Abc Cancels Roseanne After Racist Tweets

[gitana1]

Read up. Read about the people sold to Islands in the Caribbean, Africa and the middle east. They came from Ireland and Scotland. Read about the 'indentured' servants who were never freed after being forcibly taken from their homes, forced onto ships and sold to the highest bidders. What is wrong with that picture? Oh, that's right, they came from Ireland and Scotland, so their slavery doesn't count. Got it.

It very much counts. In fact, it was a part of a larger, systematic and pervasive institutionalized racism in this country.

"Irish need not apply." Do you know that Irish people were not considered "white" in America, by American society and institutions, until late in the 19th century?

But here's the thing. The racism against them that justified their mariginalization, discrimination, (like being denied housing and jobs and having their children placed in Protestant families against their will), it was brief and ended.

The same cannot be said for black people.

 

[gitana1]

If a terrorist group and a movie had a baby. It is all to lame to take seriously.

You have the privilege to not take it seriously.

 

[human]

I think the Arabic actors liked it and I believe many Muslim Americans would've appreciated the skit. It portrayed them as normal, every day Americans but who have to battle stupidity and prejudice in order to live a regular life, while it portrayed Roseanne as an idiot for her stupid assumptions.

It wasn't offensive.

I cannot see it where I live so I will trust your opinion.

 

[Oregonmama]

R has always acted like a freight train that was about to derail... I admit I liked the old R shows that talked about everyday family stuff we all dealt with BUT R could have played out her motive in private. Instead she chose the social media platform to get a boost in her personal ratings. Wrong move R, wrong move!

 

[amandabanana]

I honestly was surprised that ABC agreed to the reboot in the first place, especially knowing Roseanne Barr's controversial past. I actually liked the original show but I didn't care for the reboot because it just wasn't the same. I don't blame ABC for canceling the show after the latest tweets, it really was the right thing to do. I feel bad for the rest of the cast and crew who are now out of a job. It's too bad they couldn't continue the show without Roseanne.

 

[Fairy1]

It very much counts. In fact, it was a part of a larger, systematic and pervasive institutionalized racism in this country.

"Irish need not apply." Do you know that Irish people were not considered "white" in America, by American society and institutions, until late in the 19th century?

But here's the thing. The racism against them that justified their mariginalization, discrimination, (like being denied housing and jobs and having their children placed in Protestant families against their will), it was brief and ended.

The same cannot be said for black people.

The ACTUAL thing is that, given the right climate, any group of humans can be marginalized. ANY group that is labeled as one thing or another. That includes you and me and everyone else on the face of the earth.

Think about that people. Anyone who believes they are superior to others is subject to the same in reverse. Judge not lest ye be judged.

It's not really complicated. RB is a racist Jew. Let that just sink in for a moment.

Shame on her. How soon we forget, huh? And kudos to ABC for doing the right thing.

 

[Deleted member 158085]

I am so over all the sensitivity. Everyone is offended over everything.

Roseanne and Valerie are both obnoxious people.

Trump gets called an orangutan by a comedian on tv and that comedian keeps his show. No outrage, no cancellation, no public outcry, no apology. Everyone laughs, repeats it and life goes on.

Why is it bad if a black person is compared to an ape, but just fine and dandy if the same is done to a white person? Is there a racial component in apeness? I don't think so. It seems much ado about nothing. The way I see it, if something is bad, it is bad across the board. If one is okay with the orangutan comments, one can't object to the ape comment. It is disingenuous. But, that is my opinion. I believe in equal outrage for equal offenses.

I could not care less about the show being canceled or the people on the set losing their jobs. I really do not care what happens to anyone in Hollywood. They are supposed to entertain us and have fallen short of that mission.

Besides, I haven't watched ABC in 20 years, so no loss there.

In the big scheme of life who, other than those who worked on the show, cares about any of this? It is all meaningless dribble.

My opinion.

Please read up on the history of the racist ape trope. It is absolutely not the same to use that comparison to a white person.
The Coon Caricature: Blacks as Monkeys

 

[Deleted member 158085]

Seriously Tricia? I sometimes question where you are taking your brand - you do know you are a brand right? I've had such questions for sometime now.

Hitching ones wagon requires much thought, reflection and long term vision.

You want to be a crime forum right? So why get on board with RB et al yet close down other threads with a political tone? I don't the brand.

Jmo.

Have you had this complaint about the entire celebrity news forum on WS all along, or only just now because of the topic?

 

[gregjrichards]

There is talk of a spin off being in the works without RB it will be interesting to see if it is successful.

 

[Fairy1]

I am so over all the sensitivity. Everyone is offended over everything.

Roseanne and Valerie are both obnoxious people.

Trump gets called an orangutan by a comedian on tv and that comedian keeps his show. No outrage, no cancellation, no public outcry, no apology. Everyone laughs, repeats it and life goes on.

Why is it bad if a black person is compared to an ape, but just fine and dandy if the same is done to a white person? Is there a racial component in apeness? I don't think so. It seems much ado about nothing. The way I see it, if something is bad, it is bad across the board. If one is okay with the orangutan comments, one can't object to the ape comment. It is disingenuous. But, that is my opinion. I believe in equal outrage for equal offenses.

I could not care less about the show being canceled or the people on the set losing their jobs. I really do not care what happens to anyone in Hollywood. They are supposed to entertain us and have fallen short of that mission.

Besides, I haven't watched ABC in 20 years, so no loss there.

In the big scheme of life who, other than those who worked on the show, cares about any of this? It is all meaningless dribble.

My opinion.

IMO, we all need to be "sensitive" to racism. Sorry if that's a challenge for anyone.

And if you want to throw down in favor of racism, at the very least, please compare apples to apples.

tRump is an old white man. The same as have always been in power. Always. Think about the destruction over our history.

