from each other & got themselves in an even bigger mess.

 

[Concerned Papa]

I don't know much about psych profiles or body language, but I know liars doing damage control when I see them. GGM waiting 9 days to mention going by the trailer that evening is one of the biggest red flags that has been raised in this case for me. This video is her "That's A Crock" interview. Watch and listen to what she says about Misty Croslin beginning at the 3:50 mark:

http://www.wftv.com/video/18748628/index.html

She was singing Misty's praises 9 days after Haleigh disappeared. Now, a year later, we find out why she was really there that night:

On Feb. 9, the night after Croslin returned to Cummings' mobile home from the weekend of partying, Sykes dropped by. She said she was upset that Croslin had gone off and left her grandson without anyone to watch over the two kids.

"I was mad because Ronald let her come back," she said. "But it's his house. There wasn't nothing I could do about it other than be mad."

http://jacksonville.com/news/metro/...gs_vanished_ronald_and_misty_lost_their_way_l

She was mad......

When this is all over, I hope that every single member of that little girl's family who has lied or misrepresented the truth and thereby misdirected LE's investigation, PAYS a price.

 

[Dr.Fessel]

Why did Sykes even bring up the anger issue. I have a feeling she knows something is getting ready to break.

 

[dodie20]

If Ron's main focus was Misty, then that is pretty sad and pathetic. Because his Main Focus Should Of Been On His Children. Regardless of the situation, the children should of been his main focus, before Haleigh went missing and after.
I feel that the articles that were released today gave us some insight on some of the family members, and showed what Ron's priorities are.
It's sad that the GGMS was mad at Misty for what ever she did, yet did nothing to get the children out of that environment, went to the home that night knowing the problems with the family as well as TN and let Misty care for the children.
I am not saying that Misty is not to blame, I am saying that the Custodial Guardian/The Father should of known better than to leave a 5 yr old and 3 yr old child in the care of Misty. They all should of known better and chose to do nothing.
Especially after what she had just done the day/ weekend prior.
That will never make sense to me. Why? Why did they even allow her near the children? It is sad enough that they had to be in such a dysfunctional family.
Just heart breaking!

His main focus should've been his children, but I think no matter what anybody's theory is regarding Haleigh, they can all agree that that wasn't the case. I think they looked the other way because Ron wanted her there. As a matter of fact, I think Teresa tried intervene on Ron's behalf, to get her back.

 

[doobiedoo52]

I would trust what GGS says over TN any day. I quite honestly think that RC never relayed a lot of his relationship with Misty to TN. GGS probably knew more than her. He was more apt to confide in her than his own mother since she raised him. I also think TN rarely babysat the grandkids. She didn't raise her own and I wouldn't be surprised if she begged off on watching the grandkids as well. If RC was wanting TN to watch them that Monday night, it sounds like she went behind his back and called Misty and begged.
Maybe that's why we haven't heard any jailhouse call to TN either. Thanks for the link to the article BTW.

 

[Donjeta]

There might have been pragmatic reasons for keeping Misty around. What were his other daycare options? If there were no other girlfriends standing in line waiting to be allowed to take care of Ron's children 24/7 and none of his relatives were willing to shoulder the responsibility, Ron would have had to pay for a sitter, stop working or give the children to Crystal.

 

[SoSueMe]

In Ron's jailhouse call to GGMS, doesn't he at first call her "mom" and change it? Or maybe it's when he's talking about mailing the envelope? I really don't want to listen to that underwear conversation again. Regardless, onward...

I don't see anything in this article that we didn't already know. We've already put most of this information together. It's just that now it's in black and white from a reputable source.

Interesting that GGMS was angry with Misty that night. I just wonder what she might have said to Misty when she was on her laundry run. If I recall, when looking at past criminal records, there seemed to be charges of custodial interference on several family members. For anyone to be angry at Misty for leaving because it left Ron without a babysitter is appalling to me.

As far as Ron's high IQ, shall we start with the first jailhouse interview with Dana Treen?

 

[Dr.Fessel]

I don't know much about psych profiles or body language, but I know liars doing damage control when I see them. GGM waiting 9 days to mention going by the trailer that evening is one of the biggest red flags that has been raised in this case for me. This video is her "That's A Crock" interview. Watch and listen to what she says about Misty Croslin beginning at the 3:50 mark:

http://www.wftv.com/video/18748628/index.html

She was singing Misty's praises 9 days after Haleigh disappeared. Now, a year later, we find out why she was really there that night:



She was mad......

When this is all over, I hope that every single member of that little girl's family who has lied or misrepresented the truth and thereby misdirected LE's investigation, PAYS a price.

I agree she is a Liar.

Now, we need to figure out when she lied.

Was it back then when she was singing Mistys praises?

Or is it now when she says she is was so mad?

 

[Dr.Fessel]

"I was mad because Ronald let her come back," she said. "But it's his house. There wasn't nothing I could do about it other than be mad."


She is still distancing herself from the truth here. She says house, not home and not what is really meant, "it's his kids".

I don't think she was worried about his trailer.

 

[LFlorida]

If Misty can't read, how does she use the computer & myspace? I doubt she reads above a 3rd or 4th grade level, but I think she can read some. I can't help but wonder how miserable a kid's life must be, to hate school @ that age. If for no other reason, a 12 year old, wants to be around other kids & make friends.

You bring up an excellent point here about the computer & myspace, dodie. Has anybody referenced Misty being on the internet?

 

[Searchfortruth]

I have to wonder, why all these admissions now ? I get the feeling that something is happening behind the scenes here.

I wonder why TN didn't raise her son ? I can guarantee that Ron has much resentment about that, based on personal experience. He may try to cover it up by calling her "mother" and sometimes even acting like she's his mother, but deep down inside he doesn't really feel that way.

 

[debs]

All I know is I asked a former police officer why a man intent on getting himself in trouble would tattoo his mother's first name on his chest, and his answer was: "Because daddy was never there in his life and mommy always loved him, no matter what he did."

 

[Dr.Fessel]

You bring up an excellent point here about the computer & myspace, dodie. Has anybody referenced Misty being on the internet?

I bet Misty had help and I imagine it was Chelsea.

Here is a message my grandaughter on yahoo just sent me after i sent her one saying i love you. She is in first grade.

cood. I toc to you latr.