Abc Cancels Roseanne After Racist Tweets

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Big Mouth Strikes Again.................morrissey
 
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I am so over all the sensitivity. Everyone is offended over everything.

Roseanne and Valerie are both obnoxious people.

Trump gets called an orangutan by a comedian on tv and that comedian keeps his show. No outrage, no cancellation, no public outcry, no apology. Everyone laughs, repeats it and life goes on.

Why is it bad if a black person is compared to an ape, but just fine and dandy if the same is done to a white person? Is there a racial component in apeness? I don't think so. It seems much ado about nothing. The way I see it, if something is bad, it is bad across the board. If one is okay with the orangutan comments, one can't object to the ape comment. It is disingenuous. But, that is my opinion. I believe in equal outrage for equal offenses.

I could not care less about the show being canceled or the people on the set losing their jobs. I really do not care what happens to anyone in Hollywood. They are supposed to entertain us and have fallen short of that mission.

Besides, I haven't watched ABC in 20 years, so no loss there.

In the big scheme of life who, other than those who worked on the show, cares about any of this? It is all meaningless dribble.

My opinion.
 
  • #84
I am so over all the sensitivity. Everyone is offended over everything.

Roseanne and Valerie are both obnoxious people.

Trump gets called an orangutan by a comedian on tv and that comedian keeps his show. No outrage, no cancellation, no public outcry, no apology. Everyone laughs, repeats it and life goes on.

Why is it bad if a black person is compared to an ape, but just fine and dandy if the same is done to a white person? Is there a racial component in apeness? I don't think so. It seems much ado about nothing. The way I see it, if something is bad, it is bad across the board. If one is okay with the orangutan comments, one can't object to the ape comment. It is disingenuous. But, that is my opinion. I believe in equal outrage for equal offenses.

I could not care less about the show being canceled or the people on the set losing their jobs. I really do not care what happens to anyone in Hollywood. They are supposed to entertain us and have fallen short of that mission.

Besides, I haven't watched ABC in 20 years, so no loss there.

In the big scheme of life who, other than those who worked on the show, cares about any of this? It is all meaningless dribble.

My opinion.

People care. And calling a white person an animal does not have the same connotation as calling a race of people who were once seen as unevolved and worked and bred and sold as animals.
 
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People care. And calling a white person an animal does not have the same connotation as calling a race of people who were once seen as unevolved and worked and bred and sold as animals.

And lychings and being shot and on and on and on.

Easy for a white person to have to be so over the sensitivity because we do not have to live it everyday.
 
  • #86
People care. And calling a white person an animal does not have the same connotation as calling a race of people who were once seen as unevolved and worked and bred and sold as animals.

History will teach you that white northern Europeans were sold as slaves to all corners of the globe. They too were treated as less than human beings and as animals. In fact, many of them were sold into slavery here in the US but mostly sold into the middle east.

No one called a whole race of people a name.

I am of the opinion that this whole thing is over reaction and that people are simply too easily offended over what someone they do not know said about someone else they do not know. Kinda ridiculous.
 
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And lychings and being shot and on and on and on.

Easy for a white person to have to be so over the sensitivity because we do not have to live it everyday.

Living in the past is pointless. Just my opinion.
 
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Yes, you read correctly.

Because Rosanne tweeted something so inappropriate that it offended everyone ABC has canceled her show.

BUT, I will bet you anything ABC will bring it back. Do you really think a corporation like ABC would lose a cash cow like Roseann? No way.

From CNN
ABC cancels 'Roseanne' after star's racist Twitter rant
"In one of the tweets, she wrote, "Muslim brotherhood & planet of the apes had a baby=vj."

Barr was responding to a comment about Valerie Jarrett, a top former aide to President Obama. She replied to CNN reporter Andrew Kaczynski and said it was "a joke."
Seriously Tricia? I sometimes question where you are taking your brand - you do know you are a brand right? I've had such questions for sometime now.

Hitching ones wagon requires much thought, reflection and long term vision.

You want to be a crime forum right? So why get on board with RB et al yet close down other threads with a political tone? I don't the brand.

Jmo.
 