Roseannne isn't really the problem. She is a product of the problem. As are so many others.

 

[gregjrichards]

Seriously Tricia? I sometimes question where you are taking your brand - you do know you are a brand right? I've had such questions for sometime now.

Hitching ones wagon requires much thought, reflection and long term vision.

You want to be a crime forum right? So why get on board with RB et al yet close down other threads with a political tone? I don't the brand.

Jmo.

Personally I think it is a positive we have non crime related sections of the forum. The cases and tragic news here can be heartbreaking and leave you feeling utterly devastated it is good to have other parts of the forum to get some respite for a short while.

 

[Fairy1]

Personally I think it is a positive we have non crime related sections of the forum. The cases and tragic news here can be heartbreaking and leave you feeling utterly devastated it is good to have other parts of the forum to get some respite for a short while.

So true. And we really shouldn't behave as though what's happening to all of us in the US isn't really happening. It actually is happening.

Respite? Nope.

 

[kimlynn]

Seriously Tricia? I sometimes question where you are taking your brand - you do know you are a brand right? I've had such questions for sometime now.

Hitching ones wagon requires much thought, reflection and long term vision.

You want to be a crime forum right? So why get on board with RB et al yet close down other threads with a political tone? I don't the brand.

Jmo.

Not only a political tone but a racial tone. I recall several months ago my public thrashing for a thread I started which had a lot of thoughtful replies much as this one does.
We were asked is this what we really care about with all the missing children and mods were advised to shut down all other threads that were anything like the one I had started.
My response if I would have had the time before it was shut down would be to say yes I do care about racial issues as well as lost and abused children.
Having 'said' that... I understand that this isn't my forum and I have zero say in what goes on here.
I am glad that we can have this discussion regarding RB

 

[gregjrichards]

So true. And we really shouldn't behave as though what's happening to all of us in the US isn't really happening. It actually is happening.

Respite? Nope.

Respite was not a good choice of word on my part. I just meant that I suffer from depression and can feel desperately sad reading about horrific child abuse, families desperately looking for their loved ones or other cases where a loved one has been murdered that sometimes I need a short break. I’m glad there are parts of the forum that are not crime related we can go to if we choose to and I feel it creates a greater sense of online community.

 

[Jennifer17]

Not only a political tone but a racial tone. I recall several months ago my public thrashing for a thread I started which had a lot of thoughtful replies much as this one does.
We were asked is this what we really care about with all the missing children and mods were advised to shut down all other threads that were anything like the one I had started.
My response if I would have had the time before it was shut down would be to say yes I do care about racial issues as well as lost and abused children.
Having 'said' that... I understand that this isn't my forum and I have zero say in what goes on here.
I am glad that we can have this discussion regarding RB

I don't understand why objecting to a clearly racist tweet is political.

 

[Fairy1]

Not only a political tone but a racial tone. I recall several months ago my public thrashing for a thread I started which had a lot of thoughtful replies much as this one does.
We were asked is this what we really care about with all the missing children and mods were advised to shut down all other threads that were anything like the one I had started.
My response if I would have had the time before it was shut down would be to say yes I do care about racial issues as well as lost and abused children.
Having 'said' that... I understand that this isn't my forum and I have zero say in what goes on here.
I am glad that we can have this discussion regarding RB

IMO, it's a travesty to believe that politics are not front and center in the USA right now.

Politics, racism, extremism, fanaticism, authoritarianism, fascism. Call it what you will, but it is here in the good ole USA and it is going to ruin us all, IMO.

IMO, Roseanne Barr is nothing more than a representative of those who seek to divide us. Why should she have a show on TV? Why should she be given a voice that will further divide America?

 

[Jennifer17]

IMO, it's a travesty to believe that politics are not front and center in the USA right now.

Politics, racism, extremism, fanaticism, authoritarianism, fascism. Call it what you will, but it is here in the good ole USA and it is going to ruin us all, IMO.

IMO, Roseanne Barr is nothing more than a representative of those who seek to divide us. Why should she have a show on TV? Why should she be given a voice that will further divide America?

It does seem to me that that is the case, but why?
People turning themselves inside out to prove that calling an African American an ape is not racist.
Why should decency be political?

 

[gitana1]

IMO, we all need to be "sensitive" to racism. Sorry if that's a challenge for anyone.

And if you want to throw down in favor of racism, at the very least, please compare apples to apples.

tRump is an old white man. The same as have always been in power. Always. Think about the destruction over our history.

Roseannne isn't really the problem. She is a product of the problem. As are so many others.

Great post.

 

[Jennifer17]

And how awful it is for that baby, who has been shown racism at the very first time it draws breath. This child will come to know the racism that was directed toward it when he/she was a newborn.
The people who are defending this racism against an innocent child are the very same people who are against abortion, because of the innocent lives, yet are quite comfortable about racist statements to one 'innocent life' when it is born.

 

[Tricia]

Seriously Tricia? I sometimes question where you are taking your brand - you do know you are a brand right? I've had such questions for sometime now.

Hitching ones wagon requires much thought, reflection and long term vision.

You want to be a crime forum right? So why get on board with RB et al yet close down other threads with a political tone? I don't the brand.

Jmo.

I am not on board at all with RB. I thought it was disgusting what she tweeted and I applaud ABC for canceling the show. My cynical side led me to think that this might be some big stunt and they would take RB back in the end. I was wrong.
You don't need to be telling me my "brand". I know what it is. I also know that we do need a break at times from the true crime cases so we can discuss the current hot topics going on in our world.

As far as the political forum I have no idea what you mean. I can tell you we gave it a shot and within minutes of it opening people were losing their minds and calling each other names. We did not have the mod power to keep up with the hysterics.