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History will teach you that white northern Europeans were sold as slaves to all corners of the globe. They too were treated as less than human beings and as animals. In fact, many of them were sold into slavery here in the US but mostly sold into the middle east.

No one called a whole race of people a name.

I am of the opinion that this whole thing is over reaction and that people are simply too easily offended over what someone they do not know said about someone else they do not know. Kinda ridiculous.

Indentured servants were not slaves.
 
  • #91
We all know that people can tweet/write/say ridiculous things at all hours. I am weary of the tit-for-tat of unacceptable behavior (prior or others) excusing new unacceptable behavior. But, I don't want to get lulled into a political conversation that goes nowhere and offends many on either side. There are too many in power positions or bully pulpit positions who lack decorum, grace and civility. I hope this thread doesn't go down that path inadvertently or purposefully.

Roseanne stating Ambien tweeting as her excuse and calling out her cast mates for "throwing her under the bus" is laughable. As a society, we long ago stopped accepting that a person was drunk so beating their partner was unfortunate but devoid of ramifications. When a person is under the influence and driving while killing/maiming people, we hold them to account. She chose to take the medication. She chose to Tweet. She is responsible.

To accuse those who spoke out because they believed she was wrong for throwing her under the bus is disgraceful. Whether she thinks her words were harmful or racist or not, she put herself in the path of "A" bus. All of her coworkers were placed in a position to respond or not by her actions, not their own. They chose to speak and they have every right to do so. If she didn't want them tweeting about her words, she should have stayed off Twitter and slept.

At the end of the day, ABC is decision maker on where they draw the line on their brand. I think all owners of media, webpages, businesses get that say. I may agree or not but until I have my own brand...
 
  • #92
Yes, a couple hundred peeps. And the irony is she had a platform to represent different points of views. On a major network! An incredibly popular show.

I didn't see it but read about it, but I'm wondering if the last show dealing with perceptions of Muslim neighbors "as terrorists" got some blowback?

The show was renewed but was slated for more of a focus on family. Maybe that ticked Roseanne off.? -She's involved in the writing. I imagine she drove the writers crazy -- Imo.

I am not a sitcom person, but I watched the first episode and thought the character exchange of her sister arriving decked out in the pink "nasty woman" tee shirt and pussy hat for a visit WAS hilarious. And the levity was refreshing.

John Goodman, he was just a perfect comedic partner. I especially feel for him because he is comedy gold.

Roseanne had a great original cast acting with her. Something truly unique. And she just threw everyone overboard for her own psycho-meltdown. What a damn shame.

The one thing I remember filtering down from the 90's era, was her "Domestic Goddess". --That was awesome.

Unfortunately, I think getting a personal congratulations from the president went to her head. And she felt herself more important than the rest. And it all falls apart from there. Especially on Twitter.

The Muslim neighbor thing was funny. It showcased the silliness, actually, of stereotyping people. She ended up defending the neighbor in the market.
 
  • #93
R now thinks her co stars threw her under the bus. Wow. What happened to ppl just apologizing for being wrong and ask for forgiveness but instead its some one else's fault and the individual who start the crap is the victim. SMH

Roseanne Barr Responds to Costars After Show Cancellation: 'You Throw Me Under the Bus'

That's where the crazy factor comes in for me. Her tweets are contradictory in succession. Like she says one thing and immediately says the opposite right after.
 
  • #94
I am so over all the sensitivity. Everyone is offended over everything.

Roseanne and Valerie are both obnoxious people.

Trump gets called an orangutan by a comedian on tv and that comedian keeps his show. No outrage, no cancellation, no public outcry, no apology. Everyone laughs, repeats it and life goes on.

Why is it bad if a black person is compared to an ape, but just fine and dandy if the same is done to a white person? Is there a racial component in apeness? I don't think so. It seems much ado about nothing. The way I see it, if something is bad, it is bad across the board. If one is okay with the orangutan comments, one can't object to the ape comment. It is disingenuous. But, that is my opinion. I believe in equal outrage for equal offenses.

I could not care less about the show being canceled or the people on the set losing their jobs. I really do not care what happens to anyone in Hollywood. They are supposed to entertain us and have fallen short of that mission.

Besides, I haven't watched ABC in 20 years, so no loss there.

In the big scheme of life who, other than those who worked on the show, cares about any of this? It is all meaningless dribble.

My opinion.

There is a 400 year serious, racist history of comparing black people to apes and monkeys in order to make them less human and thus justify slavery and other forms of oppression. And this wasn't just inferences. Racist "experts" in medical and other professional fields promoted the idea that black people are subhuman and less evolved.

https://mla.hcommons.org/deposits/objects/hc:11480/datastreams/CONTENT/content?download=true

Comparing Black People To Monkeys Has A Long, Dark Simian History

For centuries the West has found it useful to compare black people to monkeys

Chinese Museum Pulls Exhibit Comparing Animals to Black People

This actually continues today via racist ideas that black people are inherently prone to dishonesty, criminality or violence. You will hear it in veiled comments from people describing black or brown people as "animals".

This disgusting comparison of black people to animals was anchored by an institutionalized system of racism. One that kept black people enslaved, then segregated and lynched and now shot dead in the street by LE.

I mean anti-racists actually had a saying, "You don't lynch a horse", to try to convince racists that they knew deep down that black people weren't actually animals.

There has been no systematic oppression of the white majority. White people arent followed in stores. They aren't arrested for not immediately buying a product in a business, they aren't routinely denied a job because of their accent or the sound of their name. They aren't consistently compared to primates.

People have long used animal comparisons to insult a specific person. But only racists have consistently used animal comparisons to dehumanize an entire group of people based on nothing more than their genetic heritage.

Thus, while other comparisons may be ugly or rude, historically consistent comparisons of an entire group of humans to one type of animal, is dangerous and disgusting.

Enough little black kids have had to endure being called monkeys because of you know what like this. But comparing Trump to an orangutan has no basis in racism or in a racist history and thus will not effect an entire group of people based on their ethnic heritage.

That's the difference, as plain as I can make it. I hope that makes sense.

Finally, only those with the privilege not had to endure the effects of this kind of oppression can say that people offended by this evil are being "too sensitive".

Racism is at the root of so much endless suffering of all kinds throught history and the world. One can never be too sensitive to evil.
 
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Her millions have been cut and she is worried.

I doubt if people who are Muslim enjoy being the topic of anything. I am sure children who are Muslim do not enjoy the focus.

What if the focus of a program was all about “you”.Denigrating then changing the opinion. I don’t think many would like something like that about ones self.

We have the hatred cauldron stirred so that people of color are terrified for their lives as well as LGBTQ as well. It is not entertaining.
 
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Her millions have been cut and she is worried.

I doubt if people who are Muslim enjoy being the topic of anything. I am sure children who are Muslim do not enjoy the focus.

What if the focus of a program was all about “you”.Denigrating then changing the opinion. I don’t think many would like something like that about ones self.

We have the hatred cauldron stirred so that people of color are terrified for their lives as well as LGBTQ as well. It is not entertaining.

I think the Arabic actors liked it and I believe many Muslim Americans would've appreciated the skit. It portrayed them as normal, every day Americans but who have to battle stupidity and prejudice in order to live a regular life, while it portrayed Roseanne as an idiot for her stupid assumptions.

It wasn't offensive.
 
  • #97
I think the Arabic actors liked it and I believe many Muslim Americans would've appreciated the skit. It portrayed them as normal, every day Americans but who have to battle stupidity and prejudice in order to live a regular life, while it portrayed Roseanne as an idiot for her stupid assumptions.

It wasn't offensive.

If it was supposed to be a teaching moment, she learned nothing from her own skit.
 
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Indentured servants were not slaves.
Read up. Read about the people sold to Islands in the Caribbean, Africa and the middle east. They came from Ireland and Scotland. Read about the 'indentured' servants who were never freed after being forcibly taken from their homes, forced onto ships and sold to the highest bidders. What is wrong with that picture? Oh, that's right, they came from Ireland and Scotland, so their slavery doesn't count. Got it.
 
  • #99
If a terrorist group and a movie had a baby. It is all to lame to take seriously.
 
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